Perspective is the most important of human qualities

[dpit 1]

Ok, we àre over half way through our year back in the third division and I want to ask the question - which would you have preferred - a season of winning and potential promotion back to the 2nd div with a very possible momentum effect for the following season; or a season on mid to lower table struggling in the 2nd div?

Leave aside financial matters for now...just answer the question...and then look back at your outbursts/teeth gnashing at the end of last season and ask yourself, do you feel there is any consistency to your approach. I would love to have the time & energy to compose a compendium of side by side posts from this site by the same posters from May 2009 and Jan 2010. It would be very funny to read.

[morty 0]

This was done on a thread the other day and most people said that they were enjoying the season.I

think that if we get promoted then most people should be able to look

back on the season as having enjoyed it on the whole, the season will

be seen as just the reality check that the club needed as we emerge,

phoenix like, from the flames of previous mistakes and misery.Personally

I am enjoying my football again, and thats what its all about, theres

no fun in paying good money to be made miserable every Saturday

afternoon ( and well into the week if we have been tonked, ask my

girlfriend, if we get beat she "gives me some space" lol)Sure

all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about

it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories

(Which we criticize our blue scum down the road for) but this is where

we are, the situation we are in, and from what I can see so far we''re

making the best of it.I wasn''t posting on here last season, so

you won''t find my posts lol, I gave up on this place for a few years

when it became a ridiculous circus of "Worthy out, Worthy in, Happy clappers, Delia

out, Roeder out" etc etc etc.

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]Sure

all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about

it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer !

[morty 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure

all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about

it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer ![/quote]Lol, very true.

[bloodwagon 0]

To be honest, I think its done us good to be down here in the old 3 rd division.We got rid of the crap and some of the high wages that got us down here and got in better replacements.Also we are winning games (its been a long time ).Just a shame we got the manager we should have had 3 seasons too late, then again better late than never.so yes, i`m glad we dropped down here so we can start again afresh to build the team up again, who knows we just might go on to bigger and better things from here, that''s the thing about football, you never know, but are always hoping.

[The Butler 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]

You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer !
[/quote]

Do you have permission to make statements like that?

It is just a shame that the media don''t agree with your succinct analysis.

Enjoying this seasons football as agianst the last year or two most certainly, winning is infectious no matter what division it is happening in.

[morty 0]

[quote user="The Butler"]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer ![/quote]

Do you have permission to make statements like that?

It is just a shame that the media don''t agree with your succinct analysis.

Enjoying this seasons football as agianst the last year or two most certainly, winning is infectious no matter what division it is happening in.

[/quote]Jesus, you can''t leave it, can you?

[fleckyfan 0]

[quote user="bloodwagon"]To be honest, I think its done us good to be down here in the old 3 rd division.
We got rid of the crap and some of the high wages that got us down here and got in better replacements.
Also we are winning games (its been a long time ).
Just a shame we got the manager we should have had 3 seasons too late, then again better late than never.
so yes, i`m glad we dropped down here so we can start again afresh to build the team up again, who knows we just might
go on to bigger and better things from here, that''s the thing about football, you never know, but are always hoping.
[/quote]

 

It''s also got rid of Doncastor and Mumby who, if we had just manged to stay up would still be here now.

Hope McNally can give Lambert all support he needs to establish us back in the Championship.

[The Butler 0]

[quote user="morty"][quote user="The Butler"]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]

You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer !
[/quote]

Do you have permission to make statements like that?

It is just a shame that the media don''t agree with your succinct analysis.

Enjoying this seasons football as agianst the last year or two most certainly, winning is infectious no matter what division it is happening in.

[/quote]

Jesus, you can''t leave it, can you?
[/quote]

Sorry did I offend you sensibilities by agreeing with him?

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="bloodwagon"]To be honest, I think its done us good to be down here in the old 3 rd division.
We got rid of the crap and some of the high wages that got us down here and got in better replacements.
Also we are winning games (its been a long time ).
Just a shame we got the manager we should have had 3 seasons too late, then again better late than never.
so yes, i`m glad we dropped down here so we can start again afresh to build the team up again, who knows we just might
go on to bigger and better things from here, that''s the thing about football, you never know, but are always hoping.
[/quote]

 

I agree, although at the time last season I don''t think I wanted to say it would have done us good to drop down, but looking back it was most likely what we needed.  Got rid of Doomy and IMHO that was always gonna be a good thing. [:)]

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="morty"][quote user="The Butler"]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer ![/quote]

Do you have permission to make statements like that?

It is just a shame that the media don''t agree with your succinct analysis.

Enjoying this seasons football as agianst the last year or two most certainly, winning is infectious no matter what division it is happening in.

[/quote]Jesus, you can''t leave it, can you?[/quote]

Sorry did I offend you sensibilities by agreeing with him?

[/quote]I think you must have caught morty off guard, I had to read it twice before I realised Butler [:)]As for the media, the secret of a successful economy is to keep the public scared and confused (...and your bankers in check).  And part one of that is the medias'' purpose, and place in society.

[morty 0]

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="morty"][quote user="The Butler"]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Sure all the moaning old minnies (you know who you are) will carp on about it being the third division and will blab on about our past glories[/quote]You can tell that the moaners are scraping the barrel, when you get threads reminding us all of "let''s be ''aving you" - as if what happened there wasn''t some daft woman off her trolley, but some kind of wrong implanted deeply into the collective psyche that needs to be righted.  I mean, get a grip will yer ![/quote]

Do you have permission to make statements like that?

It is just a shame that the media don''t agree with your succinct analysis.

Enjoying this seasons football as agianst the last year or two most certainly, winning is infectious no matter what division it is happening in.

[/quote]Jesus, you can''t leave it, can you?[/quote]

Sorry did I offend you sensibilities by agreeing with him?

[/quote]The way i read it you were disagreeing, I apologise.But please don''t drag this thread way off topic like so many of them do.There is already another thread to ramble on about Delia''s "alleged" drunken ramblings.[:)]

[Beauseant 0]

Ultimately as a fan you want to see your side winning and playing entertaining football.Which league that is happening in is of secondary importance.

This year we have seen some brilliant football and  some excellent games at Carra (Millwall, Huddersfield .and for absolute edge of your seat excitement, Brentford). I''m happy enough, particularly given the off field progress.

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]Leave aside financial matters for now...just answer the question...and

then look back at your outbursts/teeth gnashing at the end of last

season and ask yourself, do you feel there is any consistency to your

approach.[/quote]The approach of most fans is determined mostly by results, secondly, and only for the most vocal fans, by the way the club is run.  Both have changed dramatically over this period, you would expect most people to react to the situation as they see it at the time.Our inconsistencies are what make us human.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

Perspective?

The philosophy of perspectivism promotes the theory that the knowledge of a subject is inevitably partial and limited by the individual vantage point from which it is viewed.

And the practice of perspectivism is the practice of regarding or analysing a situation from different points of view.

The OP is naturally made from a particular perspective but, I suspect, wishes us other posters to view the situation of our club from one point of view rather than various points of view.

Hmmm.

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[morty 0]

Oh, right.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

Not wanting to get bogged down by this too much because i know where it will end up. But what Babes is saying is pretty much spot on. He and I will always view the club from a different perspective because we get different things from it. So where as I can enjoy the football and the results in League One despite the status of being there our friend Babes doesn''t have that perspective in his locker. I wouldn''t mind betting the lower we drop the less media coverage he can enjoy. So he for one is no better off winning in League One than losing in the Champs because none of the advantages go his way.

 

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

So where as I can enjoy the football and the results in League One despite the status of being there our friend Babes doesn''t have that perspective in his locker. I wouldn''t mind betting the lower we drop the less media coverage he can enjoy. So he for one is no better off winning in League One than losing in the Champs because none of the advantages go his way.

[/quote]I think we''ve been on Sky / available on naughty grey area streams more often this season than last nutty old chap - happy to be corrected if I''m wrong. [:)]

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

Not wanting to get bogged down by this too much because i know where it will end up. But what Babes is saying is pretty much spot on. He and I will always view the club from a different perspective because we get different things from it. So where as I can enjoy the football and the results in League One despite the status of being there our friend Babes doesn''t have that perspective in his locker. I wouldn''t mind betting the lower we drop the less media coverage he can enjoy. So he for one is no better off winning in League One than losing in the Champs because none of the advantages go his way.

[/quote]

Which just goes to show that that tunnel vision of yours and ''perspective'' are mutually exclusive.

There''s nothing better than peripheral vision - it comes strongly recommended, And if it was available for purchase I would strongly recommend it to you.

[;)]

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[nutty nigel 7,902]

Well I have to be honest here and say that I have yet to come across another poster with more blinkered views than yours Babes. But I guess that''s a matter of perspective too.

[;)]

 

[morty 0]

Please don''t let yet another thread drift into inane ramblings.[:(]

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

Well I have to be honest here and say that I have yet to come across another poster with more blinkered views than yours Babes. But I guess that''s a matter of perspective too.

[;)]

[/quote]

So how are we to know when you are being honest .......and when you are not?[:-*]

[;)]

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