Most of you on here live in fantasy land

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You remind me of a girlfriend who keep getting dumped but going back for more. Every season you play fantasy football, speculating which players will be brought in and every season these players go to other clubs with money, ambition or even both ! It''s like groundhog day every day on here. When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart, that the club''s first priority is to maintain as tight a grip as possible on the finances which means taking no risks which in turn means that as the start of each season beckons the height of our ambition is to secure mid-table mediocrity. The current Board will never speculate to accumulate, instead they will keep the cheque book closed as much as possible and hope that the manager will somehow wave a magic wand, intone "Abracadabra" and magically gain promotion (which would then of course see us relegated at the end of the first season with the chorus i.e. the Board chanting Ambition with Prudence or was it Prudence with Ambition ?!)

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most of us are fans thats why? no matter what the club does we always support them. If you''re saying you''re not the same then go and support ipswich. I''m dissappointed by the board, but as long as there''s a Norwich City Football Club, I''ll still be going back for more.Now go back to your village, they''re probably missing their idiot.

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]You remind me of a girlfriend who keep getting dumped but going back for more. Every season you play fantasy football, speculating which players will be brought in and every season these players go to other clubs with money, ambition or even both ! It''s like groundhog day every day on here. When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart, that the club''s first priority is to maintain as tight a grip as possible on the finances which means taking no risks which in turn means that as the start of each season beckons the height of our ambition is to secure mid-table mediocrity. The current Board will never speculate to accumulate, instead they will keep the cheque book closed as much as possible and hope that the manager will somehow wave a magic wand, intone "Abracadabra" and magically gain promotion (which would then of course see us relegated at the end of the first season with the chorus i.e. the Board chanting Ambition with Prudence or was it Prudence with Ambition ?!)[/quote]

So what''s your alternative ?  A brisk walk of a Saturday afternoon ?  Bit of shopping ?

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart,  [/quote]

I think many on here would agree with the sentiment and frustration of your post, but this sentence punctured any credibility you may have hoped for. My view (and that of those with intelligence and some experience of their dealings, such as Mr Carrow) is that the board have undoubtedly wanted the best for this club, but have plainly got it badly wrong.

I personally feel that, in addition, they fail to truly desire success on the pitch, and fail to appreciate that many fans would give their right arms to return to our previous level. Instead they have - in fairness - created a marketable, family orientated product.... because in truth, that is what they themselves are content with.

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart,  [/quote]

I think many on here would agree with the sentiment and frustration of your post, but this sentence punctured any credibility you may have hoped for. My view (and that of those with intelligence and some experience of their dealings, such as Mr Carrow) is that the board have undoubtedly wanted the best for this club, but have plainly got it badly wrong.

I personally feel that, in addition, they fail to truly desire success on the pitch, and fail to appreciate that many fans would give their right arms to return to our previous level. Instead they have - in fairness - created a marketable, family orientated product.... because in truth, that is what they themselves are content with.

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I think it''s clear what I am saying. Fans want only one thing from their club : success on the pitch. Therefore, if the Board has the best interest of the fans at heart it will do everything it possibly can to achieve success on the pitch. That clearly hasn''t been the case at Norwich for many seasons and was epitomised for so many of us with the "Ambition with prudence" nonsense. I have supported Norwich for longer than I care to remember, I am intelligent, I have a degree (not always proof of intelligence I grant you) and I have concluded that the NCFC Board does not have the best interests of the fans at heart for the reasons stated. I agree with what I think you''re saying i.e that the Board thinks it has the best of the fans at heart or kids itself into believing that it does but the fact is that it doesn''t. If you and others want to rubbish that point of view then that''s your perogative.

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]You remind me of a girlfriend who keep getting dumped but going back for more. Every season you play fantasy football, speculating which players will be brought in and every season these players go to other clubs with money, ambition or even both ! It''s like groundhog day every day on here. When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart, that the club''s first priority is to maintain as tight a grip as possible on the finances which means taking no risks which in turn means that as the start of each season beckons the height of our ambition is to secure mid-table mediocrity. The current Board will never speculate to accumulate, instead they will keep the cheque book closed as much as possible and hope that the manager will somehow wave a magic wand, intone "Abracadabra" and magically gain promotion (which would then of course see us relegated at the end of the first season with the chorus i.e. the Board chanting Ambition with Prudence or was it Prudence with Ambition ?!)[/quote]

So what''s your alternative ?  A brisk walk of a Saturday afternoon ?  Bit of shopping ?

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He''ll be they one carrying his missus''s shopping bags

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]I have supported Norwich for longer than I care to remember, I am intelligent, I have a degree (not always proof of intelligence I grant you) and I have concluded that the NCFC Board does not have the best interests of the fans at heart for the reasons stated. [/quote]

Crikey, sorry if you thought I was questioning your intelligence or flaming you for having strong views. We are in broad agreement. What I objected to was your implication that the board have acted in any way maliciously or deliberately in threat to NCFC. I think theyre great at running a club; just not a football club. There is also an argument, of course, that the best interest of the fans is actually a club thats stable, without the spectre of asset stripping, board walkouts or administration at the door.

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]You remind me of a girlfriend who keep getting dumped but going back for more. Every season you play fantasy football, speculating which players will be brought in and every season these players go to other clubs with money, ambition or even both ! It''s like groundhog day every day on here. When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart, that the club''s first priority is to maintain as tight a grip as possible on the finances which means taking no risks which in turn means that as the start of each season beckons the height of our ambition is to secure mid-table mediocrity. The current Board will never speculate to accumulate, instead they will keep the cheque book closed as much as possible and hope that the manager will somehow wave a magic wand, intone "Abracadabra" and magically gain promotion (which would then of course see us relegated at the end of the first season with the chorus i.e. the Board chanting Ambition with Prudence or was it Prudence with Ambition ?!)[/quote]

So what''s your alternative ?  A brisk walk of a Saturday afternoon ?  Bit of shopping ?

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Why ask that Bleurgh? Do you need a companion?.....

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The board runs and understands NCPLC but haven''t a clue how to make NCFC a success and so FOOTBALL suffers as we can all see. 

 

FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

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I think that is a very astute bit of summing up Jim Duffy. Nail on head.

By the way, have you managed to find another club yet?

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[quote user="Mello Yello"]Why ask that Bleurgh? Do you need a companion?.....[/quote]

No I''m just curious as to what the 8 of you intend to do.  Stepping away from entrenched positions for a moment, it is quite incredible really, that after 2 of our worst end of season positions for about 40 years, that there is no substantial body of protest. 

I think that''s partly because the board are in a safe financial position, that Roeder has done some good initial work but needs time, that the appetite for it has gone after last time, but mainly because so many people are relieved we haven''t been relegated.

I mean, let''s be honest Mello old chum, you''re not averse to taking a swipe at the board from your keyboard, but it would be a hell of a lot of work, time and effort to go down the road of a couple of seasons ago, maybe that''s why no-one has bothered ?

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If a lot of the people are indeed as you say living in fantasy land then I think they should concentrate on supporting there local team, Fantasy FC or Fantasy Utd or what ever it''s called.I fed up with these fans who jump on the band wagon and support the winning team all the time. Where will it end. Roy Keane will tell you, we''ll end up with a prawn sandwich brigade. You mark my word.Thank for bring this to our attention. I''m sure I speak for all the real fan''s living in the surrounding area of Norwich, when I say support your own team and leave ours alone.

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Most of us keep going back year after year cause are supporters of the club and stick by the club whatever. Just cause we keep going back doesn''t mean that we''re happy with with mediocrity far from it!

 

I know from the many years I''ve been going that things change very quickly in football and that is the hope we cling to!

 

If I had a pound for everytime I''ve heard a Norwich fan say - "this is crap I''m not going again next year" or words of a similar nature and is back again the next year I''d be able to buy the club!

 

People I know who drift away just end up listening to Radio Norfolks coverage, start missign the matchday experience and start going again!

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In line with most supporters of Norwich City I am not happy with our position or performances over the last few years.  However it is the performance of the board that seems to split most fans.  Views cover the spectrum from the view the board are the ''spawn of the devil'' to ''they can do no wrong''.  As a supporter I will continue to renew my season ticket as long as I am able but it does not mean I blindly accept the views of the board.  The fact is we have a debt of 17-20 million pounds but seem to be managing it without going into administration, speculating wildly on players/managers etc, or courting outside interests.  Football clubs do not make fortunes, players wages and agents fees etc are a constant drain on revenue and anyone who still utters the mantrs ''Where have all the premier league millions gone?'' is defying the logic and experience of the financial realities.  I find it annoying and arrogant that so many demand the board throw in millions of their hard earned money into the club.  The board are the custodians of the club, not a cash cow.  I would be happier if those demanding money promised to donate say £100 or £1000 for each £1 million put in by the board.  Yes I know we buy season tickets and merchandise but the board also put a lot of time money and expertise in keeping the club going.  The same expertise I would say that got them their fortune in the first place.  And for those who say they can run a business but not a football club I ask ''What credentials do you need to guarantee susccess on the field?''  We all have our opinions, that is the beauty of football.  Let me re-itterate I am not happy with our situation but it could be so much worse.  And I haven''t even started on the on-field position!

I am sorry if  I appear to state the obvious to some people but I needed to get  it off my chest as I prepare for Sheffield and the dull dark days of summer before the new season begins, with new players and renewed hope and expectations.

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[quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]You remind me of a girlfriend who keep getting dumped but going back for more. Every season you play fantasy football, speculating which players will be brought in and every season these players go to other clubs with money, ambition or even both ! It''s like groundhog day every day on here. When will you accept that this club no longer has the best interests of the fans at heart, that the club''s first priority is to maintain as tight a grip as possible on the finances which means taking no risks which in turn means that as the start of each season beckons the height of our ambition is to secure mid-table mediocrity. The current Board will never speculate to accumulate, instead they will keep the cheque book closed as much as possible and hope that the manager will somehow wave a magic wand, intone "Abracadabra" and magically gain promotion (which would then of course see us relegated at the end of the first season with the chorus i.e. the Board chanting Ambition with Prudence or was it Prudence with Ambition ?!)[/quote]

 

Its called love, and it makes you blind!