kick it off

What? The point was that they know we are keen, otherwise we wouldn''t bother going for him. Which means them knowing we are keen because terms etc are sorted doesn''t weaken our bargaining position, because they already knew we were keen due to the fact we even bothered trying to sort a deal out. Medical issues can be fixed, players being crap can''t. There is a chance the player may never get back to 100% if there are medical concerns, therefore they command a lesser fee as there is more risk in the purchase. Teams are interested in good players with medical questions. They''re not interested in crap players that are fully healthy. Everton were still keen after the medical, but they wanted the risk to be reflected in the price. I literally dont understand what you are trying to say mate, but I hope the above answers whatever it was.

EDIT: I mean does the online Canary store not ship abroad?

Does canary store not ship abroad? I had the same issue with getting a Redskins jersey. NFL official site wanted more than the cost of the jersey just to ship it to the UK!!! NFLShopEurope opened up now for customers over here but if the CanaryStore won''t ship abroad then you''re unlikely to get one from elsewhere online. If you want, you can order it and have it sent to me, and I''ll post it over to you. PM me if you want to do it that way.

With regards to it weakening our negotiating position - I dont think so. They know we''re keen cuz otherwise why bother? You don''t try and do deals for players you think are tosh. If Fer is keen then it makes sense for Twente to get the deal done so they can find his replacement, as if they don''t then Leroy might decide to force a move. Refuse to play for them, refuse to move anywhere else, which would substantially strengthen our position. I don''t think it''s in anyone''s interests to drag their heels on this one.

Actually it makes a lot of sense for the fee not to have been agreed until after the medical. Assuming we take the Everton medical failure at face value and not as a smokescreen, the reason that deal collapsed was because Everton wanted to negotiate a lower fee based on the medical. They still wanted him after the medical (according to the press), just at a lower price. Assuming that story to be true, It makes sense for Twente to allow him to do terms/medical first as then it prevents us trying to move the goalposts on price based on the medical result (as happened in January allegedly). Medical done first means we negotiate a fee and that''s the price, no p*ssing around, no re-thinking our offer etc. It makes sense for both parties too. Twente are obviously confident he''ll pass the medical, and they will get the best price for him. We are obviously benefitting from knowing we have a 100% healthy player, or we can knock a few mill off in the negotiations so we can''t lose. Makes sense. I expect the fee will be agreed by the weekend at the latest. Also explains why the price seems to have been reported at several different numbers, as obv we''d have discussed a ball park price-range with Twente so we''re on the same page. It also explains the delay in unveiling, the more I think about it, the more I think this is the case.

Apologies. As it said mixed messages blahblah I never bothered reading. At least if there were mixed messages there is now clarity.

Moving to a points based system. http://www.canaries.co.uk/news/article/away-ticket-allocation-system-908486.aspx?

Where has Twente chairman said this?

Ajax just signed a Centre back. Maybe something is afoot.... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8818608/Transfer-news-Ajax-sign-Mike-van-der-Hoorn-from-FC-Utrecht

Funny, I just read an article from Dutch press saying agent had confirmed deal and fer will be unveiled by Friday.... http://totaldutch.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/fer-set-to-join-canaries/

His agent said that days ago and all the ditch press are reporting a Norwich medical today. Do keep up.

Pierre Van Hooijdonk scored 36 goals in 71 games for Forest. Better than a 1 in 2 strike rate. If that''s not success then I''m glad you''re not my boss!

Javier''s DT - That''s not accurate. I read that story and if you read the quotes attached to it, they are quotes from Toby''s agent BEFORE he came to visit (if indeed he did). Very misleading and poor piece of journalism.

For decades, our location has been seen as a negative by prospective signings (Not all, but a large number I would imagine). Suddenly, DM comes on board and as soon as we can afford to, a little common sense is applied and we look at good, young Dutch talent, or players who have settled in Holland and have a life/friends/roots there. Negative becomes positive as they have easy access via a short flight. Smart thinking, although it is so obvious I''m surprised we''ve never gone for it before.

Stetson is not a bad shout. I''m considering it, but I might go for a Deer stalker as that way I can moonlight as a detective for a bit of extra coin on the side.

Russ martin was a January signing in league one season so its not just wessi left from our halcyon days

African Nations is every 2 years isn''t it ? I get your point though

Conversely Toivonenenenenenen came off the bench for PSV in their friendly today.... hmmmmmm....

Im 95% certain there was one from Elfrink that has since been deleted saying " COCU: ''I think Toivonen will join Norwich. He''s still talking with the club'' " - Im not 100% sure though, it may have been a PSV fan Twitter exaggerating the aforementioned comment where I saw that quote.

Cocu said according to Rik Elfrink: "I think Toivonen will join Norwich. He''s still talking with the club" (https://twitter.com/RikElfrink)

Redmond 4 year deal. Good business.

[quote user="Branston Pickle"]The link for my bit was ''Vital Norwich'', but it may be that their source was pants.[/quote] Yep, their source was crap. It was a fake twitter account, a copy of a Daily Telegraph journo''s account, which is where I suspect Surfbird got his info.

[quote user="First Wazzock"][quote user="crabbycanary"]Goodo - what times the press conference tomorrow?[/quote] 2pm isn''t it? [^o)] [/quote] Yeah 2pm as usual I reckon.

Pinkun just said on Twitter that they''ve not been informed of this.... sounds a bit odd....

Where''s this info come from?