tom cavendish 0 Posted July 26, 2009 Last season Grant Holt only actually scored 11 League Two goals from open play in 43 appearances. The other 9 goals were penalties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Tasty Nibblets 0 Posted July 27, 2009 I thought he got 28? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Only 20 goals in League Two games. 1 in the FA cup and 7 in the Mickey Mouse Cup.Only 11 League Two goals from open play, plus 9 penalties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Tasty Nibblets 0 Posted July 27, 2009 im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="tom cavendish"]Only 20 goals in League Two games. 1 in the FA cup and 7 in the Mickey Mouse Cup.Only 11 League Two goals from open play, plus 9 penalties.[/quote]So are you saying we''ve landed a striker who can not only score goals in the League and Cups but can also win us plenty of penalties? That''s fantastic!! Just the 11 League goals from Jamie Cureton last year and we''d have finished mid table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Buckethead"][quote user="tom cavendish"]Only 20 goals in League Two games. 1 in the FA cup and 7 in the Mickey Mouse Cup.Only 11 League Two goals from open play, plus 9 penalties.[/quote]So are you saying we''ve landed a striker who can not only score goals in the League and Cups but can also win us plenty of penalties? That''s fantastic!! Just the 11 League goals from Jamie Cureton last year and we''d have finished mid table.[/quote]Last season Chris Martin scored 11 League Two goals from open play - the same number as Grant Holt, except that Martin started 4 L2 games fewer than Holt did, and Martin played some of his games in midfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Its only my opinion 0 Posted July 27, 2009 I think everybody apart from you realise we need another striker to play off grant holt as he more of a link up striker between midfield and upfront. plus he scores a fair few goals? Can also take a penalty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjwc22 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Some people are never happy. I think we should have signed Dean Ashton back rather than this rubbish Forest reject....He will play well with some of our quick youngsters and will form a good goal scoring partnership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted July 27, 2009 How many of the penalties did Holt win himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties)[/quote]You''re obviously implying that we should have signed Lambert... well be our guest to donate near enough £1 million to Norwich to sign him? No? thought not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjwc22 0 Posted July 27, 2009 I think Holt will do nicely for us this season, might even be able to sell him for a profit next summer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Big Bob"][quote user="tom cavendish"] [quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties)[/quote]You''re obviously implying that we should have signed Lambert... well be our guest to donate near enough £1 million to Norwich to sign him? No? thought not.[/quote]750k for Lambert (which is not much more than Holt) amd 720k was made from the rebate scheme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Time to go Delia 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Big Bob"][quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties)[/quote]You''re obviously implying that we should have signed Lambert... well be our guest to donate near enough £1 million to Norwich to sign him? No? thought not.[/quote] You dont think its a disgrace the fans had to buy Holt then ? all other football clubs have a transfer kitty and actually buy players that cost a fee as well as manage to pay said players wages without conning the upporters out of money . Agree with the OP Rickie Lambert would have been the smart buy , if Holts so well thought of just why did he join Shrewsbury from Forest for £170,000 , strange move for such a top class striker . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Rickie Lambert is not a target man, we needed somebody for the other players to play off.I''ll happily bet you Holt will score more goals than Lambert this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butterbean_Canary 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Freebie City F.C."][quote user="Big Bob"][quote user="tom cavendish"] [quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties)[/quote]You''re obviously implying that we should have signed Lambert... well be our guest to donate near enough £1 million to Norwich to sign him? No? thought not.[/quote] You dont think its a disgrace the fans had to buy Holt then ? all other football clubs have a transfer kitty and actually buy players that cost a fee as well as manage to pay said players wages without conning the upporters out of money . Agree with the OP Rickie Lambert would have been the smart buy , if Holts so well thought of just why did he join Shrewsbury from Forest for £170,000 , strange move for such a top class striker .[/quote]Do you actually believe that all other clubs have a transfer kitty? Surely you understand that only clubs that have money to burn (we do not have) have a kitty, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]Rickie Lambert is not a target man, we needed somebody for the other players to play off.[/quote]Rickie Lambert is brilliant at that - it is the strongest part of his game - linking midfield and attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 27, 2009 But he is lazy and doesn''t put himself about, i''d rather have a Iwan type player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Big Bob"][quote user="tom cavendish"] [quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]im sure the 7 in the Mickey mouse cup were against League 2/1 opposition before they got knocked out, so looking at the overall record its probably more like 28 from 50 including 19 from open play. No need to put a dampner on a very good signing.[/quote]5 were in one Mickey Mouse cup game v L2 Wycombe, and 1 in the FA Cup against Blythe Spartans where Shrewsbury lost 3-1.Last season:Grant Holt - 20 League Two goals (including 9 penalties)Rickie Lambert - 29 League One goals (including 5 penalties)[/quote]You''re obviously implying that we should have signed Lambert... well be our guest to donate near enough £1 million to Norwich to sign him? No? thought not.[/quote]we could get Lambert for between £600 and £750k we have the money from the sale of clingan(and some £££ from rusty when he goes)...to have Lambert and Holt up front next season WOW best strike partnership in league 1 by a mile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]Rickie Lambert is not a target man, we needed somebody for the other players to play off.[/quote]Rickie Lambert is brilliant at that - it is the strongest part of his game - linking midfield and attack.[/quote]Ricky Labert is 6,2" strong..got an eye for goal and is no slotch himself...he is exactly the player we need [Y] sign him up Gunny £750K a bargain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7rew 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Freebie City F.C."] You dont think its a disgrace the fans had to buy Holt then ? all other football clubs have a transfer kitty and actually buy players that cost a fee as well as manage to pay said players wages without conning the upporters out of money . Agree with the OP Rickie Lambert would have been the smart buy , if Holts so well thought of just why did he join Shrewsbury from Forest for £170,000 , strange move for such a top class striker .[/quote]Really. All other clubs have money to sign players for fees. Using sky sports news as a source (I did check for northwich confusion) I counted the disclosed and undisclosed fee signings by each club in league 1. (There were no disclosed fees which made it easier!)Number of undisclosed fees: (names in brackets)0:Bristol RoversCarlisleExeterGillinghamLeedsLeyton OrientOldham AthleticSouthamptonSouthendStockport CountyTranmereWalsallWycombe Wanderers1:Brentford (Weston)Charlton Athletic (Soro)Colchester (Thomas)Millwall (Sullivan)MK Dons (Easter)Swindon (Cuthbert)Yeovil Town (Williams)2:Brighton (Dickinson, Tunnicliffe)3:Huddersfield (Robinson, Peltier, Simpson)4:Norwich City (Holt, Tudur Jones, Whaley, Wiggins)I make that over half of the league in which we will play next season yet to pay a fee of any kind for a player. Given that Tudur Jones and Wiggins are belived to have been very cheap and still qualify for the list, that is really quite a statistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Watch some of his goals here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF2nS5z3A-k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 27, 2009 I don''t know what you''re basing that on, he has little pace, lazy and doesn''t get stuck in like Holt does. Granted he is technically good and scored goals last season but his attitude is questionable and goes through periods without scoring because of this.Are some people on here stupid? We''ve been relegated, income has dropped significantly and the playing budget MUST be reduced. Not all the money brought in from sales can be spent and you''re forgetting the players we''ve brought in will cost a fair bit over the next year in wages, signing on fees as well as the price agreed with their former club. A player on £3,000 a week and bonuses accounts for £150,000-£200,000 of the playing budget a year, the playing budget last year at £8m a year was 1 of the highest in the championship, i''m not privvy to how much it needs to be down to this year but it will be a lot, lot less.We sign Lambert for £750k, add in say wages of £4,000 and we''re looking at over £1m of the budget before we even add in his signing on fee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="tom cavendish"]Watch some of his goals here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF2nS5z3A-k[/quote]you havnt got to convince me...sign him up i say [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]I don''t know what you''re basing that on, he has little pace, lazy and doesn''t get stuck in like Holt does. Granted he is technically good and scored goals last season but his attitude is questionable and goes through periods without scoring because of this. Are some people on here stupid? We''ve been relegated, income has dropped significantly and the playing budget MUST be reduced. Not all the money brought in from sales can be spent and you''re forgetting the players we''ve brought in will cost a fair bit over the next year in wages, signing on fees as well as the price agreed with their former club. A player on £3,000 a week and bonuses accounts for £150,000-£200,000 of the playing budget a year, the playing budget last year at £8m a year was 1 of the highest in the championship, i''m not privvy to how much it needs to be down to this year but it will be a lot, lot less. We sign Lambert for £750k, add in say wages of £4,000 and we''re looking at over £1m of the budget before we even add in his signing on fee.[/quote]immediate promotion back to the championship....money well spent imo...AND A LAZY STRIKER WITH NO PACE SCORED 28 GOALS LAST YEAR..UMMMM..he must be doing something right!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom cavendish 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]We sign Lambert for £750k, add in say wages of £4,000 and we''re looking at over £1m of the budget before we even add in his signing on fee.[/quote]But 720k was raised from the rebate scheme to pay for Holt and we are reported in the media to be paying Hughes 7k per week so we probably could have afforded Lambert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 27, 2009 If you believe we''re paying Hughes £7,000 a week you really are very naive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 6,051 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="tom cavendish"][quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]We sign Lambert for £750k, add in say wages of £4,000 and we''re looking at over £1m of the budget before we even add in his signing on fee.[/quote]But 720k was raised from the rebate scheme to pay for Holt and we are reported in the media to be paying Hughes 7k per week so we probably could have afforded Lambert.[/quote]And Gunn has said we''re definitely not paying him 7K, but don''t let the facts get in the way, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted July 27, 2009 Where are you getting this 750k figure from? Simon cox who got the same amount of goals as Lambert went to West Brom for between 1.5 - 2 million so i doubt we''d get Lambert for 750k. 1 Million at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted July 27, 2009 There''s always one isn''t there. The lad''s played about 10 mins for us and you''re writing him off already. Yes, of course there are better strikers around, but Holt has scored consistently wherever he''s been and I believe Gunny has done an excellent bit of business bringing him here. I fully expect him to score around 20 goals this season. All we need now is to get rid of Cureton (who was dire on Saturday missing his usual quota of sitters) as soon as possible and hopefully sign Maric. Then, with Cody and Chris Martin (who impressed on Saturday though needs to sharpen up a little) and we''ll have a decent selection of strikers. More than enough quality to worry any league 1 defence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites