Well b back 3,203 Posted July 10, 2020 We all said our thread wouldn’t get political, but now I reckon we need to hope Oxfords or London’s vaccines work. Or of course does this mean they have inside info that tells them it’s looking good. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/10/uk-has-opted-out-of-eu-coronavirus-vaccine-programme-sources-say 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 352 Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Well b back said: We all said our thread wouldn’t get political, but now I reckon we need to hope Oxfords or London’s vaccines work. Or of course does this mean they have inside info that tells them it’s looking good. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/10/uk-has-opted-out-of-eu-coronavirus-vaccine-programme-sources-say I thought I remembered that the EU had provisionally purchased doses of Oxford's vaccine........maybe I am imagining it, too much information going round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Well b back said: We all said our thread wouldn’t get political, but now I reckon we need to hope Oxfords or London’s vaccines work. Or of course does this mean they have inside info that tells them it’s looking good. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/10/uk-has-opted-out-of-eu-coronavirus-vaccine-programme-sources-say Vaccines are notoriously political Well b back! You can't escape (though I know you wanted to keep this thread 'pure' as possible). I was once told that even for song writers, there are only two subjects that can be written about (ignoring the nonsense variety & even that is arguable): politics or love! It's always amused me. On topic, there seems a lot of positive vibes about or is this just a form of mis-placed desperation/ hope? I sense it's more an expectation of efficacy. In normal times, such investment would be based on surety not merely high confidence levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 10, 2020 Most things in life are political one way or another, we were just trying to keep the party politics, which is a repetitive and often sterile, sometimes nasty with one or two, debate, off at least this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted July 10, 2020 Well, I don't believe I've taken it there VW with my post, just a wry observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,764 Posted July 10, 2020 I was very tempted.😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, sonyc said: Well, I don't believe I've taken it there VW with my post, just a wry observation. Indeed not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 11, 2020 And again the bbc catch up on yesterday’s news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53361906 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 11, 2020 I can’t find the link now but I saw the ITV people ( is it Eamon and his partner ) dish out unopposed some totally duff information to the U.K. public. They said how 1 day they were given the news that the Oxford vaccine could work the next they were told of the monkey trial where every monkey caught it so the next day the hope was dashed and they knew the Oxford vaccine wouldn’t work. Those who follow this thread know that that is just misinformation. We know it could be the doses and how they were given to the monkies, We know it could have been the amount of vaccine each one was given, but most importantly we also know not one of the monkeys given the vaccine developed lung problems, making it a total success. Why is a national news allowed to report misleading facts I wonder ? Without even an attempt to put together the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 11, 2020 Today’s good and promising news. There are reports that enough people on the Oxford trial have caught the virus for it to go to the assessment stage as planned. If true let’s all pray that a high percentage of them were given the false vaccine and or nobody taking the vaccine developed the lung problems. I suspect the U.K. as always will catch up with this story in the coming weeks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 11, 2020 One last bit of news from today ( and as usual don’t make this political ) Groups such as Jenner are scathing about the U.K. not joining the EU vaccine fund, saying that if their vaccine does not work a decision motivated by Brexit will leave us out in the cold. l hope that’s not Jenner suggesting problems with their vaccine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 826 Posted July 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Well b back said: Today’s good and promising news. There are reports that enough people on the Oxford trial have caught the virus for it to go to the assessment stage as planned. If true let’s all pray that a high percentage of them were given the false vaccine and or nobody taking the vaccine developed the lung problems. I suspect the U.K. as always will catch up with this story in the coming weeks. Its getting real now. ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted July 12, 2020 Thought this was a decent read, meandering a little but making interesting reading....Sharing in that vein. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/3/21258841/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-testing-usa-china-moderna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted July 12, 2020 4 hours ago, sonyc said: Thought this was a decent read, meandering a little but making interesting reading....Sharing in that vein. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/3/21258841/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-testing-usa-china-moderna sounds pretty bleak sadly 😔 seems we are stuck with the "new normal" for years! Hopefully there is no reason for a "2nd wave" and we can at least get to a scenario where we have low to no transmission in this country and it burns out without the need for a widespread vaccine. The way I see it is that we can hopefully get its potency and contagiousness down to a level more like seasonal flu and then we can bring more normality back. It really doesn't look great for mass gatherings in the near future though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 13, 2020 If oxford fails Imperial College is looking promising. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-12/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-rolled-out-in-first-half-of-next-year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 13, 2020 Have Russia found a Vaccine - seems so - will they let the world have it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 13, 2020 More reports that Russia have solved it. The U.K. news will pick up on it soon - maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 14, 2020 Can’t guarantee this will work but there is going to be updates live today at around 3 pm on the Oxford vaccine. Apparently it will be live on this site s://oxfordbrc.nihr.ac.uk/brc-event/vaccines-for-the-control-of-covid-19/… @JennerInstitute @OxfordVacGroup @OUHospitals @OxfordMedSci 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 14, 2020 For those that didn’t get a chance to watch, the 1st phase results will be out in the next few days. Hewouldnt commit on results but said AstraZeneca are developing billions of doses. He also hinted it will be 2 doses of the vaccine not one. I really cannot believe the U.K. news / papers are not picking up on all this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 15, 2020 https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-15/positive-news-is-coming-on-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-writes-robert-peston 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 For those reading this thread regular you will understand the term human challenge and it’s significance to Covid 19 vaccine development. Has it moved a step closer ? 100 top people including our very own Oxford director Adrian Hill have signed a letter asking for this to happen now. Interestingly they are now all members of the group ‘ One Day Sooner ‘ which again we know all about. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53426367 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Van wink said: https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-15/positive-news-is-coming-on-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-writes-robert-peston Maybe he took the news from our thread lol. Again this is a British Company yet the reports were first coming from USA, China and others. I wonder if they will start mentioning soon what we know on this thread that it’s 2 doses not 1 that gives you the protection, and Oxford will stop you dieing not catching it ?. I reckon they know it works now as Adrian Hill has now asked for Human Challenge ( see the link I have added today ). i predict we are nearly there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) On 15/07/2020 at 00:32, Well b back said: For those that didn’t get a chance to watch, the 1st phase results will be out in the next few days. Hewouldnt commit on results but said AstraZeneca are developing billions of doses. He also hinted it will be 2 doses of the vaccine not one. I really cannot believe the U.K. news / papers are not picking up on all this. Telegraph has it today, picking up on T cells as has been referred to earlier. Good stuff. Edited July 16, 2020 by Van wink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Van wink said: Telegraph has it today, picking up on T cells as has been referred to earlier. Good stuff. Yep we are close. Astrazenica are surging on the stock markets. It will be funny when they state it’s 2 doses as we have known that on this thread for weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 Jenner is reporting Astra Zeneca has now gone into production of 2 billion doses. The foreign press are also confidently printing the same. AstraZeneca has lined up agreements to produce 2 billion doses. It is now also being reported that their phase 3 trial is also going well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,162 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Well b back said: Jenner is reporting Astra Zeneca has now gone into production of 2 billion doses. The foreign press are also confidently printing the same. AstraZeneca has lined up agreements to produce 2 billion doses. It is now also being reported that their phase 3 trial is also going well. Sorry, can you explain. I'm confused as to whether 'lined up agreements to produce' is the same as 'gone into production of'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 Hi loos this thread mainly uses the foreign press reports as they are usually 2 weeks ahead of the U.K. We have learned to trust those reports. Over the last few days we have been quoting the positive results of phase 1 and what will be announced today we have seen reported over the last 2 weeks. We are predicting in today’s announcement there will be an announcement that it’s 2 doses that work and not 1. We suspect as well there will be something about human challenge. The reports of AstraZeneca now moving into full scale production are coming from America and India. A few days back on this thread we reported reports of enough people have been infected for the analysis to begin. Nothing on here is fact all is rumour, but as yet none of those rumours have been proven incorrect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 Well everyone Mr Hancock is making an announcement at 5 pm. Let me guess what that will be. Phase 1 complete success Two doses needed and not One Astrazenica are now pushing ahead Results of phase 3 will be announced in next few weeks No guarantees but looking promising UK have plans in place to begin inoculations in October Thank you to the Pinkun thread that has kept me updated with the latest info as no one told me lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 Oxford are now releasing trial data and the like for results ( this is treatments and what the virus is doing not the vaccine ) https://twitter.com/OxfordMedSci?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^embeddedtimeline|twterm^profile%3AJennerInstitute&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jenner.ac.uk%2F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted July 16, 2020 There are now reports that the Oxford vaccine is so good ( I assume at stooping it getting to your lungs ) we may not even need boosters. I think our thread maybe coming to an end by October. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
