ricky knight 0 Posted November 1, 2008 in the last week old harry has proved a new manager with a postitive attitude, belief, man management skills, motivation can turn a under achieving squad round without the transfer window, a lesson for NCFC perhaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Yes indeed Ricky - if it boiled down to a case of underfunding for a new & decent manager I''d rather see Lee Clark have a shout.Roeder will take us down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkNR9 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="shyster"]Yes indeed Ricky - if it boiled down to a case of underfunding for a new & decent manager I''d rather see Lee Clark have a shout.Roeder will take us down.[/quote]Not ''will'', Shyster, but ''is''. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Smith 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Seems you''ve forgotten the 13 game unbeaten run then. Perhaps Harry is having his 13 game unbeaten run right now? Trying to compare the situation at White Hart Lane to Carrow Road is somewhat laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkNR9 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="Mark Smith"]Seems you''ve forgotten the 13 game unbeaten run then. Perhaps Harry is having his 13 game unbeaten run right now? Trying to compare the situation at White Hart Lane to Carrow Road is somewhat laughable.[/quote]That was then - a long time ago - and this is now. We''re meant to be going forward. We''re not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Didnt Roeder take over from Redknapp at WHU and changed Redknapps team from a performing team into an underperforming team just ask some of the Hammers supporters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="Mark Smith"]Seems you''ve forgotten the 13 game unbeaten run then. Perhaps Harry is having his 13 game unbeaten run right now? Trying to compare the situation at White Hart Lane to Carrow Road is somewhat laughable.[/quote] yes i have cause its history mate. why is spurs different under performing squad, new positive manager, postive man managers come at all levels pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGG&YPOS 0 Posted November 1, 2008 They were taking about him on Football Focus today and the main point they brought up was interesting by saying that he played players in their best positions and told them to play the way thay play best and not play them out of position, sounds familiar. This is what we do not seem to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="shyster"]Yes indeed Ricky - if it boiled down to a case of underfunding for a new & decent manager I''d rather see Lee Clark have a shout.Roeder will take us down.[/quote]I wouldn''t! Clarke is Roeders yes man! theres no way Roeders Ego would allow him to appoint a pretender to the throne is there.. If roeder goes then Clarke can sod off too.jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted November 1, 2008 football is a simple game, its the so called experts who complicate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="ricky knight"][quote user="Mark Smith"]Seems you''ve forgotten the 13 game unbeaten run then. Perhaps Harry is having his 13 game unbeaten run right now? Trying to compare the situation at White Hart Lane to Carrow Road is somewhat laughable.[/quote] yes i have cause its history mate. why is spurs different under performing squad, new positive manager, postive man managers come at all levels pal.[/quote]And let''s not forget the fact that Roeder has shat on and lost the respect of a few of the players that helped him with that 13 match unbeaten run since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wembley_Canary 0 Posted November 1, 2008 This is a pointless thread, Harry has a Team that are under achiveing, can you honestly say Norwich City are a team that is under achiveing when looking at the suad we have? Of course not, we are where we are because of the lack of talent we have in the squad and the lack of money we have to improve that. It''s nothing like Harry''s Tottenham, even if we get a new manager in it wouldn''t boost this team enough to make a big difference, especially when half of our starting 11 are loaned players that don''t give a stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted November 1, 2008 You insist on talking out of your arse! The subject here is not pointless at all - Hoolahan performed at Blackpool and Lupoli performed well whilst at Derby - difference seems to be that both players had good managers who got the best out of them at the afforementioned clubs.Cease making excuses for Roeder and defending the undefendable, you''re making yourself look silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rethinking the future 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Tottenham are currently benefiting from the new manager syndrome - like most teams with a new manager, players up their work rate and try that bit harder and the first few games they always do a bit better.Lets see how Harry gets on after 10 games +. It is easy to raise your game for local derby and then for the league leaders, but wil they perform against mid table teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blofield Canary 12 Posted November 1, 2008 Roeder as you say is a most unpleasant and arogant individual who appears to be unable to manage anyone with any individuality about there game. Without wanting to go over old ground you must look at the way he removed Huckerby. Incidentally a player who would still shine in our current team. His replacement Wes Hoolahan couldn''t even get in the squad today. Lupoli, a player who likes to run at defenders and show a bit of skill, again not even on the bench on a day we play Russell up front.The evidence is pretty conclusive. Roeder has lost part of the squad already and the fans are turning on him just as they did Worthington. Todays atmosphere was pretty unpleasant towards the end of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="Rethinking the future"]Tottenham are currently benefiting from the new manager syndrome - like most teams with a new manager, players up their work rate and try that bit harder and the first few games they always do a bit better. Lets see how Harry gets on after 10 games +. It is easy to raise your game for local derby and then for the league leaders, but wil they perform against mid table teams?[/quote] erm, Bolton springs to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="West_London_Canary"]This is a pointless thread, Harry has a Team that are under achiveing, can you honestly say Norwich City are a team that is under achiveing when looking at the suad we have? Of course not, we are where we are because of the lack of talent we have in the squad and the lack of money we have to improve that. It''s nothing like Harry''s Tottenham, even if we get a new manager in it wouldn''t boost this team enough to make a big difference, especially when half of our starting 11 are loaned players that don''t give a stuff![/quote]well the percy''s keep telling us we are a good squad waiting to happen do they now concede we are garbage as said by many of us since summer window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wembley_Canary 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="shyster"]You insist on talking out of your arse! The subject here is not pointless at all - Hoolahan performed at Blackpool and Lupoli performed well whilst at Derby - difference seems to be that both players had good managers who got the best out of them at the afforementioned clubs.Cease making excuses for Roeder and defending the undefendable, you''re making yourself look silly.[/quote]No you are the one is being made to look silly, your just far too deluded to see it, i''m not defending Roeder as such, i''m merely trying to get people to see the bigger picture!Roeder is NOT a great manager, he is NOT the man to take us to the Premiership but he and any other medicore manager we replace him with will remain helpless to push this club forward because of the dire state the club has found it''s self in, I don''t care how good a manager you may be, you can''t expect to improve a club through loan signings alone, it will never work, look at what happend to Leeds FFS.The reason why this thread is pointless is because A. We will never employ a manager of Harry''s credentialsB. It will coast us yet more money to sack Glen, something that''s hard to come by with this club right nowC. Tottenham are a club with great players who should never have been in the situation they find themselfs in now, Norwich are a club that has had to rely on 8 loan signings just to make up the numbers, that speaks for itself, we are exactly where I expected us to be before the season started.When Roeder took over the club we were almost dead and burried, we survived that season by the skin of our teeth, less than a year on with several key loan players gone from last season and 8 more medicore at best loan signings in.... what did you expect?While this Board is still here we will never move forward, why are you defending them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rethinking the future 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Ricky Knight wrote: erm, Bolton springs to mind.A better example for you to have used would have been Derby who went almost a year without a win, but Bolton only lost 1 of their first 6 games with Megson in charge and beat Man Utd in that run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote]While this Board is still here we will never move forward, why are you defending them?[/quote]Read my posts throughout this thread and point out where I''ve defended the Board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wembley_Canary 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="shyster"][quote]While this Board is still here we will never move forward, why are you defending them?[/quote]Read my posts throughout this thread and point out where I''ve defended the Board.[/quote]But you think we should vent our anger at Roeder, thus deflecting attention away from the biggest problem which is the board... Again you fail to see the bigger picture!At the start of the season I did wonder if people would turn against the Board for the lack of spending power to help get this club out of trouble... OR the manager for not makeing something out of nothing, looks like people are chooseing the latter which wont help this club in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted November 1, 2008 Until such a time as this club/Board is taken over we need an immediate fix in the form of a manager who can command the respect of his staff, and there are cheaper options out there that could fulfill that task.At this moment in time I would rather employ the King''s Lynn manager ffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wembley_Canary 0 Posted November 1, 2008 [quote user="shyster"]Until such a time as this club/Board is taken over we need an immediate fix in the form of a manager who can command the respect of his staff, and there are cheaper options out there that could fulfill that task.At this moment in time I would rather employ the King''s Lynn manager ffs.[/quote] Yet again you fail to see the bigger picture, "untill such a time" what time will that be then eh? When were in League one or just before it happens? Now is the bloody time to make our feelings known, that this clubs needs to move on and Delia and Co must sell up, clearly they still haven''t quite got the message.Replaceing Glen Roeder isn''t an immediate fix if the manger we replace him with is as much of a no hoper as he is, by the way who realistically have you got in mind to replace him, should the board choose to bust the bank yet again just to sack him?.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites