Row D Seat 7 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Maric - Poor playerAskou - Tidy playerHolt - Good player, might be lost at a higher level though.Whaley - Very poorNelson - Still unsure, definately a League 1 playerTudor Jones - Not impressed so far.Wiggins - Not seen him play.Gill - PoorHughes - Brings class to the team.McVeigh - Good so far, but will his good form remain?!Alnwick - Good keeper, but no longer our player.Theo - Could be our worst ever keeper.People talk about Gunn''s signings being great and how we owe him much thanks for those signings BUT i''m only happy with 3/4 of them. 3/4 out of 12 signings isn''t great actually.Just because Gunn bought in 12 players doesn''t mean all those 12 are good players, far from it. Gunn bought a League One side in the summer, you need a league one side with several championship players in it, we don''t have that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted September 9, 2009 fergie at man utd , doesn''t get the best player every time!!eric djemba djemba?others i cant think of !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Its only my opinion 0 Posted September 9, 2009 but he also finds some of the best players in the world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted September 9, 2009 but i was just trying to get the point across that even the best managers don''t always get good players!diego forlan is another example who was good before and after man utd but poor in his spell there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Its only my opinion 0 Posted September 9, 2009 ok, i was just saying u cant really compare gunn n alex ferguson but i get where your coming from[:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Bump 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Maric - Predicted: Good - Actual: Too early to judge, but not too promisingAskou - Predicted Good - Actual: GoodHolt - Predicted: Good - Actual: Very GoodWhaley - Predicted: Poor - Actual: PoorNelson - Predicted: Poor - Actual: PoorTudor Jones - Predicted: Poor - Actual: PoorWiggins - n/aGill - Predicted: Poor - Actual: PoorHughes - Predicted: Good - Actual: Very GoodMcVeigh - Predicted: Poor - Actual: GoodAlnwick - Predicted: OK - Actual: OKTheo - Predicted: Poor - Actual: Poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted September 9, 2009 FFS, grant holt is a good player, hard working. But he wont be great at championship level. He has proven himself up against league 2 defence, and league 1 a bit. But i dont actually think that he would score that many goals above this level! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted September 9, 2009 That''s what I''m saying - Grant Holt would struggle at a higher level. However, I do like him - seems a decent hardworking bloke.Comparing Ferguson to Gunn is a poor thing to do. You''re basically comparing the best manager that ever lived to an odd jobsman at Norwich City. It just annoys me how people bang on about how good Gunn''s singings are, but actually they aren''t that good at all. You only have to look at his choice of a number one goalkeeper.I do think Lambert is a good manager who will get us promoted, whether it''s this season or next. However, I do think to give Gunn credit for signing 12 players, of which only 3 or 4 are any good, is a bit much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libbra Lives in Dubai 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Maric: L1/L2 - will only be judged if he is given enough gamesAskou: Championship - one of our best signings this seasonHolt: L1/Championship - one of our best signings this seasonWhaley: L2 - doesnt look interestedNelson: L1/L2 - doesnt look solidTudor Jones: L1/L2 - lanky and disorganisedWiggins: L1/L2 - yet to prove selfGill: L2 - looks poorHughes: L1/Championship - looking good McVeigh: L1 - still tidy WLYAlnwick: L1 - shame he''s goneTheo: L2 - lot to do to overcome debutand the rest...Forster: L1 - not a permanent optionDumic: L2 - a season or two awayRenton: Conf - get ridStephens: Conf - has potential Rudd: L2/Conf - loan him outSteer: L2 - has great potentialDoherty: L1 - high wages, but good on his daySpillane: L1 - good player at this standardHabergham: Conf - very youngOtsemobor: L1 - if managed correctly...Lappin: L1 - found his levelKelly: L2/Conf - has potentialAdeyemi: L1 - has great potentialMartin: L1 - development has slowedRussell: Championship - either play him or get his wages off our booksDaley: L2 - unconvincedMcDonald: L1 - usefulDrury: L1/Championship - still goodHoolahan: Championship - great - if lacking a little positional discipline and end productCureton: L1/L2 - past it, get him outLathrope: Conf - poorSmith: L1/L2 - shows potentialFor me, the strongest team on paper would be...Forster Spillane Askou Doherty DruryMcVeigh Hughes Russell LappinHolt Hoolahan Altogether too much crap if you ask me (which, I know, you didn''y) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted September 9, 2009 He has never been given the chance, but i think holt could do a job for a lower team in that league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Holt is at this level for a reason, as are Norwich City and our players. Pretty sad really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Maric - Predicted: Good - Actual: Not promisingAskou - Predicted: Average - Actual: GoodHolt - Predicted: Good - Actual: Very GoodWhaley - Predicted: Very Good - Actual: PoorNelson - Predicted: Average - Actual: PoorTudor Jones - Predicted: Very Good - Actual: PoorWiggins - Predicted: Very Good - Actual: Hasn''t playedGill - Predicted: Average - Actual: PoorHughes - Predicted: Good - Actual: Very GoodMcVeigh - Predicted: Average - Actual: GoodAlnwick - Predicted: Very Good - Actual: AverageTheo - Predicted: Good - Actual: Poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dronny Canary 0 Posted September 9, 2009 [quote user="Brendan"]FFS, grant holt is a good player, hard working. But he wont be great at championship level. He has proven himself up against league 2 defence, and league 1 a bit. But i dont actually think that he would score that many goals above this level![/quote]If he''s good enough to help us get out of this mess that will be great. I don''t really care if he isn''t up to Championship level, although I suspect he could also do a job there too. Let''s get back up there and worry about who''s good enough and who isn''t then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Morriss 69 Posted September 9, 2009 absolutely pointless post as your judging every player on a a couple of games.Nelson was shocking against Colchester, but then played very well against Hartlepool and Walsall.Give them a chance, how you can say Maric is poor when weve hardly seen anything of him is a joke. Played well last night apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewie - Holt Our Saviour 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Theo - Predicted: Good Actual: 1st game was very poorForster - Predicted: Average Actual: GoodOTJ - Predicted: Average Actual: Ok at bestGill - Predicted: Average Actual: PoorHughes - Predicted: very good Actual: very goodHolt - Predicted: very good actual: very goodMcveigh - Predicted: Good actual - goodAskou - Predicted: Average actual: GoodNelson - Predicted: average actual: OkWhaley - Predicted: Good actual: PoorMaric - Predicted: Good actual: Poor 1st gameWiggins - Predicted: Good actual: N/AForster L1/ChampTheo Conf/L2OTJ L1/L2Gill L2Hughes ChampHolt L1/ChampMcveigh L1Lappin L1Askou ChampNelson L1/L2Whaley L2Maric L1/L2Wiggins N/ACureton L2Russell ChampHoolahan ChampRenton ConfDaley L2McDonald L1/ChampMartin L1Doc - L1/L2Spillane L1Smith L1/ChampAdeyemi L1/ChampOtsem L1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dronny Canary 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Nelson was shocking against Colchester, but then played very well against Hartlepool and Walsall.Hoof! Hoof! Hoof! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted September 9, 2009 He certainly wasn''t good against Walsall and I would put the clean sheet down to Walsall''s inept ability infront of goal then praise his performance. I can''t say about the Hartlepool match as wasn''t there, but so far 2 games I have seen him play in the league campaign have been poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John 0 Posted September 9, 2009 [quote user="Lewie - Holt our saviour"]OTJ - Predicted: AverageHughes - Predicted: very good Holt - Predicted: very good Mcveigh - Predicted: Good [/quote]Do not believe that in the slightest to be honest...... However, in saying that, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend. 3-0 England! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dronny Canary 0 Posted September 9, 2009 [quote user="Legend Iwan"]He certainly wasn''t good against Walsall and I would put the clean sheet down to Walsall''s inept ability infront of goal then praise his performance. I can''t say about the Hartlepool match as wasn''t there, but so far 2 games I have seen him play in the league campaign have been poor.[/quote]Believe me, at Hartlepool he scored a fantastic goal, but defending wise he was poor. I''d love him to do well as he comes across as one of those wholehearted honest players who gives all he has. The kindest description I can think of is "limited". Let''s be honest, as soon as Lambert has organised a decent loan central defender the closest Nelson will get to the team is the subs bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted September 9, 2009 The thing I don''t get about Nelson is why, like Askou always tries to pass and stop the ball with his head, does Nelson feel the need to stop the ball with his groin instead of the inside of his thighs? [*-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dronny Canary 0 Posted September 9, 2009 [quote user="Legend Iwan"]The thing I don''t get about Nelson is why, like Askou always tries to pass and stop the ball with his head, does Nelson feel the need to stop the ball with his groin instead of the inside of his thighs? [*-)][/quote]They breed em tough "up north"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted September 9, 2009 Why don''t you try the same exercise with Roeder''s and Grant''s signings? I think it might make Gunn''s performance look more impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dronny Canary 0 Posted September 9, 2009 [quote user="Nuff Said"]Why don''t you try the same exercise with Roeder''s and Grant''s signings? I think it might make Gunn''s performance look more impressive.[/quote]Roeder and Grant were also awful but in different ways. However, neither of them led Norwich down into the 3rd Division - Bryan did. Roeder took over in a worse position and kept us up - Bryan got us relegated. Grant realised that he wasn''t cut out to be a manager and had the good grace to bow out - Gunn wasn''t cut out to be a manager but carried on, bought loads of players who got us stuffed 7-1 at home and stood on the side clueless. Why this campaign to try to make it look like he was actually OK when he just wasn''t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 9, 2009 Maric is a poor player based on 1 game... ok then.. its Mathieu Lois Jean all over again then! jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destort 0 Posted September 10, 2009 [quote user="Row D Seat 7"]Maric - Poor player Askou - Tidy player Holt - Good player, might be lost at a higher level though. Whaley - Very poor Nelson - Still unsure, definately a League 1 player Tudor Jones - Not impressed so far. Wiggins - Not seen him play. Gill - Poor Hughes - Brings class to the team. McVeigh - Good so far, but will his good form remain?! Alnwick - Good keeper, but no longer our player. Theo - Could be our worst ever keeper. People talk about Gunn''s signings being great and how we owe him much thanks for those signings BUT i''m only happy with 3/4 of them. 3/4 out of 12 signings isn''t great actually. Just because Gunn bought in 12 players doesn''t mean all those 12 are good players, far from it. Gunn bought a League One side in the summer, you need a league one side with several championship players in it, we don''t have that.[/quote] Could be our worst goalkeeper ever?I cannot believe some of the rubbish on these boards some times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair dinkum 0 Posted September 11, 2009 [quote user="Destort"][quote user="Row D Seat 7"]Maric - Poor player Askou - Tidy player Holt - Good player, might be lost at a higher level though. Whaley - Very poor Nelson - Still unsure, definately a League 1 player Tudor Jones - Not impressed so far. Wiggins - Not seen him play. Gill - Poor Hughes - Brings class to the team. McVeigh - Good so far, but will his good form remain?! Alnwick - Good keeper, but no longer our player. Theo - Could be our worst ever keeper. People talk about Gunn''s signings being great and how we owe him much thanks for those signings BUT i''m only happy with 3/4 of them. 3/4 out of 12 signings isn''t great actually. Just because Gunn bought in 12 players doesn''t mean all those 12 are good players, far from it. Gunn bought a League One side in the summer, you need a league one side with several championship players in it, we don''t have that.[/quote] Could be our worst goalkeeper ever?I cannot believe some of the rubbish on these boards some times.[/quote]Indeed - and on the basis of one league app... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Well the fact that Theo said after the 7-1 hammering "Yeah that was probably ONE of my worst games" alarmed me slightly. He definately didn''t perform like someone who knew his role - the same could be said for his then manager, Bryan Gunn who at 5-0 must have been wondering what the F to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites