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[Van wink 2,994]

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[Rock The Boat 1,332]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="mrs miggins"]Although we do have a chance, it''s not pathetic to say that we will probably go down or will go down.

It''s like if a poster says; ''we''ll stay up.'' - It''s an opinion and I don''t expect to see constant moderation of a comment like this, despite out of the two view points, statically speaking, it''s the less likely one.

It''s not defeatist to think we''ll go down, many thought that at the start of the season because of the lack of quality in the team, inexperienced manager at the helm, lack of money being spent etc. However it doesn''t affect how they support the club, they still turn up every other week in full voice. Criticising your team on a forum should not be moderated, it should be questioned.

As someone in another thread pointed out, if strong opinions are going to continually be moderated, it will end up like the norwichtalkforum. Glad that people are not giving in to the desire from posters wishing to moderate this forum.

I encourage a good debate but just calling someone negative and not a supporter for thinking that we''ll go down is pathetic.[/quote]

I will steer clear of any debate about the merits or otherwise of NorwichTalk, but there are some points about why moderation here can sometimes - only sometimes - seem draconian.For starters, there is an aggressive- defensive mantra on the lines of "This is a football message-board. You have to expect bad language." Well, some message-boards are essentially lads'' magazine in cyberspace with an unshockable clientele. This isn''t. The moderators have to assume it is seen by as broad a cross-section of people, from six-year-olds to nonagenarian maiden aunts, as read the EDP.This board is moderated by one or more professionals who, because it is part of their training, know the laws on defamation and contempt of court in particular, and could even by in danger of disciplinary action if their laxity caused a costly lawsuit. I don''t know, but from what I have seen I doubt that applies to other boards.This board has a wide readership and is run by a multi-million pound company, as opposed to boards with small readerships and with not a penny to their name. Given a choice, which is more likely to be sued?! [/quote]

Purple

Could you have a word with this multi-million pound company and ask them to spend a couple of bob on some up-to-date forum software.

A new CSS stylesheet doesn''t quite cut it.

[PurpleCanary 5,592]

[quote user="Rock The Boat"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="mrs miggins"]Although we do have a chance, it''s not pathetic to say that we will probably go down or will go down.

It''s like if a poster says; ''we''ll stay up.'' - It''s an opinion and I don''t expect to see constant moderation of a comment like this, despite out of the two view points, statically speaking, it''s the less likely one.

It''s not defeatist to think we''ll go down, many thought that at the start of the season because of the lack of quality in the team, inexperienced manager at the helm, lack of money being spent etc. However it doesn''t affect how they support the club, they still turn up every other week in full voice. Criticising your team on a forum should not be moderated, it should be questioned.

As someone in another thread pointed out, if strong opinions are going to continually be moderated, it will end up like the norwichtalkforum. Glad that people are not giving in to the desire from posters wishing to moderate this forum.

I encourage a good debate but just calling someone negative and not a supporter for thinking that we''ll go down is pathetic.[/quote]

I will steer clear of any debate about the merits or otherwise of NorwichTalk, but there are some points about why moderation here can sometimes - only sometimes - seem draconian.For starters, there is an aggressive- defensive mantra on the lines of "This is a football message-board. You have to expect bad language." Well, some message-boards are essentially lads'' magazine in cyberspace with an unshockable clientele. This isn''t. The moderators have to assume it is seen by as broad a cross-section of people, from six-year-olds to nonagenarian maiden aunts, as read the EDP.This board is moderated by one or more professionals who, because it is part of their training, know the laws on defamation and contempt of court in particular, and could even by in danger of disciplinary action if their laxity caused a costly lawsuit. I don''t know, but from what I have seen I doubt that applies to other boards.This board has a wide readership and is run by a multi-million pound company, as opposed to boards with small readerships and with not a penny to their name. Given a choice, which is more likely to be sued?! [/quote]

Purple

Could you have a word with this multi-million pound company and ask them to spend a couple of bob on some up-to-date forum software.

A new CSS stylesheet doesn''t quite cut it.[/quote]If I had a clue what a CSS stylesheet was I am sure I would share your pain.

[Katie Borkins 1]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Rock The Boat"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="mrs miggins"]Although we do have a chance, it''s not pathetic to say that we will probably go down or will go down.

It''s like if a poster says; ''we''ll stay up.'' - It''s an opinion and I don''t expect to see constant moderation of a comment like this, despite out of the two view points, statically speaking, it''s the less likely one.

It''s not defeatist to think we''ll go down, many thought that at the start of the season because of the lack of quality in the team, inexperienced manager at the helm, lack of money being spent etc. However it doesn''t affect how they support the club, they still turn up every other week in full voice. Criticising your team on a forum should not be moderated, it should be questioned.

As someone in another thread pointed out, if strong opinions are going to continually be moderated, it will end up like the norwichtalkforum. Glad that people are not giving in to the desire from posters wishing to moderate this forum.

I encourage a good debate but just calling someone negative and not a supporter for thinking that we''ll go down is pathetic.[/quote]

I will steer clear of any debate about the merits or otherwise of NorwichTalk, but there are some points about why moderation here can sometimes - only sometimes - seem draconian.For starters, there is an aggressive- defensive mantra on the lines of "This is a football message-board. You have to expect bad language." Well, some message-boards are essentially lads'' magazine in cyberspace with an unshockable clientele. This isn''t. The moderators have to assume it is seen by as broad a cross-section of people, from six-year-olds to nonagenarian maiden aunts, as read the EDP.This board is moderated by one or more professionals who, because it is part of their training, know the laws on defamation and contempt of court in particular, and could even by in danger of disciplinary action if their laxity caused a costly lawsuit. I don''t know, but from what I have seen I doubt that applies to other boards.This board has a wide readership and is run by a multi-million pound company, as opposed to boards with small readerships and with not a penny to their name. Given a choice, which is more likely to be sued?! [/quote]

Purple

Could you have a word with this multi-million pound company and ask them to spend a couple of bob on some up-to-date forum software.

A new CSS stylesheet doesn''t quite cut it.[/quote]If I had a clue what a CSS stylesheet was I am sure I would share your pain.[/quote]

A Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) is essentially the way that a web page is presented to the end user of a website via HTML, which I assume you are aware of.  It is however dependent on the browser type & version being used.

In grammatical terms, along with "PIN Number", a "CSS stylesheet" would be a "Cascading Style Sheet Style Sheet", which is clearly bobbins.  So I do not blame you for your confusion.

Think of it as a presentation layer.  Unfortunately the content is still the same.

[PurpleCanary 5,592]

[quote user="Katie Borkins"]

A Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) is essentially the way that a web page is presented to the end user of a website via HTML, which I assume you are aware of.  It is however dependent on the browser type & version being used.

In grammatical terms, along with "PIN Number", a "CSS stylesheet" would be a "Cascading Style Sheet Style Sheet", which is clearly bobbins.  So I do not blame you for your confusion.

Think of it as a presentation layer.  Unfortunately the content is still the same.

[/quote]Thanks. I am now much better informed. But probably none the wiser...

[morty 0]

Stay on topic please, straying off topic is against T&C''s.[:)]

[Chip20 69]

If I had a clue what T&C''s was I am sure I would share your pain.

:-;

[Chip20 69]

Well, I fcuk''d that emoticon up!

[Chip20 69]

Whaaaaaat!!? I''m not even allowed to put an anagram of an expletive now?

[morty 0]

[quote user="Chip20"]Whaaaaaat!!? I''m not even allowed to put an anagram of an expletive now?[/quote]My mistake, it isn''t "Terms and Conditions" its "Code of conduct" or Coc for short.

These message boards are unmoderated.

 

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[:)]

[lappinitup 629]

Well done Morty - I''ve never known you to use foreign languages. [:D]

[morty 0]

[quote user="lappinitup"]Well done Morty - I''ve never known you to use foreign languages. [:D][/quote]Is that the only one I haven''t broken?Merde.

[morty 0]

[quote user="morty"][quote user="lappinitup"]Well done Morty - I''ve never known you to use foreign languages. [:D][/quote]Is that the only one I haven''t broken?Merde.[/quote]Seriously, the French word for $hit gets starred out here?Jeez.

[Chip20 69]

So did my abbreviation of French Connection UK! Incidentally, my point about T&C''s was a light hearted reference to Purple''s earlier one about CSS. Unfortunately, the winking emoticon intended to convert this went a bit Pete Tong.

[morty 0]

[quote user="Chip20"]So did my abbreviation of French Connection UK! Incidentally, my point about T&C''s was a light hearted reference to Purple''s earlier one about CSS. Unfortunately, the winking emoticon intended to convert this went a bit Pete Tong.[/quote]I blame the Illuminati.

[Katie Borkins 1]

[quote user="Chip20"]If I had a clue what T&C''s was I am sure I would share your pain.

:-;[/quote]

I quite like it.

It looks like a sabre toothed tiger who lost a tooth.

[Katie Borkins 1]

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• Result in contempt of court – do not post anything which could prejudice court proceedings currently or in the future. It is basically contempt of court to comment on any crime once someone has been arrested for it, even if they have not yet been charged. That is when proceedings become active and potential jurors may be swayed by what they read.
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So basically the only post on this forum should be the one stating these Code of Conduct rules & everything else should be deleted and all users banned.

Sounds good to me [y]

[morty 0]

[quote user="Katie Borkins"]

1. Do not advertise products or services on the message boards. Any advertising without permission will be removed.

 

2. Keep to the topic of the original thread and do not post multiple threads on the same subject.

 

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• Threaten, intimidate, victimise or harass others.
• Make libellous comments about individuals or companies, including Archant newspapers, magazines or websites, and their staff or contributors. The law against defamation protects individuals or organisations from attacks on their reputation. This means the publication of any statement which: exposes them to hatred, ridicule or contempt , causes them to be shunned or avoided, discredits them in their trade, business or profession, or generally lowers them in the eyes of right thinking members of society. Unlike other charges, the onus is on you in cases of libel, as the author, to prove your statement or comment is legal.
• Result in contempt of court – do not post anything which could prejudice court proceedings currently or in the future. It is basically contempt of court to comment on any crime once someone has been arrested for it, even if they have not yet been charged. That is when proceedings become active and potential jurors may be swayed by what they read.
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So basically the only post on this forum should be the one stating these Code of Conduct rules & everything else should be deleted and all users banned.

Sounds good to me [y]

[/quote]Pretty much[:D]

[morty 0]

But, anyway, getting this back on track, yeah, we can do this.If the players can maintain the performance from last week, and we maybe get a bit of luck in front of goal, early doors, then I think we can get something today.Also Aston Villa playing for pride, with no pressure on them, would be nice too.That game sees the worst home record come up against the worst away record.

[PurpleCanary 5,592]

[quote user="Vanwink"]I would be interested to know how the "report " button actually works on here, if you hit that does the thread just get pulled? Can''t believe that''s the case or loads would have gone, particularly when old LDC kept getting stick even for posting?

So I am guessing you press the report button and then there is a moderation? Is that right?[/quote]I have only used it once, a couple of years ago, to report a post that was spectacularly defamatory. If the person being traduced had seen it they might well have sued, and would have won. And whoever at Archant Towers saw my report presumably agreed, because after a while the post disappeared. It isn''t, based on my solitary experience, an automatic process.

[Van wink 2,994]

Thanks

[sonyc 5,541]

Back on topic, it is up to Everton and Watford now to influence our season once and for all. Sunderland at home Wednesday night to Everton and then away at Watford. Us with the reciprocal games, home and away. Newcastle then have to beat Spurs who will desperately want 2nd place. It''s is not absolutely over. We have to actually score and beat Watford plus Sunderland need to lose against an imploding Everton for the possibility to arise. The odds must be something like 20/1 for these 4 results?. Then it''s a matter of last day heroics at Everton. I''m resigned to it all but there''s still a glimmer