Mark Clattenburg..

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

Watched the highlights of the West Brom v Spurs game. There was an incident when Bale went through and the West Brom keeper came out and they collided.

Bale went down holding his KNEE and looked to be in some pain. So what happens? Straight away a loud blast of the whistle from Mr Clattenburg who sprints towards Bale to check that he''s OK.

The same Mr Clattenburg in the West Ham v Norwich game had no problem in waving play on as Alex Tettey was left writhing on the floor having been flattened by Carlton Cole who then landed on him.

I''ve talked to some refs from time to time and they tell me that since all refs are human it is unreasonable to expect each ref to be consistent with every other ref, but that all you can hope for is for each individual ref to be consistent in his/her decision making.

This was total and utter consistency from Mark Clattenburg - I''m sure the fact that Bale plays for Spurs and is a superstar, blah, blah, blah and that Tetty ''only'' plays for little old Norwich City had nothing to do with it.

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

*total and utter inconsistency*

[GJP 79]

Just a recipe for diaster really. Gareth Bale is a drama queen who revels in the drama of going down "injured" and I think it''s fair to say Clattenburg enjoys a bit of camera time.

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="Thirsty Lizard"]Watched the highlights of the West Brom v Spurs game. There was an incident when Bale went through and the West Brom keeper came out and they collided. Bale went down holding his KNEE and looked to be in some pain. So what happens? Straight away a loud blast of the whistle from Mr Clattenburg who sprints towards Bale to check that he''s OK. The same Mr Clattenburg in the West Ham v Norwich game had no problem in waving play on as Alex Tettey was left writhing on the floor having been flattened by Carlton Cole who then landed on him. I''ve talked to some refs from time to time and they tell me that since all refs are human it is unreasonable to expect each ref to be consistent with every other ref, but that all you can hope for is for each individual ref to be consistent in his/her decision making. This was total and utter consistency from Mark Clattenburg - I''m sure the fact that Bale plays for Spurs and is a superstar, blah, blah, blah and that Tetty ''only'' plays for little old Norwich City had nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Did you see Scot Parker''s non bearhug penalty.? 

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="pete_norw"]

[quote user="Thirsty Lizard"]Watched the highlights of the West Brom v Spurs game. There was an incident when Bale went through and the West Brom keeper came out and they collided. Bale went down holding his KNEE and looked to be in some pain. So what happens? Straight away a loud blast of the whistle from Mr Clattenburg who sprints towards Bale to check that he''s OK. The same Mr Clattenburg in the West Ham v Norwich game had no problem in waving play on as Alex Tettey was left writhing on the floor having been flattened by Carlton Cole who then landed on him. I''ve talked to some refs from time to time and they tell me that since all refs are human it is unreasonable to expect each ref to be consistent with every other ref, but that all you can hope for is for each individual ref to be consistent in his/her decision making. This was total and utter consistency from Mark Clattenburg - I''m sure the fact that Bale plays for Spurs and is a superstar, blah, blah, blah and that Tetty ''only'' plays for little old Norwich City had nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Did you see Scot Parker''s non bearhug penalty.? 

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sorry should have said non penalty bearhug.

[Muffles 8]

With my tin hat on...

 

It could be that Clattenberg reviewed his performance of the WH v City game, as they do on the ''Elite list'' and realised his mistake, thus  taking different action on this occasion.

 

The major problem with refereeing IS inconsistency - a debate among refs, including myself, about the Eden Hazard incident with the ball boy saw many many different views, many opting for different courses of action. How on earth can the fans and players know what''s right/wrong/expected when different refs do different things....  even more so when the same ref changes his response to similar incidents.

[ABC (A Basingstoke Canary) 26]

[quote user="Muffles"]

With my tin hat on...

 

It could be that Clattenberg reviewed his performance of the WH v City game, as they do on the ''Elite list'' and realised his mistake, thus  taking different action on this occasion.

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Agree with Muffles on this. Contrary to popular opinion from some sectors of society, referees ARE human, and therefore do have a capacity to learn - whether it be from their own mistakes or general self improvement

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

Quite so, but they don''t have to make all their mistakes when reffing us, do they?!

[Webbo118 0]

[quote user="Muffles"]

With my tin hat on...

 

It could be that Clattenberg reviewed his performance of the WH v City game, as they do on the ''Elite list'' and realised his mistake, thus  taking different action on this occasion.

 

The major problem with refereeing IS inconsistency - a debate among refs, including myself, about the Eden Hazard incident with the ball boy saw many many different views, many opting for different courses of action. How on earth can the fans and players know what''s right/wrong/expected when different refs do different things....  even more so when the same ref changes his response to similar incidents.

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Do you honestly think that''s a possibility?

[Muffles 8]

With my cynical City goggles on, I''m inclined to say it was about the bigger club and player - as with many decisions I''ve seen this year, ie penalties conceded and then not given in our favour.

 

However, as referee of many years, and experience gained, Yes I do.

 

Many a poor unfortunate Saturday and Sunday footballer in the local leagues, not to mention Ridgeons has had the dubious honour of me being in charge - suffered as a result of mistakes I''ve made yet rectified in later games.

 

While I''m not big on the Ref''s union, all backing each other etc, when you''ve spent years officiating games you do have sympathy for the top flight refs who have to make big big calls in front of  big crowds, 100s of TV cameras and TV audiences of millions. Not only do they make the call and have to stand by it and live with it, they are prevented by the FA from explaining their decisions and apologising if need be if they accept it was wrong.

I''m defending Clattenberg or other refs, merely offering a different point of view. I actually think he''s a decent ref, but is let down by his apparent arrogance.

[Muffles 8]

*not defending

[It's Character Forming 1,204]

[quote user="Muffles"]*not defending[/quote]

 

Sorry Muffles it''s known as a freudian slip.

 

I do agree that PL refs are under enormous pressure and don''t have the chance to defend themselves.  It would be great if Clattenburg has learnt from experience.  Unfortunately I think the reality is that he''ll continue to show a different attitude to smaller clubs and less well known players than he does to the bigger clubs and the celeb players. I''d be happy to be proved wrong if we see a change when he refs City next, but not holding my breath.