Mello Yello 2,572 Posted August 12, 2023 KIck-off delayed until 13.00 Arsenal v Forest.....due to the wonders of modern technology.... "Can you digital".....by the Mock Turnstiles..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: KIck-off delayed until 13.00 Arsenal v Forest.....due to the wonders of modern technology.... "Can you digital".....by the Mock Turnstiles..... That will be interesting, especially with the new stoppage times, they have to stop transmitting live coverage at 15:00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Greavsy said: they have to stop transmitting live coverage at 15:00. 14:45 is where the blackout starts on Saturdays. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Google Bot said: 14:45 is where the blackout starts on Saturdays. That makes it even tighter then!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted August 12, 2023 Sky to move all early kickoffs to 8:30am just to be safe lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Greavsy said: That makes it even tighter then! Would be very interesting if there's a long stoppage in either half to see what happens. I'm most curious whether officials would drop a few minutes off the calculated time to appease Sky, you wouldn't want it to occur, but I wouldn't rule it out either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Google Bot said: Would be very interesting if there's a long stoppage in either half to see what happens. I'm most curious whether officials would drop a few minutes off the calculated time to appease Sky, you wouldn't want it to occur, but I wouldn't rule it out either. I had the same thought too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Google Bot said: Would be very interesting if there's a long stoppage in either half to see what happens. I'm most curious whether officials would drop a few minutes off the calculated time to appease Sky, you wouldn't want it to occur, but I wouldn't rule it out either. It's BT ....no my bad, they now call it TNT (but it's BT Sport in old money).... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 943 Posted August 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Google Bot said: 14:45 is where the blackout starts on Saturdays. Can’t believe it’s even a thing anymore. It’s like football is stuck in the 70’s for not showing 3pm kick offs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said: Can’t believe it’s even a thing anymore. It’s like football is stuck in the 70’s for not showing 3pm kick offs The clubs voted to keep it in, after Covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 943 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Greavsy said: The clubs voted to keep it in, after Covid. That’s up to them but all the old arguments and justification for it is pretty null and void at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, By Hook or Ian crook said: That’s up to them but all the old arguments and justification for it is pretty null and void at this point I think the argument is to protect the lower leagues attendances. The assumption being people would stay in to watch higher ranked matches on the tele at 3pm than go to lower local teams, and support them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Greavsy said: The assumption being people would stay in to watch higher ranked matches on the tele at 3pm than go to lower local teams, and support them. It's also doing people out of watching live games on their BT/Sky subscriptions if they go to games themselves. So it would undermine the value their own viewers get too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haus 267 Posted August 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Greavsy said: I think the argument is to protect the lower leagues attendances. The assumption being people would stay in to watch higher ranked matches on the tele at 3pm than go to lower local teams, and support them. Not if you supported a lower league side though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Google Bot said: It's also doing people out of watching live games on their BT/Sky subscriptions if they go to games themselves. So it would undermine the value their own viewers get too. theoretically maybe. But the fact that, as an example, they have scheduled a match when the Women's World cup final is on would indicate that isnt in their thought process  The logic applies for any matches. I support Norwich, but pay for both Sky and TNT, but I usually have to miss part of a live TV match when attending in person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 943 Posted August 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Greavsy said: I think the argument is to protect the lower leagues attendances. The assumption being people would stay in to watch higher ranked matches on the tele at 3pm than go to lower local teams, and support them. Would be a valid argument if football wasn’t on day of the week now anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, By Hook or Ian crook said: Would be a valid argument if football wasn’t on day of the week now anyway. Agreed - Sky & TNT have never put fans first. But the 3pm rule can make them feel as if they are! Smoke and mirrors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Greavsy said: theoretically maybe. But the fact that, as an example, they have scheduled a match when the Women's World cup final is on would indicate that isnt in their thought process  I'm saying that the established rule prevents them from undermining customers too. So it's not something everyone would like to see abolished.  Personally, I like that live matches are sandwiched around the 3pm kickoffs as it's great if you're going to a match and going to a pub before or after. So yes, it's antiquated, but there's more to it for me than just protecting lower league attendances. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,149 Posted August 12, 2023 Try telling Wroxham, Dereham, King's Lynn to name a few that 3.00 tv games wouldn't hurt them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haus 267 Posted August 12, 2023 So what happens at 14:45 ? This game is going to go past it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Haus said: So what happens at 14:45 ? This game is going to go past it You'd imagine that they've already got some kind of waiver due to it being outside of their control and no intention to broadcast live during those times? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Google Bot said: You'd imagine that they've already got some kind of waiver due to it being outside of their control and no intention to broadcast live during those times? There was a game recently that had a delayed start, and if I recall correctly it was stated that delay couldnt be pushed back any further due to the 3pm (2.45) curfew. Cant remember who it was now. Possibly one where they were clearing a pitch following a heavy down pour or rain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,014 Posted August 12, 2023 It's a daft rule. I find it hard to believe a true supporter of a non league game wouldn't turn up if Arsenal were on live at 3pm. It's even more daft when the likes of Canaries TV will let you watch the game at 3pm for a tenner, cheaper than a supporter who makes the effort to actually be there in the stadium and whilst lower league football is on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: It's even more daft when the likes of Canaries TV will let you watch the game at 3pm for a tenner, cheaper than a supporter who makes the effort to actually be there in the stadium and whilst lower league football is on. That's only available to oversea customers, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: It's a daft rule. I find it hard to believe a true supporter of a non league game wouldn't turn up if Arsenal were on live at 3pm. It's even more daft when the likes of Canaries TV will let you watch the game at 3pm for a tenner, cheaper than a supporter who makes the effort to actually be there in the stadium and whilst lower league football is on. Its the big hitting Sky / TNT appeasing the lower league teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,014 Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Google Bot said: That's only available to oversea customers, though. No it's available to anyone with a VPN isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,645 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Capt. Pants said: No it's available to anyone with a VPN isn't it? Because the VPN fools the server to believing you are out of the UK. Not sure if you can subscribe to Canaries TV with a UK bank account - ive never tried.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,935 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Capt. Pants said: No it's available to anyone with a VPN isn't it? No, it's very much not available to those with VPN, you get the service terminated if caught using one as it's used to spoof your geolocation. From https://www.canaries.co.uk/canariestvtacs 8. Suspension and Termination 8.1. We may suspend or terminate your access to all or part of Canaries TV at any time if: 8.1.6. You are proved to be using a VPN to access the platform and in each case no refund will be provided. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haus 267 Posted August 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Google Bot said: No, it's very much not available to those with VPN, you get the service terminated if caught using one as it's used to spoof your geolocation. From https://www.canaries.co.uk/canariestvtacs 8. Suspension and Termination 8.1. We may suspend or terminate your access to all or part of Canaries TV at any time if: 8.1.6. You are proved to be using a VPN to access the platform and in each case no refund will be provided. Hard to prove tbh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,014 Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Greavsy said: Because the VPN fools the server to believing you are out of the UK. Not sure if you can subscribe to Canaries TV with a UK bank account - ive never tried.  Yes I realise that but I bet NCFC won't care. Most people I know have a VPN because it allows them access to things like Neflix US etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites