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The 3 Chelsea diving bookings were theoretically all correct on VAR as there was no evidence of a clear error to overturn the on-field call. This will nearly always be the case in most penalty decisions; William''s penalty was about a 75% penalty, but he was going down. However, in the shoot out, (which I assume is a goal and can be overturned?) Caballero left his line before Oliveira struck the ball. This isn''t an opinion, this is fact. Now, in all 9 penalties this happened and would be a shambles if in each save a retake was applied. But you can''t introduce VAR, expect all bad decisions to be eradicated and the good things of the game to remain the same. Referees don''t apply all the laws in order to allow flow and common sense. Introducing VAR requires laws to be applied to the letter, and the game would change. Is football really that bad as it is? I notice it was quite a common sport pre-VAR....

The season is over, we’re 13th, 9 points off (only) the play offs and it’s mid-January. Webber has been very good at saying we’ve got no money and we need four transfer windows but this doesn’t wash. Having no money is problematic when in most cases it goes with having a very weak squad. This is not the case – we have one on the best squads in the championship (don’t tell me Bristol City, Cardiff, Sheffield Utd., Brentford are stronger); each transfer window it will get weaker and weaker. The ‘rebuild’ is a fallacy – next year no Maddison, no Oliveira, no Klose, no Pinto – how will we have a chance of anything other than mid-table? This season was our best chance of promotion, indeed automatic promotion in the next 5 or 10 years, and Farke has wasted it. Last season Neil failed (but saved us before and is doing well with Preston), but we were the top scorers and every 3 matches or so we absolutely wiped the floor with teams. And when Alan Irvine came in, we were mainly excellent. We’re hardly weaker than last season (pre-transfer window, when if we''d been performing adequately we may have kept Pritchard) Murphy, Howson but Gunn, Hanley and Maddison. Unfortunately we have a second rate, reserve manager in charge. On the whole the Bundesliga signings have been woeful – we waste half a season playing with ten men (Vrancic being the 11th), and playing the strongest team in ALL cup games has cost us further points. I’d guess that any other manager in the championship would have us in the play-off picture, but it’s Webber who appointed Farke and oversaw the signings. I was very sceptical of this one trick pony who thought he’d cracked the football business. Seems that there isn’t a limitless ‘arbitrage’ from the lower reaches of German football.

Think I''ve given it sufficient thought....so there weren''t offers for Pritchard, Klose and Oliveira in the summer? And next summer we can expect higher offers (plus their wage costs for this seasons) for them when they''ve finished mid-table in the championship with one year less left on their contract....how is any one of these players going to be worth more next summer?

Totally agree. Just posted something very similar before I saw this

as he explains at every opportunity, why has he settled for a season of re-building whilst maintaining one of the highest paid squads in the league? His permanent signings have on the whole been cheap and not up to standard. If the objective was to come tenth and re-build for some non-explicit future, why pay millions in wages to Oliveira, Pinto, Naismith, Klose, Pritchard, Jerome, etc. and loose out on several million in transfer fees when we sell/ release these guys next summer? The alternative, more ambitious and indeed pragmatic approach would have been to spend a little more on better players, a striker and a better manager (like Heckingbottom or even keep Irvine), and aim to be as good as, er Sheffield Utd, Cardiff and Bristol City in what is final chance of promotion for many years. Sure we can fire-sell our high earners in January, but then we''ve paid 6 months of wages and will receive less in a fire sale. This guy is a one trick pony who employed a "look at me" strategy at a club where is doesn''t really matter where they finish in Championship or League 1. HUFC did great and scraped through the play offs after he''d left, but it was naive to think he''d get that lucky again...there''s a limit to the talent in Bundesliga zwei drei vier.

Not disputing Watkins'' red card, but wasn''t the foul on Maddison worse? Watkins was going for the ball but had neither foot grounded and was reckless, although his opponent wasn''t hurt. However, the Van den Berg wasn''t even going for the ball meaning Maddison wasn''t aware of any challenge so couldn''t ride the impact and was injured. So in probability of being injured, an off the ball foul is worse. So shouldn''t all off the ball fouls be red cards. After all, as it''s deliberate so the perpetrator can''t claim to be unlucky.

Yes, it''s very impressive at the moment, particularly as this has been achieved without possibly two of our best players. However, it seems now we are "on target" for the play offs. We should be aiming for the top two; not a lottery of facing a 75% chance of still being in the same division next season. Despite talk of rebuilding and needing time, our squad is stronger than nearly every other in the division, certainly stronger than teams above us such as Cardiff, Sheffield Utd., Leeds, Bristol C, Preston and errm, Ip5h1t. Last season was a spectacular failure for this reason. We weren''t a terrible Premier League team in 15/16: 23 points from the first 20 matches; failing to hold on to consecutive two goal leads at home in February, and getting done by Fat Sam buttering up referees; it wouldn''t have taken much to stay up rather than go down with one game to spare. Most clubs that come down from the Prem are terrible and do poorly in the Championship (Sunderland this season, Villa last, Fulham and Cardiff when they came down with us in 13/14). However, most clubs that just narrowly get relegated - Newcastle in 15/16; us in 13/14; Hull in 14/15 - tend to go straight back up. For reference Middlesbrough were also terrible last year and down by Christmas. So last year was a huge failure, yet we still finished eighth. So if we perform only slightly better than last year, we should be top six, and if we perform to our potential we should be near the top two. While we''ve not got as good a chance of automatic as last year, we''ve got a better chance than nearly all other teams in the division....and a hugely better chance than next year. Next year a) better teams from the Premier league than Hull, Boro and Sunderland will come down and b) we won''t have Klose, Pritchard and Oliveira. Last chance basically.

And did the rest of the Championship? Otherwise I cannot see the logic. With a final year of parachute payments, a strong squad which at times (and too inconsistently) last season had been about the best team in the league, and a serviceable manager that was beginning to get things together, we should have been aiming top 2. Instead....well we''re asked to give these guys time to get use to the Championship. Webber''s biggest achievement has been to convince many NCFC fans that this had to be a season of rebuilding, rather than out best chance in the coming years of promotion. I get we need to save money, -surely the transfer fees of Murphy, Brady, Olssen and Howson have overdone this - but surely we could have speculated on getting in some players who can play at this level (a few more like Hanley) and go for promotion. Because, if the objective is as it seems to just survive this season and just hope that we can pull off another 50/1 shot like Huddersfield Town, why bother keeping on Klose and Pritchard for another year''s big wages when they''ll surely leave next summer. Infuriating. Thrown away our final, really good, chance of promotion in the hope of being Huddersfield Town. Huddersfield''s promotion was a blue moon event; it doesn''t make it the rule rather than the exception that teams with better and better-paid players are more likely to get promoted.

Ian Holloway''s comment last May was stark: "How did you guys not get promoted?" Alan Irvine had got us playing well, and by the end of the season we were playing to about our potential, one of best sides in the league beating Reading and Brighton in uncomplicated fashion. So what should we do? Mild tweak or tear it all up and start again? We chose the latter. Stuart Webber comes in and in what could possibly be described as an "oh look at me stance", or a one-trick pony method, goes all Bundesliga (zwei or vier) on us. Now that''s fine if you''re Huddersfield with no chance of ever getting into the Premier League without some radical gamble that could end you up in League 1, but Huddersfield often go into League one anyway. But we are the club in the Championship with the most seasons in the Premier League this decade bar Villa and with a squad that suggested it. Okay, finances, but surely we could have afforded one more big push for promotion with better players than most of the league for this season, and if it didn''t work come May, then gamble for 2018/19. And with the cash for Jacob & Howson surely a good coach could turn Ryan Bennett and even Bassong on lower wages into a decent Championship pairing. One or two classy signings and I think we''d have had a great chance of top two. Instead we get Die Chuckle Bruder at centre back. I know everyone is saying "Give him time", but that''s the point: we didn''t need to be in this situation of giving anyone time and unnecessarily dropped points, we could have gone in with Irvine and started with a bang. What brings this home is we look strong when we play last year''s team: Oliveira, Hoolahan, Murphy and goodness me even Alex Neil''s last signing Wildschut on the pitch (I''m been very impressed with Yanic and amazed when he gets substituted or not picked). But instead we have to endure Vrancic, Husband and Watkins.....

Premier League rewind currently on the iPlayer.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092ggng Watching the only bit that we want to see, possibly Norwich''s greatest ever Premier League result, Ray Stubbs let''s us in to some of new Norwich manager Ian Walker''s tactical advice....busy man that Walker, as later in the goals round up ''Stubbsy'' tells us about him saving Spurs a point at The Dell. Well lets hope it''s not too long before we once more provide the opportunity for reporters and pundits to display some pig-ignorance on our club.

Did Wigan really only pay £800k for him in January 2016? In what universe did we rate him at 10 x that amount one year on when he''s had half a season in league 1 and half at the bottom of the championship? Wigan have re-spent 10% of that on Omar Bogle; it wouldn’t surprise me if we’re linked with him next January for £7m.

Yes, he''s got his annual save in early this year. Woeful against Huddersfield and Reading and escaped with very little criticism. I''ve never rated him at all but actually think his best form was last season post recall.

A set square and my own personal set of Hawk Eye cameras I set up around Carrow Road on match days.

How did he get away with it? Neither of the commentators, pundits nor anything else I''ve read about the match mentioned this calamity. It was straight in the middle of the goal, along the ground...and he fell over. I''ve calculated that any deflection changed the trajectory by at most 2 cms. Is it just me? I''m not saying that this lost us the game...but if we''re attaching significance to goals.....

Patrik Andersson. Oh no, Chase didn’t spend the extra 50k on a guy that was winning the Champions League nearly a decade later, so he went to Blackburn. The centre back pairing was the only weakness in 92/93 team, so you wonder what could have been here. Of the players that actually played for us, Watson, Bruce and Linighan as centre backs, but then this was in the days when all centre forwards smoked so maybe we need to look more recently. Seb Bassong was immense in 12/13 and the only thing that stood between us and relegation that year. And now Klose is excellent. This is really the position where we’ve struggled over the last 25 years or so. Many good full-backs.

I’d rather look at what someone does, rather than what they say. Press rules in this country are absurd that they can entrap someone then report this sh1t with repercussions. However….. He should never had got the job in the first place. He’s never won anything, lost more matches than he’s won, not survived six months at the only big team he’s ever managed, plays a woeful style of football and is a terrible ambassador for the game. He’s got many results from manipulating our stupid referees and his dreadful touchline antics that just wouldn’t work in the international game. His one claim is that he’s never been relegated…now Sunderland would have gone down last year had it not been for some outrageous decisions in their favour, not just the match at Carrow Road, but across many other games including the penalty v Newcastle in his first match in charge. Perhaps even if Klose hadn’t been injured or we’d been given that penalty v Palace. Even in Sunderland’s final dead rubber match v Watford he was still berating the referee in the post-match interview in the hope of getting the ‘favour’ returned in a subsequent match. All this and he should have been serving a touchline ban for much of the running for the touchline ‘fracas’ at Carrow Road, screaming in the officials’ faces, shoving Jerome. Would he have been given the England job had he just served a touchline ban? As is often incorrectly stated, “it all evens itself out over the course of a career”.

Yup. I’ve never considered that we’re not big favourites for the top two, and can’t put up a good argument against. We weren’t far off survival last year (23 points from first 20 matches pre-strengthening…..1 penalty v 10 against; Cameron Jerome’s first of many vs Palace; Klose’s injury, massive decisions going for Sam Allardyce not just against us but all season), invested loads in keeping the majority of the squad together, and most importantly, the opposition aren’t on the same level. Okay, so I think Newcastle will win it and second is between us and Villa who were awful last year and a work in progress. As for the others who weren’t good enough to go up last year, I don’t rate anyone. Possibly Wolves, but they have the potential to be another basket case. Derby, Brighton, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham, Fulham, who else Ips**t? Nearly all of our bench would get into these sides’ starting line-up. We’re probably just as strong as two seasons ago, don’t have a novice manager so needn’t give others a ten point head start at Christmas. It may not happen of course, but I’d be surprised if we finish below any non-relegated sides.

Defo never an official NCFC shirt. If not a fake, then an un-used prototype or possibly used in trial matches (but why manufacture another shirt with same sponsor?) For Ribero era we had the white and purple bird sh1t away k1t, then had to quickly produce the ''Wimbledon'' effort when we drew Vitesse who played in yellow and white. And for some reason during 93/94 Ribero disappeared (takeover?) and Mitre manufactured a near-identical kit for the rest of the season. There was an article on these very kits in one of last year''s programmes (either Stoke or Man City) and defo no reference to this red and white effort. I thought this site did away kits too, but can''t find it: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Norwich_City/Norwich_City.htm

OP proposed keeping RVW as insurance if we ended up in this very situation instead of Lafferty who demonstratively doesn’t want to be here, or b) keep both and avoid having to barrel scrape and probably not even get Chamakh who we’ll lose out on to a Prem club or injury. What we know about RVW was it didn’t work out for a struggling club in the prem, 1 goal in 25 games. Jerome for contrast scored 3 in 34 last year, including that one that Joe Hart had moreorless thrown in to the back of the net. Not significantly different I wouldn’t say, but we’ve seen Jerome can do it at a lower level when playing for about the best team in the division. Early signs are that RVW can do it at a lower level in the Eredivisie and has previously done it at a higher level when playing for Sporting. Lafferty is not very good. Neither will be whoever we end up with, if anyone. I’d just rather have RVW third choice than Lafferty. I’d rather have Loza than Lafferty.

...as an insurance in the unlikely (huh) scenario that we didn''t sign enough strikers? Rather than a) Lafferty, or b) scraping the barrel around non-contracted players? Okay so he would have cost slightly more in wages (counter that we''ve saved by not signed anyone) but it could have well worked out at this level when Lafferty or Chamakh almost certainly won''t.

Second. Really don''t rate anyone who didn''t go up last year and think we''re still in a better position than villa or new look wolves who are as likely to come 7th than 2nd. But we could have made it much, much easier.

1) Why does the closer that you play to your opponents’ goal increases your price significantly? Eg, Payet, Mahrez, etc. Why is someone who can create 20 chances a season worth a lot less than someone who can tap them in? It’s possibly because there are fewer strikers on the pitch so more of a club’s budget goes per player in this area than in midfield….but why then not spend more money on players that spend more time on the pitch as midfielders can play in more positions? Another example, Redmond v McCormack….AND Redmond’s demand comes from the Premier League where clubs have just received a huge windfall; McCormack’s from relegated clubs who missed out. 2) Why is a player entering the last year of their contract’s transfer value significantly reduced? Okay I know if I can get a product for free in a few weeks, I’ll backward induct the price to pay less now. However, this assumes multiple products, or in the case of a single product, a single buyer. If we assume all else equal Redmond is a 5m better than McCormack, why do Norwich sell Redmond for 11m to Southampton? Surely someone will come along to offer 12m, then someone else 13m as they’re still getting a saving on the 16m or so. 3) Why are clubs so scared about letting players leave for free at an end of a contract they….let them leave for free with one year left on their contract. E.g. Ricky van W, Vadis. At most on wages these guys would cost us 3m for one season, and as they’ve never played at a low level it should be worth a go (and Vadis is bloody good). Had we signed McCormack for 10m, pay agents 1m, pay him 1m per year and sell him for 1m in 3 years, that would cost us over 4m per season. 4) Why wait until the end of the transfer window to sign a player? E.g. NCFC every year. i) If we do sign someone they’ve missed 10% of the season. ii) managers talk about the importance of pre-season so it takes another 10% of the season to get the player to fit into the system. iii) Why not pay a premium to get the player for a full season? And it may be not be a premium as the cost may rise as other clubs know we’re desperate, they’ll know how much money we have due to our failed bids of around 10m and the monies received for Brady. Buy first, sell later. But then… in a ‘look at me’ move Pep Guardiola freezes out perfectly good keeper Joe Hart with the with one week left in the transfer window, with the assertion that he needs a ‘ball playing’ keeper. Due to playing this out in public, he has one target with just days left in the transfer window, Bravo from direct Champions League rivals Barcelona. WIth Man City’s unlimited wealth, Barcelona can charge a lot more than 15m (and not that many Euros more)…they don’t. Maybe his age? This is one thing that clubs do generally account for well. 5) How do transfer windows fit in with freedom of labour laws? It clearly restricts changing your employer to only certain times of the year, and only allows you to work for two employers during that year. Why has this never been challenged? Okay so most of these examples apply to Norwich as I mainly only (fortunately and unwillingly) follow the transfer travails on one club, and I think we’re very prone to the above. But it seems these themes run across football. Do successful businessmen (or businessmen from China or other recently fast growing economies who become wealthy from hey, let’s go from a terrible economic system to one slightly less terrible but there’s 1.3 billion people here so just by doing this it means we’ll get 100s of billionaires and sons of billionaires) trying to apply business rules to football when 1) it’s still a sport with a necessary hierarchy with fixed market size – 3 teams get relegated no matter how well your business performs; we can’t have 7 Champions league qualifiers. 2) there’s no product differentiation – I’ve still got to play football not and can’t take my business to the less developed rugby sector 3) there’s no market differentiation –I’ll arbitrage and send my team to compete in the Eredivisie as I can more easily qualify for the Champions League there. It almost as though clubs act as though there‘s a set and agreed price list for every player and this is never to be adjusted to meet supply or demand.

I may have missed an answer to this saying “No way” but I’ve read a fair bit on McNally’s resignation and listened to interviews and other audio and haven’t heard this satisfactorily addressed. Is it possible that the board exploited a “mis-tweet” to get rid of McNally? We hear: -Saturday 8:25pm: McNally sends out strange tweet. This isn’t the time or the manner in which anyone would announce a serious resignation. -Sunday 1am: McNally renounces his tweet saying he intends to carry on. Sunday: The board meet to discuss McNally’s resignation and come to their decision. Monday: The announce they have accepted McNally’s resignation The key, and the bit that I may have missed, is whether it had gone on record that McNally reiterated his decision to resign on Sunday following the initial tweet and renouncing tweet. At the time of the Sunday meeting McNally I was only aware that he renounced his resignation - we were told that he wanted to carry on. So is it not possible that he sent out this tweet in frustration; stress; heat of moment; whilst having a vino etc. then immediately regretted it but the board exploit the situation by accepting his “mis-tweet”? If so did they use this as an excuse to get rid of him for football/ political issues , or did they find his position untenable following the tweet? The former would seem wrong; the latter excessively harsh. Or did he want to leave so badly that couldn’t bear waiting one more week until the season''s end and announce his resignation in a normal manner? I know which scenario seems the most likely to me.

So Jon Moss gets absolutely slated for his handling of Leicester - West Ham, while Big Sam gets the credit for masterminding Sunderland’s win with very little negative mention in the media about Marriner. It seems a case of one referee deciding in the last minute to even things up, and the other determined under no circumstances to be accused of evening things up even if to the point of knowingly making incorrect decisions. The Wisdom penalty – everyone agrees it was a penalty. I’d say it was a soft, one in ten one. A penalty should always be given when there is contact and the defender doesn’t get the ball; a penalty may sometimes be given (excessive force) when the defender gets to the ball first. Give that Marriner didn’t award either on Mbokani or Bassong when the defender clearly didn’t get the ball, I can only assume that he missed Wisdom’s touch. I just don’t think he’s good enough to process the subtlety of excessive force if he can’t get the simple things right. Okay when we slow it down and see the studs up most people say penalty, but this is actually how many tackles finish up – we just don’t see slowed down replays when the ball has been smashed in to row Z. There was no excessive force – Wisdom was in control of his standing foot. Had Wisdom got better contact on the ball and it had gone for a throw it wouldn’t have been awarded. But you shouldn’t award a penalty based on how much of the ball the defender gets. No appeals from the players. The second goal. Clear foul on Bassong, end of. Can’t believe he’s been criticised for not clearing earlier. He drew the challenge knowing he had control of the ball, and the only way he could lose it is if he were fouled. You can’t expect players to clear the ball as there’s a risk of being dispossessed if fouled. That’s just hindsight. Without the foul he’d have come away with the ball, and therefore the defence was out of position making Defoe’s finish easy. Almost identical to the foul on Klose for West Ham’s first goal in February. Fouls on Mbokani and Bassong. Both clear penalties. Okay I wouldn’t expect to get the one on Bassong as he made no effort to stay up and he plays for NCFC , but why should he? If pushed with both feet off the ground you can’t get a header in. There was a similar one when Mbokani was hauled down at a corner. As for the one on Mbokani by Kaboul, that’s an easy ten out of ten decision. So at 2-0 with 20 to play, that’s the end of the match. The referee decided the game and I can’t come to any other conclusion. In a low scoring sport in a match between two struggling teams, the first goal often wins. When 2-0 is decided by the referee and he then allows the opposition to foul in the box, NCFC had no chance. Sunderland were pretty awful prior to Mariner’s interventions playing long balls to Defoe that he failed to control. As for Jon Moss I think he was spot on for the Vardy red (Vardy instigates contact – that is also an off the ball foul – essentially striking an opponent off the ball so he can go over) and for the West Ham penalty. These are brave decisions which should be applauded as both have been going on all season. He then bottled the Huth penalty claim (although Huth was also grappling) then panicked and gave Leicester a penalty. 4/10. Marriner: Got all the decisions wrong, then was more concerned about his review and being accused of evening things up than he was about refereeing the match . Weak - 0/10. Still better than the -1/10 that I’d give Mark Clattenberg for his handling of West Ham v NCFC on NYD 2013 against er, Big Sam’s West Ham. Big Sam: For buttering up and intimidating referees – 10/10. Why wasn’t he sent off in the first half for pushing away Jerome and Howson? It was in front of the fourth official and Marriner himself. Alex Neil – 5/10. Without his best player, NCFC were slightly the better team until the second goal. Mannone made two good saves and we hit the post. 2/10 if you want a manager that constantly moans in the press and post-match, which would have ensured we didn’t have this refereeing performance. So why does it always happen to us? 1) Our manager doesn’t have a reputation for complaining compared to Big Sam. Marriner therefore chooses between a possible 2-2 draw that may relegate Sunderland and Allardyce in the post-match interviews accusing him of evening things up continued for the following week and the next time he has to referee Sunderland, or Alex Neil having to answer questions about why NCFC failed to perform. 2) Similarly choosing between being possibly the man who is the reason for Big Sam’s only relegation, or for a relegation of a ‘Championship team’ and manager just passing through. 3) As we don’t have foreign owners, we’re not considered a big club, a growing club or an investment in the media, so no one minds of we go down. Off the top of my head before this match, Jerome’s disallowed goal; no penalty at Newcastle or Chelsea, not one at Arsenal (blatant push by Flamini on Brady after throw in) or first push on Naismith v Liverpool in 1st half, not the one v Palace; offside goals by Newcastle, Stoke, Chelsea; penalties against v Leicester, Spurs & Bournemouth; foul on Klose for West Ham goal. (I’m sure there’s more). versus Howson’s handball v Newcastle, Rudd not being sent off v Bournemouth. (I’m not sure there’s more). No conspiracy theories, no betting patterns, just referees choosing the quiet(er) life. And who can blame them? Well everyone I hope. They are meant to be amongst the top 17 officials in one of the best and richest leagues in the world.

Yes, watched the MotD highlights today after seeing the match live on Saturday and couldn’t believe their selections. We only saw Jerome’s header and Redmond’s long range effort. What they elected to ignore was 1) Jerome’s simple one on one when he just needed to flick the ball passed Schmeichel who had made a terrible error coming out. It was similar to Agbonlahor’s goal against us following Rudd’s mistake v Villa and easier than the header; 2) a weak effort by Redmond that Schmeichel again messed up and the ball could have needed up anywhere but luckily squirmed away for a corner; 3) a good passing move that led to a goal bound curling effort from Jerome that was blocked by Morgan’s extended elbow in the penalty area. A strong claim for a penalty by half the team as the elbow was in an “unnatural position” IMO a penalty but worth a discussion on MotD. 4) Last minute sliced effort by Bamford that speared off wide. As MotD bothered to show a free kick from a similar position moments later that led to nothing and the final whistle, you’d have thought they’d have shown this chance for an equaliser. I wouldn’t call this bias on the BBC’s front, but very lazy – they showed the highlights to fit their narrative of Leicester plugging away all match and beating a defensive Norwich. We weren’t defensive at all – we just played a very deep back line, which was sensible and an indictment on all the top teams who have played them this season. WE looked by far the more dangerous team throughout. Off topic I can’t see Leicester being this lucky again over the remaining 11 matches. Whereas Man City, Arsenal and Spurs will win half of the remaining matches through being better than the opposition and another half of the remainder through playing well, I can’t see Leicester getting more one goal wins against opponents of similar and better quality. Actually I don’t Leicester winning more than one more game than NCFC over the final 11 matches. Not that I think it will be enough for either of us….. (that is Leicester 4th and knocked out of Champions League qualifier in July; perhaps 3 wins each. I think Leicester will be lower-mid-table next season and fighting the drop in seasons after that. As for us, I see it as like a cricket team that keeps putting down chances in the field. You only need to win ten matches to stay up and take ten wickets to bowl a team out. Sunderland and West Brom can play well ten times and win ten matches. I think we’ve played well 14 or 15 times and won 6……..