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[quote user="thecanaryfan"] Had Norwich had been dumped out of the FA Cup on Sat would Roeder have been sacked? I think he would. What is most remarkable was Roeders reaction to his saviour and the goal that saved his job! "I would have liked to have won the game". "But I think the lad [Shelvey] has got Premiership class stamped all over him, it was an absolutely fabulous strike, gave Marshy no chance." No a dicky bird about Lupoli!! Now thats gratitude for you isnt it?  Arturu: Roeder is a weasel. We think you''re awsome, we want you to start every game whilst you''re here and we will continue to chant your name each and every time our pathetic manager leaves you on the bench. [/quote]Also banging on about how he discovered him at West Ham, yes Glen fantastic you managed a big club, so Glenn how did it end up at West Ham then, oh you got them relegated then moaned your head off when they sacked you

[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Match Day Pie"]Give Roeder another season, and get behind him. How does anyone know he doesn''t have a good third season in him? How do we know this any more than whether any other manager will do well? We don''t, but we know he''s capable of getting in good players and playing good football. But it needs time to come together. This constant yo-yo-ing is no good for anyone. Mick Dennis maybe an ass-kisser but he''s dead right that if Stef and Kennedy had been fit we would be much better off. People here need to understand this is not the premier league, where you can sack a manager and chuck money at the problem. We need stability and it has to start now. Then maybe we can attract an investor. Because right now, who would want to buy a club that has had four managers in four years? Yes, the board have messed up and should go, but they cannot just leave without there being a plan. Until someone - anyone (it could be you!) comes up with a viable alternative, we have to stay with what we have because otherwise we''ll have NOTHING, and then you''ll all be wondering why an earth you forced people out without considering the consequences. If you want change, stop rocking the boat and start being be constructive for the god of our club. That''s if you''re not too scared to come out from behind your computer screen...[/quote] The line "but who else is there" is trotted out continuously by those that defend our failing managers. I accept that we have bigger problems than just the manager which will make it a tricky job for most candidates but I am also convinced there are others out there who would be able to get this squad of players more motivated and playing better on a regular basis primarily on the basis that those managers are not complete b**tards who fall out with any layers with a semblance of skill or talent. Consequently, on balance, I think its worth the risk if only because the new manager effect might see us get enough points to stay up. There are actually a large number of reasonable candidates out there if you look hard enough. Curishley (unrealistic I accept but you never know), Dowie, Boothroyd, Tilson are all half decent options. Personally though I would like to see us go for someone like Mark Robins who seems to be doing a good job under tough circumstances at Rotherham. [/quote]Very good call, think he would be a excellent choice, for me it would have to be someone with connections with the club, someone who would put the passion back in the club, ie big malkey, boothroyd, crook or as you say mark robins, bottom line is somebody needs to come in and give the players a massive lift and get us out of this position that roeder has put us in!

[quote user="PhatCanary"] 1 Wolverhampton Wanderers 26 18 4 4 54 30 58 24 2 Reading 26 15 6 5 53 24 51 29 3 Birmingham City 26 15 6 5 34 23 51 11 4 Cardiff City 26 11 11 4 36 25 44 11 5 Burnley 26 12 7 7 40 35 43 5 6 Sheffield United 26 11 8 7 37 25 41 12 7 Preston North End 26 12 5 9 36 32 41 4 8 Crystal Palace 26 11 7 8 38 28 40 10 9 Queens Park Rangers 26 10 8 8 25 26 38 -1 10 Ipswich Town 26 9 8 9 35 28 35 7 11 Swansea City 26 7 14 5 33 30 35 3 12 Bristol City 26 8 10 8 30 32 34 -2 13 Sheffield Wednesday 26 9 7 10 25 37 34 -12 14 Coventry City 26 8 9 9 29 31 33 -2 15 Plymouth Argyle 26 9 6 11 27 29 33 -2 16 Barnsley 26 9 5 12 28 32 32 -4 17 Blackpool 26 7 10 9 26 33 31 -7 18 Derby County 26 7 8 11 28 37 29 -9 19 Watford 26 7 6 13 38 44 27 -6 20 NORWICH CITY 26 7 5 14 32 42 26 -10 21 Nottingham Forest 26 5 9 12 26 38 24 -12 22 Doncaster Rovers 26 6 6 14 17 31 24 -14 23 Southampton 26 5 8 13 22 40 23 -18 24 Charlton Athletic 26 4 7 15 28 45 19 -17   OUT!!! FFS, look at the table, how can any fan can still support him? [/quote]quite right, how people don''t think it''s that bad is beyond me, we''re not going on a run like last season, when we go in the bottom 3 confidence will be lower than it is already and we''ll struggle big time to get out of it, i''ll be at sheffield and i''ll be protesting against him, thats all i can do but at least i''ll do it, he must be removed NOW!

he released one at the end of last season

[quote user="Wally"]the vast majority of pinkun message board users anyway. Unless you are on personal terms with every Norwich fan in the world![/quote]made me laugh what that mick dennis plank said, the roeder out mob is not the majority of fans as only a 3rd were singing it at charlton, well mick there will be even more singing it at sheffield utd and it will grow and grow, roeder has now lost the fans so it''s bye bye glenn,  

[quote user="IncH_HigH"] Dennis is and always has been Smith and Jones''s puppet. As said earlier in the thread, they treat him to a free lunch and off he goes gushing the love. Well Mr Dennis, time to wake up and smell the coffee. I agree we do have some good players(on their day) but a manager who has no idea how to get them going and is technically(football wise)clueless. [/quote]so if dennis is good friends with delia and he claims that they''re not going to sack roeder, then maybe she''s told him that she''s not going to, would be pretty stupid to tell someone that though in the position we''re in!

i don''t actually think delia will be that pleased with him 4 saying that they''ll stick with roeder and not sack him because if we lose the next 2 or 3 games then they know that they have no choice

ha, glad i was typing out my post as the other thread went up 2,

is Mick Dennis? on myfootballwriter .com saying delia and michael will be brave and not sack roeder, his opinion, the anti roeder mob do not represent the majoritys opinion, his opinion, insane to get rid of roeder full stop, again his opinion, who on earth is he?

100% no way, that man should not be allowed to manage a english football club again just like roeder!

roeder will sign him because he''s a toss*r,

anyone on here going i just bought a ticket and it was only 10 quid, great price! i''m convinced we''ll get buried but the protest against Roeder will make up 4 it, 10 quid to shout at him happy days.

Roeder is a complete pratt plain and simple, the more i read his interviews and comments the more i dislike him like i''m sure more and more fans are starting to, the man must be removed NOW!

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"][quote user="Mook"] [quote user="steve o"]the FACT is when Huckerby is in the team you''ve always got that chance, sadly we don''t have that anymore[/quote] If that is the FACT then why did we do so badly with him IN the team over the last 3 seasons? Sure he creates chances, but he also creates problems. I''d like him back, but he alone cannot make us into a good team like he did all those years ago. [/quote]   He would improve us without doubt cause he''d run at the opposition something David Bell hasn''t got in him!   In the 06/07 season when Earnie got injured Hucks goals in the 2nd half of the season kept us up! [/quote]correct mate, he got his 1st against tamworth i think then went on to get about 13

[quote user="Mook"] [quote user="steve o"]the FACT is when Huckerby is in the team you''ve always got that chance, sadly we don''t have that anymore[/quote] If that is the FACT then why did we do so badly with him IN the team over the last 3 seasons? Sure he creates chances, but he also creates problems. I''d like him back, but he alone cannot make us into a good team like he did all those years ago. [/quote]if you read it i never said we played well i said with him in the team we always had the chance, we looked a hell of a lot better with him in the team

the FACT is when Huckerby is in the team you''ve always got that chance, sadly we don''t have that anymore

i just sent email to neil doncaster asking him and he said we have not signed him

is this a joke? if not why are they letting Roeder waste money on his wages, Roeder thinks Lupoli is too lightweight well Sibierski definitely is, what a joke!

it has to be Glenn Roeder! probably wouldn''t even get odds on it at the bookies

[quote user="Creative Midfielder"][quote user="The Judge"][quote user="Creative Midfielder"][quote user="The Judge"] [quote user="colneycanary"]Its times like these that we need the press and media to put pressure on the board and let the board of directors know how the majority of fans, have had enough of Roeder. Again they are leaving things too late, just like they did with Grant and they actually admitted this too! They have to act NOW![/quote] So the majority of fans want him out do they ?? not me - not unless we have a new board and investment to go with it. Appreciate I may be in the minority on this web forum - but i know for sure that most of the supporters I know realise the main problem is the Board. Yes getting rid of Roeder may appease those out for his head - but i suppose you''ll be the ones shouting for the next manager to lose his job in 9 months time, when results haven''t changed due to lack of player budget, and the next one after that (maybe you''ll be more generous with him and give him 10 months..).. By all means change the manager when we have a new board in place - but nothing will fundamentally change unless we have new owners..   [/quote] I dont think most people do think the board is the main problem. How is the board, or the player budget which is certainly in the top half of this division, our main problem when we have struggled desperately for goals all season whilst our all-knowing manager has frozen out the most effective goal scorer at the club for over three months? I grew up watching Norwich when we really had no money. When managers had to play youngsters, or find good but cheap players in the lower leagues, or surprise, surprise, coach, organise and motivate the players that they already had rather than destroy their confidence as Roeder does. There are still mangers around who do these things and produce decent sides on far less money than Roeder has wasted but Roeder doesn''t have these qualities. In fact its pretty hard to identify any qualities that he does have, and I say that as someone who at the time thought he was a good appointment. A lot of people on here predicted he would be a one season wonder, which seemed to me to be harsh, but sadly they were spectacularily correct. He needs to go, and before he wastes any more of that budget that you are so concerned about.   [/quote] Yes I agree there could well be a manager or coach out there that may well make the current crop of players perform better. Are you however saying you know who this manager is ?? - if you do great... write in and tell the board (i.e. the same board who asked for ideas at the AGM) who they should appoint - but lets not forget that just because a manager has been good at one club doesn''t necessarily mean he will be good at Norwich. There are only a handful of managers that can move around clubs and be successful - there are far more that have tried and failed (and with a budget to change the team aswell).  Also let not forget getting rid of Roeder will mean a pay off - using up any money we may have - money I would rather have spend on the team... I''m not saying he is doing well - infact in an ideal world I would love to have him replaced by some who will give us a greater chance of success - but I stand by the fact that until the board are replaced any change in manager is likely to do more damage than good [/quote] I''m not saying that I could necessarily make the right appointment. As you point out even a manager who has been successful at one club wont automatically be successful at the next but there are managers out there who are doing precisely what I described. Simon Grayson, obviously no longer available, is a prime example of the sort of person I had in mind but are others out there. IMO replacing the manager, risky though it may be, is still our best chance of avoiding relegation this season. If we keep Roeder to the end of the season then we are looking at a high probability of relegation (plus dramatic fall in season ticket sales). Even if there were an alternative to the board waiting in the wings, which frankly seems unlikely then by the time they had taken over and brought a manager in (6 - 8 weeks at least) it would be too late to save the season. So I would still go with the current board changing the manager as our best option. My main worry would be that although, unlike many it would seem, I think the board has got a lot more right over the years than its got wrong, the one area that I would accept that they have a very poor record in is appointing managers. [/quote]they themselves will admit that to you if you ask, email doncaster with your questions and he''ll answer them!

in, another manager out, glenn roeder

[quote user="Binky"] [quote user="Arturo Lupoli"]we cannot afford for roeder to be sacked so u better get used to it[/quote] I think you are probably right. But don''t assume he will remain in post if a) his performance in terms of results stay as bad as they are and, b) his bizarre team selection and tactics remain as questionable. because if they do we will certainly be relegated. And (as I have said before) if we are - for the first time ever - Roeder''s managerial career will be well and truly finished. (He can forget about managing premiership clubs - only the most desperate of lower clubs would consider taking the risk he clearly keeps in that chip on his shoulder). Thus long before the season end, someone somewhere will whisper in his ear that it makes sense to go sooner rather than later. For his sake as much as the club''s. I think even he may listen to that advice. And even managerless, expect our squad "to do a Forest" and tuck away a run of good results.   [/quote]He can forget about managing championship clubs, i''m sure our board are whispering that in his ear right now!

fair enough mate, everyones entitled to one, my opinion is every club Roeder has got his hands on has suffered

prove it, what is his contract then?

[quote user="we8wba"]he maybe rubbish but wasnt he the signing large majority of the fans wanted in? shows even the fans get it wrong at times[/quote]that maybe the case but the fans are not getting paid thousands of pounds every week to look at players and decide weather they are right for the club, glen roeder is!