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  1. Kathy, I think your article is spot on. The big difference between the two sides on Sunday was simple. One team came to do the job they were employed to do, the other team (for the most part) came to make up the numbers. I think in some circles it''s called football. I always thought the general idea behind football was that you passed the ball between you and your team mates trying your damndest to make sure the opposition didn''t get it, with the intention of eventually popping it in the goal that your opponent is defending. I''d like to point out to those City players on Sunday who couldn''t quite work out which was which - your team mates are the ones who were wearing yellow jerseys. And when the players in the blue jerseys have the ball you''re supposed to try and get it back. "load of" since you seem to be happy to knock the words that Kathy had written, would you be prepared to give us your view of what you saw on Sunday please. And perhaps a little insight into why you think this whole thing can be turned around. Perhaps I''ll get out of the shower in the morning and realise it''s all been one horrendously long dream.
  2. Would we seriously have to get somebody in if he were removed? Why not simply appoint a caretaker until the end of the season? If Worthy is forced to leave or resigns, why not let David Williams take the helm and see if he can at least get them playing again.
  3. I have to say that I watched the debacle Sunday, well 90% of it - the 10% I lost to doing the household ironing was more enjoyable. Ignoring that I wanted to post the major observation that I had of the game. Posters have maligned the defense for many of our defeats this season and also maligned the attack for not putting away what few chances they have, but what Sunday''s game really exposed was the lack of quality and effort in midfield. You can''t have a four man midfield where only one of the four turns up to play. I was always under the impression that the midfield is the engine room of your football team - it was when I played there. But what do we see from the current Canaries? 1. When in possession the maxim "pass and move" seems to work well. Just watch the Ipswich youngsters on Saturday and you''ll see what I mean. On the other hand when City had the ball it was very much a case of get rid of it to the front blokes as quick as you can even if it''s an appalling pass forward. What happened to the short pass to one of your team-mates and then move into space to receive the return pass? 2. When NOT in possession, press the opposition. How many times did you see Ipswich with the ball and City players dropping off them and gving them space? One classic example for one of Curries shots, when both Safri and Etuhu (I think) ended up in the six yard box when the Ipswich guy was outside the 18 yard box. Both of these aspects game much from the much vaunted work ethic that Worthy prizes so highly but where were they on Sunday? The engine room needs a major look at with players prepared to work their balls off and players who have the wherewithall to use the ball when they''ve got it. Of those on show only Safri fits the bill and on Sunday even he was a pale imitation of the player on show in the Premiership. If the pros can''t cut it in the side, which they don''t appear to, then drop them and bring in the youngsters who have the hunger to get the job done. Too many journeymen pros in there at the moment who aren''t prepared to do a "hard days work"!!
  4. CityAngel, I don''t want to drive your thread off at a tangent but the fact that lowly Crewe have knocked in three against Reading today just sums up a lot about City''s season. Clearly your experience at the open forum at Sheringham the other night suggest that the board believe that Worthington should be here at least until the end of the season. The big question is would a defeat against Ipswich persuade the fans to voice their discontent in a more forthright manner?
  5. Forget a cease-fire..... How about season long, honest and reasoned debate rather than the pathetic and perpetual mud-slinging that we have had on here for the last 6 months.
  6. If he is available on a free then I would say pick him up. Every time I''ve seen them play up here he''s been a useful right sided player to have in the team. The downside is that he''s 30. So he''s not exactly a young, up and coming prospect. More like another journeyman footballer with a slightly better pedigree. From: http://www.4thegame.com/club/glasgow-celtic-fc/player-profile/3488/didieragathe.html Didier Agathe is the kind of midfielder who likes to get forward, but can also drop back and play a deeper role if required. Since arriving at Parkhead in September 2000, Agathe has played an important part in Celtic''s successes. He played in all of the Champions League matches during the 2001/02 campaign, helped the club win the League on more than one occasion and played a crucial part in getting the Hoops to the UEFA Cup final in 2003. Martin O''Neill opted to play Agathe in an unfamiliar right-back role, which ultimately improved his performances during the 2003/04 campaign.
  7. a1, wasn''t there also a sell-on clause the Crewe put in when we bought him? That would knock the actual money we see from the Ashton sale down a little bit more. From the BBC site: " Norwich have completed the signing of Crewe striker Dean Ashton for a club-record £3m. The England Under-21 striker signed a three-and-a-half-year deal with an option of one further year after passing a medical on Monday. The cost could rise by £500,000 and there is a 20% sell-on fee." So that''s £1.4M of the £7M paid out of the calculations.
  8. I''m sorry but I''m really tired of all the vitriole directed at Ashton. Football is his job. If he wants to take a job that is what he considers to be a better prospect for him personally, what''s wrong with that. Don''t tell me that everyone of those noters who are calling him a judas, wouldn''t jack in their own jobs if somebody came after them with a better deal. Give me a break! Ashton wants the big time and I would suggest that he does not believe that he is going to get the big time at the club in it''s current state. I don''t blame him. He wants to get on. He wants to get into the England setup and staying where he is doesn''t seem like that will happen. None of us had any complaints when he was knocking those goals in against Man U and Newcastle last season. Deano I wish you the best.
  9. Funnily there''s a post on the Pompey message board on rivals.net from a Pompey fan suggesting that Ashton will sign for Wigan on Monday for £7M.
  10. Is it just for today or has the official club notice board been down for a while?
  11. ZLF, have we really short changed our midfield this season in terms of depth and quality? Last season we had: RM: Bentley, Henderson, Jonson CM: Safri, Francis, Holt, Helveg(?) LM: Huckerby, McVeigh, Brennan At the start of this season we had: RM: Marney, Henderson CM: Safri, Hughes LM: Huckerby, McVeigh, Brennan With the loan signings we now have: RM: Henderson CM: Safri, Hughes, Robinson, Etuhu LM: Huckerby, McVeigh, Brennan On that basis a glaring need at the start of the season was a natural right-sided midfield player and cover in the middle. The more glaring need now is a natural right-sided midfield player. Something Worthy hasn''t addressed at all this season preferring to continue with the "third" striker in the right sided midfield role. See when you look at it we''ve not had a ball playing midfield player alongside Safri for the last season and a half. Would you describe Francis as such. By all accounts, Hughes is Holt in all but name. Heart on the sleeve huff and puff but no exceptional ball talent (oh apart from that one pass to Ashton against Palace). Robinson and Etuhu, how do they rate against Francis?
  12. A hearty best wishes to you both. May you both have many happy moments to treasure together - especially those ones where City actually start playing how we all want them to and Nigel Worthington becomes as good as Jose Mourhino.
  13. Having watched the highlights of the Boro V Tottenham game I would have thought Boro would have been interested in a more reliable replacement for Schwarzer. There''s always Villa who don''t exactly have a keeper who sets the world alight in Sorenson.
  14. [quote user="YankeeCanary"]Thank you all for your kind words but, without wishing to be ungracious, I can hardly accept praise. This is the second year I have "borrowed" the sentiments of the author of this wonderful piece, Clement Clarke Moore. When he wrote it over two hundred years ago, being a modest and loving man, he wrote it for his wife and children. It took a friend to submit it to a newspaper some time later. [/quote] Yankee you beat me to the punch. My kids have it amongst their collection of books that come out at this time of the year. That said your plagiarism was more than worth the read.
  15. [quote user="1st Wizard"]In my opinion, Ashton has never been a total ''canary'', his body language always had a ''loaner'' style to it. I''ll say what I always say to players who don''t want to stay at my beloved City: SOD OFF!. [/quote] Sorry Wiz, can''t agree with your sentiments on this one. He is the best striker that we''ve had at the club for a long time. Words about building a team around a good spine (Worthy''s words I believe) seem somewhat mute here. Why did he look so handy in the Premiership - simply because of service. Without that service he has looked an ordinary striker. Who should we blame for the lack of service? I think the words from both Worthy and himself on the Championship suggests that he''s out of the picture. Worthy saying he''s signed a three year extension is just his way of saying you''ve got to pay for the lad. Such a waste of talent from City''s perspective.
  16. [quote user="The Great Drinkell"]From my information coming from Colney all the skillful players are being overlooked for the "Big lads" this is the biggest - no pun intended- worry about the whole set up under Worthy. I hope my information is incorrect.[/quote] Apparently that''s a worrying trend in the youth side of set-ups in Scotland as well GD. Big, fast and physical are the attributes prized rather than the ability with the ball.
  17. [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"]History is important because it is only through looking at where we have come from, how we did it and why we are where we are that we can properly assess our position and think about better ways of improving and helping our team than simply screaming SACK THE MANAGER. [/quote] Can''t disagree with your first part about history being important on the condition that lessons are learnt from what has gone before. I think that is where the arguments on history begin to fall down with the current situation. You can browse this message board and find numerous posts from less vociferous posters about how the current coaching team have not learnt from past endeavours and how this continues to be so. You ask all supporters to find better ways of helping the team. I don''t think you''ll find a single poster who comes on this message board and does not give his all for the club on matchday. That''s not to say they will then blindly accept the performance on the field if it''s a poor. Every one of the supporters who post here want the club to progress. Doing nothing other than pledging our allegiance and having blind faith in the current situation is leaving many supporters frustrated. What other ways can the supporters help? Many don''t like what they see on the field at the moment. If a decorating business comes and does a crappy job on decorating your house - do you complain? I bet you do. That decorating business either brushes (pardon the pun) up it''s act or finds it''s out of business. Football clubs can get away with selling poor product because for the most part the fan keeps coming through the turnstiles. However, those fans do manifest their discontent with the product in other ways. I think that''s what you''re seeing here. Let me ask who do you think is responsible for the poor product at the moment? And more importantly how does the club fix it? As someone else noted, if Delia''s restaurant is performing badly who does she speak to to sort it out? I bet you it''s the head man that is told to sort it out or he/she will be looking for alternative employment.
  18. [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"]Yes we are in a serious dip of form but so are Palace and they are just getting on with it and recognising that the best way, as football fans, that you can yank the club out of its slump is to show genuine passion, trust and support when the players and manager need it most.   [/quote] KP, might I ask what a supporter is supposed to do when, after giving the players and management that trust and support they go out and put together performances like the support has seen of late at Wolves, Luton, QPR, Millwall and Derby? How do you feel when someone just blatantly throws that trust and support back in your face by not performing? I think Worthy has had ample time to sort out the problems. Many of the problems have been there through the Premiership season and he either does NOT see them or simply chooses to ignore them. This has gone on to long and the normal rhetoric of hard work and effort is clearly falling on deaf ears. If they lose at Crewe with another no-show then the man should have the guts to admit he can''t fix this problem and leave.  
  19. I posted this on the official site message board but figured it also deserved some board space here too: This is a heartfelt plea to the players from a remote City fan who is dismayed at the state that his club finds itself in. Another game. Another Saturday. Another no-show by many of the great and good that now wear the yellow and green. Yet the club continues to garner THE BEST away support in the whole of the Championship. These fans pay out their hard earned cash - limited cash some may argue - to follow their heroes. But sadly their heroes aren''t behaving in a manner worthy of that mantle at the moment. All I ask of the players in these trying moments is this. When you cross that white line at the start of the match remember to do just one thing. You may not feel up to playing for the manager and staff at the moment. You may not feel like playing for your own personal pride at present. You may even feel that playing for the shirt is not where you''re currently at. But, at least, find it in your nature to have the courtesy to go out and play for the fans who are earning a mere fraction of what you yourselves earn in a week. Doing what many of the fans can only dream of doing. In any other walk of life your conduct would be considered unprofessional and you would probably be shown the door in a short space of time. In football, you are afforded more luxury than that and the person shown the door is the man in charge. If you don''t agree with what the manager is doing then find a more constructive way to take the issue to those in charge of the club. But don''t do the paying public an unjustice by not giving your all. OTBC.
  20. FB, you asked for people to make suggestions on changes given that the colours seem to be firmly posted to the Worthy mast. I would ask who is the person most responsible for first team coaching. If it''s Foley then Worthy could look at seeing if a change in his immediate staff would bring rewards. A fresh look at the training, the coaching and the style of play may help the situation. By all accounts the way the side under Williams is playing might warrant getting input from him on what changes could be made. Other than that. I don''t think a director of football will help - you get into internal arguments over who has control of how the first team plays. A sports psychologist from outside might help, but perhaps the players have had it all before. I thought Carolan was a sports fitness specialist which begs the question why we are having so many injuries.  
  21. [quote user="1st Wizard"]I feel strongly that all moderation on these boards should end. ... Unless its deflamtory or libelist chat, let it rip. [/quote] Don''t agree with you on this one Wiz. The second part of your treatise that I quoted is the crucial one as far as I can see. This is a message board that is connected to an operating business. I don''t know what disclaimers the Pink''Un or should I say Archant, have to protect them from what is posted on this site but moderation is their way of protecting themselves from any legal action due to libelist posting by a member of the posting community. With your carrowroad.net, wrathofthebarclay and so on there''s nothing at stake other than someone''s right to use a hosting service. Clearly if that webspace host deems the content of the site to flammatory that site would soon be torn down. I don''t think that''s an option for Archant. So I''m on the side of the moderators in this one. Whilst its a pain in the butt sometimes over the delay it is there for a reason. A rather serious reason. If you don''t like it there are plenty of unmoderated boards out there.
  22. FB, would you agree that something is not quite right at the club - at least judging by performances on the pitch. What''s your take on what is causing the current malaise and genuine under-performance? You know how people are, it''s just in our nature, that when things aren''t going right people look for somebody to blame. In the national team''s case when things are going RIGHT they look for people to blame. From my perspective I could argue that it''s good that the club has claimed to stand together on the current situation, but from the perspective of the more critical fans that have seen the team over the recent months it''s all too much spin and hollow words. People want action. They want to see things getting better. They don''t want to hear the usual tripe about the "rub of the green", "lady luck not on our side", "good work rate" and all that stuff. The PR machine is really working overtime and I''m not sure if they''re simply trying to convince themselves that everything is alright. Nobody has come out and said they know what''s wrong and what''s being done to fix it. Even Worthy in his post-Wolves interview couldn''t find the words to say what was wrong. It''s that lack of understanding of the problem that worries me the most. An infinite amount of keeping the faith isn''t going to help it the coaching staff and players can''t put their fingers on what is broken and how to fix it. Rabbit''s feet, four leaf clovers, horseshoes, heather sprigs and so on just doesn''t cut it.
  23. Has to be some manufacturer of Viagara for me -  "For the longer lasting experience." Or perhaps Walt Disney World. We need something to "Discover the Magic".
  24. [quote user="rainbowchaser"] i still think that we should give the team four more games to get it sorted with a target of 8 points. if we do not achieve this then we have to be radical and change not only the managment structure but the playing staff as well. meantime lets get behind the team and hope that we can get back to winning ways! [/quote] I have to ask rainbowchaser, if in those four games we don''t get the target 8 points does somebody get the boot? From my remote perspective Worthy et al have had more than enough "four game" chances to sort this mess out and nothing has happened. Lots of the normal talk about work rate and missed chances but it ain''t happening. How much more keeping the faith do the doubters have to put up with. ...
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