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Agree with most of that, but would say Wednesday were able to pick balls out of defence better with Barnes up top as he's not as fast or as good at pressing as Sargent is. Gibbs is possibly the nearest one we've got in terms of being able to press very hard from the front and generally put pressure on folks, but at that point there's more than one potential way of skinning the cat. I think I could see what Wagner had in mind, but it was unlucky that Gibbs pinged a quad less than five minutes later so we'll never know how effective it would have been.

I really suspect you might not have seen the property prices there. Lots of new apartment blocks going up in the city centre, and the prices are pretty steep!

Where I get irritated is when some teams get their full names and others don't when describing the same match. We had one where I saw "Norwich vs. Ipswich Town". If you're going to use their full name, be consistent, please. And if you're playing a team from a town/city with more than one team and the name of the town/city is in both clubs, meaning their full name has to be used, use ours too. Obviously, Norwich vs. Bristol/Sheffield is awkward as Bristol and Sheffield have two clubs with the city in their name. And if it's a league fixture list, then as far as I'm concerned it should be full names only, please. EDIT: If it's match commentary, then sure, be more varied and less repetitive. We have nicknames and colours for a reason.

Agree with the OP. If you'd offered a point before the game I wouldn't have grumbled as Sheffield Wednesday have improved a lot since Röhr came in as manager, but the way the game panned out, it is one of those draws that felt a bit like a defeat though. Could have been out of sight before Sargent came off, and that was really bad luck that the substitution designed to keep pressing them into trouble went off (after all, Barnes isn't really fast enough or got the gas tank that Gibbs has) injured after two minutes. The criticism that I agree is justified was that Duffy wasn't brought on earlier to stiffen the defence against set pieces.

Jesus, two corners, two goals. Suddenly our old set-piece weaknesses strike back with a vengeance. A Hanley or a Duffy, and we'd be far better in the air.

Not at all,. if your style relies on a very mobile, hard-working player to press defenders into rushing balls and turning it over, you need someone who's got the gas tank to do it. Gibbs is definitely one of those. Oh, ****.

Think the Gibbs injury really threw the Plan A out - I'm sure he was put on to chase absolutely everything up top.

Well, this aged bloody well, didn't it?

Workrate, I reckon. van Hooijdonk's not great at pressing, Gibbs has a serious gas tank on him.

Need to stop Bannan sooner rather than later. We all know he's still got class.

This guy? 😉 Sydney van Hooijdonk - Wikipedia

Seeing the surname of their goalie got me thinking of this classic piece of telly....well, the music.

Doesn't matter how you do it, just keep punching them. Don't sit off. That said, other results look good for us at the moment, so all the more reason to keep pushing, punching, pressing....

Oh, come on - if you've got an opponent rocking you keep punching them.

Corned beef hash, when allowed to sit in the fridge for a few days in a sealed container, is glorious comfort food when done right. 🙂 I forgot to get the ****ing pickled beetroot in though.

That was @Feedthewolf, not me.

That last paragraph is a good summary and I'd say the most obvious improvement in our game is our use of set-pieces, particularly corners. We've scored some pretty good ones - including that clever one against Leicester whereas before it was often lobbing them in and hoping the big man, usually Hanley, put a header over. That is when Buendia - as much as we all loved him - wasn't actually ****ing allergic to beating the first man/near stick. Even then, we've scored a couple of near-post flicks this season, Gibson against Liverpool and Sorensen against Rotherham spring instantly to mind.

True that vegan farming kills animals too, but such techniques still kill far fewer animals than animal farming, that's been debunked a fair few times. DEBUNKED: Do vegans kill more animals through crop deaths? — Surge | Creative Non-Profit for Animal Rights (surgeactivism.org) I do agree that some of the animals killed are particularly useful and bees are probably the main case in point, but then again, much of the world's production of corn and soy is as animal feed too.

Dunno here, as much as I like a bit of rip-taking I must say I'm a little queasy of aiming at their looks considering one of theirs pot-shotted at Westy when preparing for that half-marathon. Stupidity and such strikes me as fair game though - but I'm just a bit hesitant re. the looks side of things.

I think we'll be agreeing to disagree there then. It might not be anywhere near as pretty to watch, but it got us a deserved point against a very much in-form team at the time whilst stifling their quick interplay. If we can't control the ball, control the space in which it is played.

Agree with the notion that the strikers didn't suit his preferred game, but the Southampton match was one we got a point from, and during a period when Southampton were absolutely flying, to boot. Yet they hardly created much of note against us - they did score but there were a couple of mistakes in that build-up, and even then we came back well, got the equaliser and could have pinched it at the death - as could they. Wagner was doing a fair bit of experimenting - Sara went deeper, Placheta went left-back, Kenny went to left centre-half against Bristol (and that starting line-up got some very quizzical responses in that match thread then Idah hit the late, late winner), Sara then became an inverted winger and looked far more dangerous there than he did at #10. If you're saying Wagner was unsuccessful in cobbling together a plan B then I agree with you until that Southampton game. However if you build a team that defends from the front like Wagner does and what Sargent gives you, then it's a real problem if the reserve strikers haven't got the same workrate Sargent has. Idah's not lazy, but he's not in Sargent's league, workwise.

That's the thing, they also had a fair hiccup, but they also had new players coming in during the window - Sarmiento and Moore, and both have been reasonable contributors. On top of that, they bought Al-Hamadi who's bagged a couple. We got SvH in, and he's not really done much yet, and that's being generous. Ipswich struggled, but then got some new players in and rediscovered form. Wagner needed players to come back from injury as he didn't get any that hit the ground running, and had that skid outside the transfer window so couldn't really get much fresh blood in either. I agree that he could have set the team up more circumspect (indeed he did at home to Southampton, much to the irritation of many) during that period, but I'm simply saying that periods of poor form will happen when the best player's out.

Didn't Ipswich show something close to relegation form after a few injuries, but then corrected it with some loan signings?

Would need a special brand of idiocy to come up with that one on the day.

Were they born that dense or did it come with practice?