Man Who Stares at Goats

[quote user="Even Keel"]Playing like a Hughton team again, all aimless passing and long balls. Not the Norwich way, this is terrible.[/quote]Put the aspirin and razor blades away and enjoy the fact that we beat the binners on their own turf.Right now I really don''t care about the ''how'', because we''ve just won 3 games in a row and we''re top of the league .. and we did it at portaloo rd.Well done lads.....well done Neil....

I hope everyone has enough pants for all the wetting that going to take place this season.....

I''ll second that!Redmond would be a huge asset for us this season. Selling him for anything less that £13MM would be inconceivable. And moving to Stoke or Southhampton? Southhampton maybe, but Stoke? Someone needs to sit him down and tell him that he needs to put in two good years at NCFC, and grow in an environment that compliments his skill level, then I wouldn''t be surprised if one of the big 6 come knocking.As for Fer, off load that sourpuss ASAP, because he''s right on track to become the next Dixon Etuhu.

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing.I know it''s only a friendly but you can see the early signs of patterns and styles of play to come.Looking forward to the new season!

From the intelligence level of the OP I get the feeling that we''re talking about a woman who has really impressive, mouth watering, adult fantasy, gym-sock tits that the OP no doubt suckled until the age of 15.That''s just what my gut says.

[quote user="Its Character Forming"]Who have Sunderland got to play ? And who have they just beaten?[/quote]Those are great questions Character Forming.... can you share the lottery picks?They play West Brom who will be looking to avoid the relegation fight and then Swansea, who have nothing to play for but pride. Either way, we don''t know the final scores yet. Go ahead and opt out if you wish...but there''s still hope. My biggest concern is that if West Brom and Sunderland both play for a draw, then it''s over.

[quote user="Its Character Forming"]A point isn''t good enough Neil![/quote]A point today and a win against Arsenal, with Sunderland losing their last two will see us safe.

Their win over West Brom today was HUGE!Now West Brom will be feeling the heat and will fight it out against Sunderland on the 7th to ensure their survival, while Arsenal have locked in their Champions League spot for next year. With their sites set on the FA Cup final, the team might not be firing on all cylinders when we meet on the 11th.Clutching at straws I know, but I''d rather cluth at straws than thin air!

A couple of threads of hope for today''s game:Line up against Athletico Madrid:vs Athletico Madrdid:   Schwarzer; Azpilicueta, Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic, Ramires, Luiz; Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Torres vs Norwich City FC:     Schwarzer; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Cole; Lampard, Matic; Salah, Willian, Schurrle, Ba.1.) Chelsea''s defence will be physically tired after their Champions League game on Wednesday.2.) Some of the younger might not respond well to Jose''s talk about not giving their all. -or-1.) The players will be pi55ed after being dumped out of the Champions League and come out with their adrenaline all flared up and wanting to win the Prem.2.) The younger players will want to prove their worth.Wow... outside the realm of family health, I haven''t felt this hopeful in a long time.ON THE BALL CITY!!!!!

[quote user="morty"][quote user="JF"]I think The Guardian. Yeah I have just read the piece on their site. Not a chance of getting a points deduction off them now. Best the club could hope for is compensation. They only gained one point when he was playing anyway![/quote]Like I said, I believe it was purely an administrative error, that the club themselves held their hands up to, rather than being deliberately deceitful.[/quote] Fair point, Morty, but ignorance of the law shouldn''t shield Sunderland from the consequences of those actions. And how do we know if it was truly an ''administrative error''? They could have presented and sold the situation as such. have you ever tried telling a police officer that you didn''t see the speed limit sign?In either case, innocently or intentional, the law is the law and it should be handed down accordingly, if not only to preserve the integrity of the laws themselves. If we happen to benefit from a points deduction on their part, then gravy.The only part of this that I don''t agree with is that not all of the teams in the premier league are pushing for this. It seems only the three teams in trouble are crying for mummy. Bottom line, Sunderland violated the law. We''re not talking about middle school kids or a pick-up game; this is the premier league and they cheated. Therefore they should be punished accordingly.

Sorry there Jenkins, but I quoted the wrong post.

[quote user="Jenkins"]Spot on[/quote]Bravo Sir!And the magnitude of the change in belief, in such a short span of time! I truly believed that we could''ve leveled that game today and earned a point. Which is a heck of a lot different than what I believed two weeks ago. Not that I''m looking to coin a phrase, but it sure had an element of the swash-buckling, no fear days of Lambert!If this keeps up, then I say give Neal the job permanently.

[quote user="Jenkins"]That''s where your wrong Flecky, what we have lacked is confidence and it is returning.[/quote]This.Confidence breads the mindset that plays without fear or hesitation. The next few games will be interesting indeed to watch. My question is, will we play without fear and hesitation because that''s the new mind set that Adams has instilled, or because we have nothing to lose?I truly believe that Adams will have them playing out of their skins for the next three games and after today''s performance I don''t think Chelsea, Man U, or Arsenal will be looking past us.I think Neil Adams is having one of the toughest job interviews I have every seen and thus far is proving himself to be worthy of taking on the job at hand.

[quote user="Gingerpele"]Look forward to the next match?Are you for real? How on earth can we look forward to the next match?If you know anything about me you''ll know i''m generally very positive when it comes to NCFCBut seriously LDC. We''re terrible at the moment. We are at huge risk in terms of relegation and its incredibly worrying and frustrating because we have a set of players who should have seen us safer than the last two seasons. But we''ve regressed and look like we have no fight, no desire, no tactical ability, no leaders, no goal scoring ability, no defensive ability.Two goals because of lazy Southampton mistakes aren''t a positive. If Ricky had scored, maybe. But Elamdner isn''t about to go on a goal scoring run. We''ve lost another away game. We lost to another team who weren''t in great form. We''re now putting huge amounts of pressure on our next two home games. And its all just unnecessary.If you''re not worrying great. But stop trying to get other people to stop worrying.[/quote] Gingerpele, so you''re telling me that you haven''t learned the secret yet?It''s quite simple, all you need is the memory span of a goldfish and you will forever live in the optimistic sunshine that LDC experiences on a recurring 3-second basis.

[quote user="Reggie Strayshun"]I decided a week or so ago that it''s completely pointless arguing with moronic deluded people like LDC, Morty and NN. As their nonsense seem to dominate this whole board, franky contributing to it is stupid. Some of the total garbage they have written on this thread has rather proved that my decision is correct. The rest of you continue, but, I''m giving up on them.[/quote] I''ll second that....

[quote user="lake district canary"][quote user="hogesar"]LDC proves to be the biggest cock in the thread - shocker. Well, two goals we didn''t deserve, but at least it made the final few minutes worth watching.[/quote]My reaction was to all the complete garbage written on this thread.  Anything can happen in these games and we very nearly got back into it.  Frustration is a  peculiar thing.  I was frustrated watching the match, but looking in on here was like reading from a pessimists w*nkfest.   Some of you just give up too easily.   [/quote]But we didn''t give up LDC. We saw what was happening and called it as it was. I''m absolutely on board when the evidence and actions supports it. But you can not honestly tell me that while you were watching/listening to that game that you believed that NCFC had a FIGHTING chance, did you?You seem to be thinking as if a duck can perform as an eagle.

[quote user="Tony Cottee Woz Ere . . ."]Ironically those 2 late goals could be the worse thing to happen to us all season. Probably saves Hughton for another week, which right now we can''t afford.[/quote]I wouldn''t be so certain about that, Tony. I''m sure that those who are watching are not just looking at the final result. They would''ve seen the lack of passion and another 90 minutes of poor decision making and lacking of ideas.The way I see it, two gifted goals simply softens the sting of screaming in my head.

[quote user="morty"][quote user="Man Who Stares at Goats"][quote user="morty"][quote user="Man Who Stares at Goats"][quote user="morty"]Gone a bit quiet in the thread....[/quote]No Morty. Two gifted goals does not make up for 89 minutes of utter 5hite! [/quote]Whatever.Some people are only happy when they''re moaning...[/quote]And others seem to only be happy when they live in blind denial.I haven''t decided if your a fool or an idiot.....but it''s darn close. [/quote]You know f-all about what I think mate[Y][/quote] I don''t need, nor care about what you think, since just helped me confirm that you are in fact an idiot. I hope you like the smell of your own 5hit, since that''s where you''ve got your head stuck.

[quote user="morty"][quote user="Man Who Stares at Goats"][quote user="morty"]Gone a bit quiet in the thread....[/quote]No Morty. Two gifted goals does not make up for 89 minutes of utter 5hite! [/quote]Whatever.Some people are only happy when they''re moaning...[/quote]And others seem to only be happy when they live in blind denial.I haven''t decided if your a fool or an idiot.....but it''s darn close.

[quote user="morty"]Gone a bit quiet in the thread....[/quote]No Morty. Two gifted goals does not make up for 89 minutes of utter 5hite!

You can actually see it on Houghton''s face and the way he''s moving in the technical area that he doesn''t know what to tell his team.

It amazes me that the man doesn''t have the dignity to resign. I''d have more respect for him if he raised his hands and admitted that he''s out of his depth.This is a sorry state of affairs. We have the players. We don''t have the direction or fire.

[quote user="morty"][quote user="Houston Canary"]Who the hell are all you people, and why do you just turn up when we''re losing? Well, technically they don''t JUST show up when we''re losing, either. Or does "technically" not apply to your comments? .[/quote]Do you just log in to have pops at me?You inbred cow molester.[/quote]I''m not sure I understand your original comment, Morty.The chances of someone logging in to comment on this message board and NCFC losing, are actually pretty high.In fact, if you look closely enough, we''ve been losing for well over a year.

[quote user="Sir Humphrey Appleby"]Can I just ask why you feel Hughton is at fault in this game, he sent them out and they were comfortably the best team for the first 25minutes. We got hit with a blinding goal and the players have just crumbled. That is the fault of the players not the manager, what do you expect him to do? What would you have done differently after the first goal?[/quote]Sir Humphrey,Let met try and spell it out to you in a different way:"We got hit with a blinding goal and the players have just crumbled." - It was indeed a world class goal. Full credit due. "What would you have done differently after the first goal?" - As a player, I would''ve thought, "What a 5ucking good goal that was. Right, let''s get stuck in. We''ve got a game on our hands."Now, if one or two players had lost the plot, then I would point the finger squarely at the players in question. However, most of the team lost the plot. So the question should actually be, why were the players unable to recover from the first goal and continue to play in the same vain as the first 25 minutes?To answer my own question, I would say it''s because the players are not playing with a winning mentality, or even the belief that they can win, or even fight their way back into the game and this is the result of poor mental preparation and tone, both in the short and long term, which in turn is set by the manager. Not that I would want Paul Lambert back, he had his time as steward of this club''s fortunes, but that man knew how to get players to play. When he managed NCFC, the players didn''t except defeat until the final whistle was blown.This is also evident in the fact that we play to the level of our opponents. Why is it that we can play well against Man City, but lose to Cardiff? I''ll tell you why. Because the team have not been psychologically prepared to impose their will upon the game. Hence, we default to playing to the level of our opposition.Don''t get me wrong, Humphrey, there is an element of truth in your argument; the players should indeed be held accountable for their performance. If it''s a single player or two....sub their sorry ar5ses. But when a entire misfires and the manager hasn''t prepared them on how to fight back in losing situation, then I''m sorry, that''s on the manager. And if it were just a one off situation, you could say "bad day at the office", but it''s not a one off. It''s happened far too many times. It''s now a pattern and thus a problem.

[quote user="Sir Humphrey Appleby"]How is this Hughton''s fault - we were comfortably on top and the players have just crumbled, what do you expect him to do??????? Experienced pros like Bassong are having nightmares, that sin''t the manager''s fault![/quote]What I said in another thread: To think that the ''individual errors'' that occur during NCFC playing are not a systemic result of a weak mindset instilled by a weak management team, well, that''s just simply denial.The ongoing and recurring problem of ''individuals errors has nothing to do with the manager'' is a poor excuse for a team that is ill prepared, lacking confidence and bereft of creativity. All of which are the result of a long and recurring string of poor and poor results.The plague of ''individual errors'' that exist within NCFC week-in/week-out, is more a reflection of a state of mind that is allowed to exist due to a management team which is unable to create a single-minded driven understanding for all the players to buy into.