Account Closed 0 Posted May 31, 2009 Do you recall Peter Grants comments about - Not being able to recruit players for one reason or other?Having to resort to Scottish rejects was the root cause of his failure - Identifying the best of who you can afford is not the biggest stumbling block it is more of ‘manager appeal’.An overlooked impediment for new managers is that the promising prospective players will rightly choose to join teams with managers who have respect and credence established in the football fraternity as quite rightly they believe their careers will have a better chance of advancing. It just doesn’t help knowing Sir Alex or anyone one else of similar high blown stature, it’s more about if they know you.This is a good appointment for Brian, he has stepped on the first rung of the managerial ladder and can only get better with experience but at what cost to his beloved team? - Only time will tell and then it may well be too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james norwich 0 Posted May 31, 2009 Gunn has come in with no experience which is acceptable at division 3 level to see if he has what it takes to become a good manager. If we were a championship club looking to finish in the top 8 then he would be boxing above his weight. To be continued... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 31, 2009 Cheap Jocks= Failure! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="Getalife"]Do you recall Peter Grants comments about - Not being able to recruit players for one reason or other?Having to resort to Scottish rejects was the root cause of his failure - Identifying the best of who you can afford is not the biggest stumbling block it is more of ‘manager appeal’.An overlooked impediment for new managers is that the promising prospective players will rightly choose to join teams with managers who have respect and credence established in the football fraternity as quite rightly they believe their careers will have a better chance of advancing. It just doesn’t help knowing Sir Alex or anyone one else of similar high blown stature, it’s more about if they know you.This is a good appointment for Brian, he has stepped on the first rung of the managerial ladder and can only get better with experience but at what cost to his beloved team? - Only time will tell and then it may well be too late.[/quote]Explain to me how he has shown any similarities with Peter Grants player recruitment? He has signed one player so far, that player is an absolute gem. He cant sign anymore players until 1st July unless they are officially free agents already, which wouldnt give him much choice. Why dont you just wait until the first week of July to decide whether or not he has similarities with Grant. I would rather he be like Grant than Roeder, at least we owned Grants squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T.[/quote]Sir Alex was never cheap...........Tw*t! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="ryan85k"] [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T.[/quote]Sir Alex was never cheap...........Tw*t![/quote]Lol, were getting on in the other thread now, should we agree to disagree in this one as well? Im still drinking that coffee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARY CHARGE 0 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="Getalife"]Do you recall Peter Grants comments about - Not being able to recruit players for one reason or other?Having to resort to Scottish rejects was the root cause of his failure - Identifying the best of who you can afford is not the biggest stumbling block it is more of ‘manager appeal’.An overlooked impediment for new managers is that the promising prospective players will rightly choose to join teams with managers who have respect and credence established in the football fraternity as quite rightly they believe their careers will have a better chance of advancing. It just doesn’t help knowing Sir Alex or anyone one else of similar high blown stature, it’s more about if they know you.This is a good appointment for Brian, he has stepped on the first rung of the managerial ladder and can only get better with experience but at what cost to his beloved team? - Only time will tell and then it may well be too late.[/quote]Explain to me how he has shown any similarities with Peter Grants player recruitment? He has signed one player so far, that player is an absolute gem. He cant sign anymore players until 1st July unless they are officially free agents already, which wouldnt give him much choice. Why dont you just wait until the first week of July to decide whether or not he has similarities with Grant. I would rather he be like Grant than Roeder, at least we owned Grants squad.[/quote]Good point!! grant was a bad manager of players! but Gunn was roeders chief scout, so he has to take blame for some of the mess! i just hope he comes up with the goods! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="ryan85k"] [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T.[/quote]Sir Alex was never cheap...........Tw*t![/quote]Lol, were getting on in the other thread now, should we agree to disagree in this one as well? Im still drinking that coffee.[/quote]Okey doki Ryan, agreed.[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.T.B.C 1 Posted May 31, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Cheap jocks like Ross Mcormack who cost 125k. I would have a few of them.And trying to say Gunn''s policy is the same as Grants is laughable. He hasn''t bought anyone for a start and Grant had a hell of a lot more money that Gunn will. Unless your a club with rich owners, the transfers are slowly receading as clubs are tightning the belts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Account Closed 0 Posted July 7, 2009 From this old post..................................... Getalife Do you recall Peter Grants comments about - Not being able to recruit players for one reason or other?Having to resort to Scottish rejects was the root cause of his failure - Identifying the best of who you can afford is not the biggest stumbling block it is more of ‘manager appeal’.An overlooked impediment for new managers is that the promising prospective players will rightly choose to join teams with managers who have respect and credence established in the football fraternity as quite rightly they believe their careers will have a better chance of advancing. It just doesn’t help knowing Sir Alex or anyone one else of similar high blown stature, it’s more about if they know you........................... JuanVelasco Why dont you just wait until the first week of July to decide whether or not he has similarities with Grant. ...............Now that July has arrived has the hard line supporters mood changed for the better or not with respect to optimism and expectations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy_Bones 444 Posted July 7, 2009 [quote user="CANARYCHARGE"]Gunn was roeders chief scout, so he has to take blame for some of the mess![/quote]Why?If Gunn suggested players and these suggestions were ignored by Roeder (as we are lead to believe happened in a few cases such as Gow) - how is that Gunn''s fault?Even if Gunn had recommended a total pile of crap, it was Roeder''s responsibility to actually take a look and make the decision based on this recommendation, and if he still went ahead and signed a poor player, that says more about his managerial ability, than Gunn''s scouting ability.The buck stops with the manager - simple as. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Has the message board software just unwittingly revealed Juan Velasco as a certain ryan85k....[quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="ryan85k"] [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T.[/quote]Sir Alex was never cheap...........Tw*t![/quote]Lol, were getting on in the other thread now, should we agree to disagree in this one as well? Im still drinking that coffee.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Well that was pretty much plain to see anyway. I thought everyone knew that Juan was Ryan?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 335 Posted July 7, 2009 [quote user="St Cluck"]Has the message board software just unwittingly revealed Juan Velasco as a certain ryan85k....[quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="ryan85k"] [quote user="First Wizard"]Cheap Jocks= Failure![/quote]Yeah because Preston really messed up when they appointed th inexperienced David Moyes didnt they? and that Alex Ferguson, terrible manager for the first couple of years at United werent he? but oh yeah...... there Scottish so we have to put them down, because were all English and were better than everybody else? TW*T.[/quote]Sir Alex was never cheap...........Tw*t![/quote]Lol, were getting on in the other thread now, should we agree to disagree in this one as well? Im still drinking that coffee.[/quote][/quote] or that you are cluck?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
