Grant Holt the Balance of Power

[KeelansGlove 0]

Firstly may I say Grant Holt is a Legend and If he goes after the Pain he will be considered one of our best ever.

Last year he sighned a new 3 year contract thankfully. I would suggest with an additional season of premiership income confirmed his current wages are manageable for the club, even if he were not playing.

If there are some personal reasons for him wanting a move (which I would find surprising after 3 years) the club can hold out for enough money to replace him or he can play or not , his choice

If it is because of wages the club still holds most of the cards, in 2 years time who can say how fit he would be and what he could command as a wage for a free agent at 33+

Personally I hope thay can come to some compromise within the clubs wage structure and keep him happy or worst case agree that unless the club recieve an offer of X he will be kept to his contract and that he will see this as fair and stay or go as dictated by the market.

We will see but thankfully this is neither a Rooney or RVP scenario NCFC is much better placed

[a1canary 0]

It''s an interesting one - I think at this precise moment the balance of power is with Holt because few can or want to contemplate NCFC without him. In reality, just as with Henry and Arsenal, Man U and Ronaldo, life will go on. The one thing common to both those examples is the continuity of the managerial position. So long as we keep Lambert, we''ll be fine. I just hope the two things - PL''s position and GH''s transfer request - aren''t linked. Otherwise I fear it''s Chris Sutton and Mike Walker all over again...

[Mr Brownstone 0]

Now, did this very thing not happen not happen whilst Holt was at Forest?

 

Can''t remember the specifics but I seem to recall Holt being instrumental in Forests promotion from League One, only to request a transfer (was it to Carlisle?) during summer which was rejected. He ended up in a poor run of form and being played out of position until he was sold to Shrewsbury. The rest I think we know....

[blahblahblah 2]

On the basis of what little is known, I''d suggest Grant should get himself a new agent. If he hasn''t got a club to go to, this is career suicide.

That said though, a quick flick through last seasons fixtures shows that the difference between his goals going in and no goals was 17 points. Now we would have had someone else on the end of those chances, and it''s a team game, but would Jackson / Morison have put those chances away ? Could it be said that Holts goals kept us in this league ?

[blahblahblah 2]

oh, the other thing I was going to say was that I don''t think there''s any way back for him now this is in the public domain. McNally is not the type to be held to ransom through the media.

[ricardo 8,109]

[quote user="blahblahblah"]oh, the other thing I was going to say was that I don''t think there''s any way back for him now this is in the public domain. McNally is not the type to be held to ransom through the media.[/quote]Sadly I have to agree.All good things come to an end but the club goes on forever.OTBC

[KeelansGlove 0]

I disagree Holt will be a legend forever. if it gets sorted quickly it will be soon forgotten. if he goes the pain will last but eventually history will remove the stain

[ricardo 8,109]

[quote user="KeelansGlove"]I disagree Holt will be a legend forever. if it gets sorted quickly it will be soon forgotten. if he goes the pain will last but eventually history will remove the stain[/quote]Curran, Davies, Kenning, Reeves, Fashanu, Sutton, Fox, Bellamy etc etc etcThe more things change the more they stay as they are.

[Bill 1,788]

plus ca change M Ricardo, plus ca change

" I think at this precise moment the balance of power is with Holt"eh !rather beggars belief, as the club holds his registration, has a contract with 2 more years to go that states they will decide when he turns up for training, who he trains with, who he plays against, when he plays etche has played the only card he had left and it was ''trumped'' within minutes, not much left for him now I''m afraid but to accept what the club decides

[Aggy 944]

[quote user="Mr Brownstone"]

Now, did this very thing not happen not happen whilst Holt was at Forest?

 

Can''t remember the specifics but I seem to recall Holt being instrumental in Forests promotion from League One, only to request a transfer (was it to Carlisle?) during summer which was rejected. He ended up in a poor run of form and being played out of position until he was sold to Shrewsbury. The rest I think we know....

[/quote]

Not quite. He was top scorer and player of the season the year before they got promoted. The following season he was played as a right winger, and had a fall out with Calderwood (most Forest fans will ascribe that to the fault of Calderwood rather than Holt as well, although they aren''t huge fans of calderwood by any stretch of the imagination so may be being slightly biased there!). The season Forest got promoted he had actually been loaned out to Blackpool and not played a great deal. Interest was shown from Carlisle, but Holt said he wanted to stay and fight for his placein the newly promoted Forest side. He was shipped out to Shrewsbury though anyway. He''s never played first team at Carlisle, only in his youth.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080606032359/http://www.thisisnottinghamforest.co.uk/news/Holt--I-m-ready-to-f93191352.aspx

(Might take a while to load up the link.)

[Norfolk Mustard 106]

[quote user="blahblahblah"]oh, the other thing I was going to say was that I don''t think there''s any way back for him now this is in the public domain. McNally is not the type to be held to ransom through the media.[/quote]

 

Without knowing what lies behind GH''s actions, on first take I have to agree; taking on McNally in public does seem rather ill-advised. Taking a negotiation stance of handing in a transfer request is akin to taking a giant tyre lever to crack the proverbial nut! A typical trait of Holt''s character I suppose...

[Bill 1,788]

McNally is not being held to ransome and there is no indication how he can be.The club holds his registration and there is still two years left on his contract so the whole 52 cards are in the clubs hands

[blahblahblah 2]

Regardless of whether the attempt to hold them to ransom was successful, it appears that it has been made - and very unwisely in my opinion. However.

So unlike you to miss the point city1st, but you''re forgiven :).

[Bill 1,788]

yes, pointing an empty gun at somebody is a sure fire way to hold them to ransome

[blahblahblah 2]

No point having a battle of wits with an unarmed man, eh City1st !

[Bill 1,788]

intellectually or otherwise probably not

[Harry 0]

It sounds to me like his agent is stirring things up:

"I can get you a bit more money here Mr Holt, you''ve been player of the season 3 years in a row, highest goal scorer 3 years in a row and the fans worship you, all you have to do is hand in a transfer request and leave the rest to me, they wouldn''t dare to let you go".

"Hello Mr McNally, my client Grant Holt want''s to be put on the transfer list, sorry can you repeat that, there is nk need to call me that Mr McNally, does that mean you won''t put him on the list?".

"Hello Sky Sports News, my client Grant Holt has handed in a transfer request at Norwich".

[Bill 1,788]

" all you have to do is hand in a transfer request and leave the rest to me, they wouldn''t dare to let you go".they don''t have toneither do they have to increase his contract either

[Harry 0]

You know that, I know that but footballers and agents aren''t always the brightest of people.

[Bill 1,788]

I think the agents will know what''s what, or they wouldn''t be agents too longI still stand by the fact that Holt feels that his place will not be so elevated next season, so he has decided it''s best to seek pastures anew whilst he is still seen as a worthwhile prospectsomething that he might not be were he to be lower down the pecking order next season