Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 With 9 days to go it might be better to focus an ensuring the incoming Democrats can hit the ground running with getting to grips with Covid, and concentrate in clearing up the mess Trump has left behind. Criminal charges for Trump will follow, as allegations made about his activities relate to state offences, and so do not need government approval or consent. His Lord Haw Haw style social media rants have been all but blocked off. The loony righties are being rounded up by the hour, and so there is no real urgency to distract from the huge task ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,275 Posted January 11, 2021 US First Lady Melania Trump has issued a statement, saying she is "disheartened and disappointed" with events last week. But she also said she had been the victim of personal attacks since the storming of the Capitol. "I find it shameful that surrounding these tragic events there has been salacious gossip, unwarranted personal attacks, and false misleading accusations on me - from people who are looking to be relevant and have an agenda," she said. "This time is solely about healing our country and its citizens. It should not be used for personal gain." Mrs Trump thanked "the millions of Americans who supported my husband and me over the past four years and shown the incredible impact of the American spirit". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 "unwarranted personal attacks, and false misleading accusations" she must be grateful that her husband has never engaged in such behaviour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted January 11, 2021 If ever an act justified impeachment, it is the sitting president inciting a mob to attempt an insurrection at the very seat of government. While I understand that this will undoubtedly infuriate Trump's die-hard deplorables, and potentially encourage them to riot, it seems to me far more dangerous in the long-term to let this act pass without the president being held to account. The US cannot allow their justiice system to be held to ransom by threats of violence from a lawless mob. And certainly no president can be allowed to make use of such a lawless mob in order to subvert the democratic process. For the sake of continued democratic government I can see no other option but to impeach the president if the Republican Party continues to refuse to remove him from office. There simply have to be substantive consequences delivered to a president who has behaved in the way Trump has done. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Like I have commented several times the GOP / Republicans could have stopped Trump if they wanted to. They could have dropped him from the ticket immediately before his election, they could have censured him for denying Congress authority over the budget, they could have voted to at least hear evidence at the impeachment trial, they could vote to censure him now. That they have done none of these things demonstrates that they do not want to stop him, however the so called moderate GOP Senators have an out when it comes to a second impeachment trial. The 2/3 vote to convict is 2/3 of those “present” so if they still can’t bring themselves to vote against the traitor they can just stay away for that day. Edited January 11, 2021 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Surfer said: Like I have commented several times the GOP / Republicans could have stopped Trump if they wanted to. They could have dropped him from the ticket immediately before his election, they could have censured him for denying Congress authority over the budget, they could have voted to at least hear evidence at the impeachment trial, they could vote to censure him now. That they have done none of these things demonstrates that they do not want to stop him, however the so called moderate GOP Senators have an out when it comes to a second impeachment trial. The 2/3 vote to convict is 2/3 of those “present” so if they still can’t bring themselves to vote against the traitor they can just stay away for that day. But hasn't the GOP been the party of fear for a long time now? Many urban areas are drifting further away from their selfish politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 righties being thrown off a plane do sing along 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 11, 2021 Yes, but at the same time the GOP have been getting stronger in the more rural areas. Voter suppression and gerrymandering constituency boundaries compensating for loss of actual support for their policies. A ruthless bunch of spineless cowards sums them up nicely, Oh and part of the Big Lie is that the Democratic Party has become a front for Communists so you must vote GOP to save America. This lie is continuing even with GOP senators who have backed off the stolen election propaganda. The parallels with UKIP / Tories and Brexit are very clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted January 11, 2021 CNN just announced an article of impeachment has been formally introduced to the house 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, horsefly said: CNN just announced an article of impeachment has been formally introduced to the house But, but, what we need now is unity. 🤨😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, horsefly said: CNN just announced an article of impeachment has been formally introduced to the house https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/jan/11/joe-biden-donald-trump-impeachment-capitol-mike-pence-nancy-pelosi-coronavirus-covid-live-updates 🎶Trumpy the Elephant packed his trunk' and said goodbye to the caucas and off he fled with Mrs Trmpity Trump far far away *🎶 * Florida, actually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,215 Posted January 11, 2021 This really does look like the end of a Scorsese movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 11, 2021 So no need to investigate then eh Republicans? Afraid of what we might find out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Surfer said: So no need to investigate then eh Republicans? Afraid of what we might find out? Shame, if only we had video footage the whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted January 11, 2021 10 hours ago, SHRIMPER said: An American saying it as it is. Cheers for finding it Shrimper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted January 11, 2021 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/capitol-riot-jacob-angeli-chansley-qanon-trump-b1785089.html Sorry it's only a link, but worth a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) The FBI have now put out a warning that all 50 state capitals (their government buildings) are being targeted for violent right-wing protests next week. Edited January 11, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 this time it isn't a film ..............this time it is for real, righties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,275 Posted January 11, 2021 American Polls are not very accurate I am sure it’s far worse than this Trump's approval rating 'at record low' after riot A majority of voters say Trump should resign, according to a new opinion poll from Quinnipiac University, with 56% respondents saying that they hold Trump responsible for the riot on Capitol Hill. The poll also found that Trump's approval rating has dropped 11% since last month. He is now at an all-time low of 33% favourable and 60% unfavourable, according to the survey. The survey of 1,239 registered voters was conducted from 7 to 10 January. A separate poll from Politico and Morning Consult also found last week that Trump's ratings appear to have fallen to the lowest point of his entire presidency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,580 Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Well b back said: American Polls are not very accurate I am sure it’s far worse than this Trump's approval rating 'at record low' after riot A majority of voters say Trump should resign, according to a new opinion poll from Quinnipiac University, with 56% respondents saying that they hold Trump responsible for the riot on Capitol Hill. The poll also found that Trump's approval rating has dropped 11% since last month. He is now at an all-time low of 33% favourable and 60% unfavourable, according to the survey. The survey of 1,239 registered voters was conducted from 7 to 10 January. A separate poll from Politico and Morning Consult also found last week that Trump's ratings appear to have fallen to the lowest point of his entire presidency. I think it is true that since this rating came in Trump is the only US president whose approval rating never once reached 50 per cent, and yet he claims to find it unbelievable that more people voted for Biden than for him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,275 Posted January 11, 2021 Jools mate Ruddi hits the headlines The New York State Bar Association is launching an inquiry into President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. The inquiry will determine whether Giuliani should be removed from the membership rolls of the country's largest voluntary state bar association. In a statement on Monday, the NYSBA "strongly condemned" the president and those who had aided his efforts to overturn the election. Mere hours before the invasion of the US Capitol, Giuliani told the assembled mob of Trump supporters: “Let’s have trial by combat.” Citing these words and the "hundreds of complaints" it had received about Giuliani's "baseless" legal efforts to contest Joe Biden's election victory, the NYSBA said the inquiry would give him an opportunity to explain himself. "This decision is historic for NYSBA, and we have not made it lightly," the statement concludes. "We cannot stand idly by and allow those intent on rending the fabric of our democracy to go unchecked." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 11, 2021 So all thats left is the self pardon which constitutionally may not be legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,275 Posted January 11, 2021 I thought this only happened to the Egyptian Pharaohs, their memories eradicated. New push to prevent 'benches or schools' having Trump's name Congresswoman Linda Sanchez says she is "working on a bill that would mean that nothing - not even a bench, no airport, no highway, no school - nothing - ever bear the name" of President Donald Trump. Sanchez - a Democrat from California - was among the lawmakers under siege at the US Capitol last Wednesday. In her own retelling, she and her staff barricaded themselves inside their office rooms and grabbed baseball bats - from her time as a player on the Congressional Women's Softball team - to protect themselves from the mob. “I don't believe that a seditious occupant of the White House should ever have anything named after him," said Sanchez. "I don't think that he deserves any of the benefits that are conferred on prior presidents.” Her Democratic colleague Joaquin Castro is introducing similar legislation to prevent the Trump name going up on any federal buildings or property. Explaining his decision, Castro said: "Let us learn from our past. Donald Trump should never become a future generation’s confederate symbol." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, horsefly said: The FBI have now put out a warning that all 50 state capitals (their government buildings) are being targeted for violent right-wing protests next week. great a chance to round up some of the dumbest fckwits the US has produced, in one quick action it will increase the number if idiots called Billy Bob held in US prisons, by tenfold and keep the morgues busy for a few weeks sad old men who haven't got over dressing up - and cannot differentiate between video games and real life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bill said: great a chance to round up some of the dumbest fckwits the US has produced, in one quick action it will increase the number if idiots called Billy Bob held in US prisons, by tenfold and keep the morgues busy for a few weeks sad old men who haven't got over dressing up - and cannot differentiate between video games and real life They could fire warning shots through their heads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: They could fire shots through their heads. that reads better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted January 12, 2021 Worth a read. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549?hootPostID=155d3bcf48779fb54d17bbdc758117cd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,215 Posted January 12, 2021 On 10/01/2021 at 08:38, A Load of Squit said: 🤣 OMG, American lawyers! https://www.mediaite.com/crime/lawyers-for-maga-fan-who-stole-pelosis-lectern-claim-their-client-is-actually-pro-law-enforcement-was-looting-in-capitol-to-witness-history/ The two lawyers representing Adam Johnson, the MAGA fan infamously photographed happily smiling while stealing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s lectern, claimed that, despite evidence to the contrary, their client is actually “pro-law enforcement” and was trespassing in the Capitol to “witness a little bit of history” while, apparently, also looting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Self-proclaimed righty warrior has eaten for days, say his Mum whom he lives with.....the reason 'because the detention facility won't feed him all organic food' it is not known whether this 'state sponsored torture' has caused him to burst into tears as it did another one of these numpties, when told that climbing into Capitol Hill did not entitle him to climb aboard a flight home Meanwhile decent folk continue the search (as helped by dimwitted righties) for other anti democratic rioters - as the latter posted up so much evidence of their own crimes 😋 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9135785/Hacker-archives-Parlers-deleted-posts-photos-videos.html "A hacker claims to have archived all of Parler's deleted posts and says they provide 'very incriminating' evidence in the wake of the deadly mob attack at the US Capitol. " Edited January 12, 2021 by Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted January 12, 2021 Another example of the stupidity of a self-declared deplorable insurrectionist. At least he'll have plenty of customers for his hairdressing skills when he's serving time. https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/01/11/kristopher-dreww/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites