allways travelling

[quote]Always Travellin - If, as you suggest, the manager''s not to blame, do we get rid of the players then? That''ll be a first - it''s traditional for Clubs to get shot of their manager, not the team, when t...[/quote] How can it be the managers fault totally.Do you think our season to date has been ravaged with injuries i think so.Suppose thats worthys fault is it.Eleven win from 52 so your taking prem into the reckoning why dont you go back a further year and include the year we one the championship will this not make it look a lot healthier.But as your so intent in knocking worthy you look for all the bad statistics.I will say once again this season has not started due to injury crisis and no luck whatsoever.when we get a settled side and some overdue luck then come on here and start moaning at worthys rise up the table which is going to happen.With a full team out we would beat anyone in this leauge.So once again get of his back this is not doing the club any good. 

i would get some money on top three is gettable. providing we have had our injuries for this season we have had enough for two seasons this year already thats why we are 15th.

[quote]Always Travelling Be honest, didn''t you really expect us to beat Hull and Brighton - both clubs a few seasons ago a league below, why however have we not beaten Coventry, Leeds, Reading, Crewe and So...[/quote] Gazzathegreat I do agree with you on lots of points and i do believe worthy has made some errors this season.I do feel sorry for worthy this year its seems to be one of our worst seasons for injuries. what we need is a good run of matches with the same team this i felt was happening prior to millwall match. hull and brighton wasnt just beaten we looked different class.Something definately needs to be done with lots of our injuries seem to be coming from training sessions. we do get sell outs every week but surely this has been down to worthy success over the last few seasons so credit needs to go to him as well for this. When we were beaten by reading and leeds it was not deserved we was the better team but did not take our chances they did.luck and injuries has played a large part in our failures this season and i hope a change of luck is now with us whren we play qpr sat.I think we will keep our players if we are in the top six with the chance of play of finals. but if we fail to win them i think deano could well be on his way greeno also thats if he can get prem club. rest would stay with us.

[quote]Correct me if I''m wrong, but isn''t Worthy supposed to be the manager? Then, if you agree with that, then he must take responsibility for the team and how they play. Luton wasn''t just a flash in the ...[/quote] Some of your points are justified.Before safri got injured we beat hull we beat brighton things were starting to look half decent but  since then and before the millwall game we lost the entire regular midfield no side is big enough to cope with that.The one thing you do need is luck and i feel we are not getting it this year.the season we one the championship we had bucket loads of it.The mention of effort is a must in this division its in your face football unlike the prem where you do get more time on the ball.But i do still feel injuries our the main reason for our inconsistency this season as i said we just started to get a run going and we have had to change personell all over the place again and when its your midfield its the worst possible scenario. But i do agree worthy should have bought in one more  midfielder mind you the free signing of jarrett seems to highlight this more as he is not looking the part glad it was a freebie.Going back to the first fifteen mins at luton if we had got the 2-0 lead which you have to agree was unlucky it would have been a different game which we possibly would have gone on to win.This is why i say we are getting there we need a bit more lady luck. We lost three more points down to hucks and ashton missing pens in recent games which i would have put money on them bagging them.We have got to stick with him and the team this year at least.

[quote]People are basing their views on the whole of this season. The Luton game was not a one off. I still think we should give Worthy until the end of the season but if he does not get us promotion then a...[/quote] This i do agree he needs the whole season then judge him.Nothing to lose this year still have parachute money from prem to come We will finish in top six rest assured. 

[quote]however he could arrange for the players to pass the ball to each other, organise the defence, arrange some tactics, come up with some new set piece routines, generally give them a bit of passion in ...[/quote] So if the team was 2-0 up in first 15 mins. which we should have been is this due to worthys tactics or lack of passion i dont think so. It was just one of those nights. we are still only just of the top six and our season has not got going yet. Takes time to adjust to this division just look at the other two teams what came down.By the way cant hear any dowie out at the palace yet would you not agree there result at home to brighton was worse than ours.specially as we had lots of injuries to contend with and we was playing a team who has made a very good start.And i have just read rednapp feels his side is the best in this division and is confident of going up.his side has just drawn the last eight games he must be on tranquilisers.Things will turn for us soon that i do feel confident of. Just need to get leon  and safri back and hope we have  had our injuries quoter for this year.

Why is everyone putting the blame on worthy.He can and does send the team out fully focused.But as he says why we wasnt 2-0 up after the first 15 mins is hard to take.strikers  have to take full resposibility for this not worthy.After we went 1-0 down we all thought it a matter of time before we scored.Then enter greeno horror show happens to all goalies.still unable to blame worthy.We then start to panick and some more horrific defending leaves us with some mountain to climb.And by the way the horrific defending was made by the very defence every fan has been crying out for.Can anyone reading this still explain to me why worthy is getting berated for the first half showing.after a worthy rollicking we scored two goals second half and with a little bit more luck could have ended up with a point.Which before tonights game with the midfield injury list we have at the moment a point would have been most gratefull.Now all we are reading on these boards is the same old crap of worthy out.I feel these worthy out campaigners need to realise that worthy cant make the forwards score the goals. neither can he stop the defenders defending like a pub team.The team has to take full resposibility not worthy.Most fans and other managers admit we have one of the best teams in this division. Lets not forget worthy has built this team.So i suggest you all get of his back and start getting behind our manager.Even if it does look like the play offs this year.When we get our best eleven out this year and a little bit more rub of the green we can beat anyone in this division inluding the runaway leaders sheff utd.  

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[quote]I hate to admit this but this will be the only way any action will be taken, if we keep winning the odd game by the odd goal and then reverting back to poor performances and dropped points as we have ...[/quote] Sad very Sad all that can be said.Dont need your likes supporting us.

i like him still a kid with a lot of potential and constantly played out of his favoured position get behind him he will do ok.still dont think he is over the crowd reaction to boo him last season.a few more games and a few more goals lets hope his confidence is restored.could well be a suprise package this season he is definately a goalscorer.provider i am not so sure about.l

shackell would not entertain barnsley.last away game there i went to was depressing enough.Time has moved on they havent they could not afford him anyway even on loan.

[quote]Always travellin'' - I''ll swap your Samaritans number for that of either a good optician for you or a qualified psychgiatrist![/quote] i bet if you really tried you could have something positive to say about worthy and the boys.bite the bullett and admit worthy and the team are getting it together now and you do fancy us for promotion.  

[quote]When we get promotion? Out of the (seven) teams above us that we''ve played, we''ve only managed to beat one, and that''s a 10-man Binners team. I should wait until we''ve beaten the majority of the tea...[/quote] please please please post something of a positive nature. i am looking at all the good things which is happening at the moment and i truly believe we will get promoted this season.if you cant post one single positive comment about the club please leave the samaritans number because you aint half depressing me. 

[quote]We could have had no complaints if Brighton had equalised. Once Safri went off we were atrocious. We couldn''t retain the ball at all and just continued to concede possession cheaply. Still waiting ...[/quote] when we get promotion this season will you still be moaning if it has not been the way you want them to play.would you be happier if we start losing games 3-1 but dominate for 90 mins.surely you can see the improvements made.it has taken time since being relegated same with palace and southampton but worthy knows his best team now. and we are coming to terms with the in your face football of the championship.you have to win how ever you can.reading we outplayed and lost same applies to the leeds match.you will never dominate for 90mins in the championship not enough time or room is given unlike the prem.take your point about safri could really do with some more cover for him fingers crossed he stays injury free untill we get that cover.

oh dear three more points.and i do believe only three points of play of place. norwich fans who slated worthy hang your heads in shame.just a song comes to mind all gone quiet all gone quite all gone quite on here or sit down shut up sit down shut up get what i mean mateys.

definately in i would extend his contract further just to p--s the doubters off.

[quote]Hey, you sound like a true, loyal supporter. What would the club do without people like you?[/quote] well said again mate. ive a good mind to come of these boards for a while fed up of listening to all the doom and gloom merchants.they actually think its helping the club to keep whinging i am so pleased we have won tonight might p--s some of the worthy out brigade off.

nigel a good victory against hull and i think all the negative comments will fade away. providing we beat brighton as well. this could then start to see us climb the table and a bit of much needed confidence restored.but the one big mistake you cannot afford to make is to not play mcveigh the lad needs a good run in the side whichever system you play with.i suggest you play him up front with ashton he did well with iwan i can see the same partnership with ashton.  

nigel a good victory against hull and i think all the negative comments will fade away. providing we beat brighton as well. this could then start to see us climb the table and a bit of much needed confidence restored.but the one big mistake you cannot afford to make is to not play mcveigh the lad needs a good run in the side whichever system you play with.i suggest you play him up front with ashton he did well with iwan i can see the same partnership with ashton.  

[quote]I still support Worthy, though some of decisions have been questionable and I accept that. The issue is bigger than what he said in the interview, I think there was frustration there and what he said ...[/quote] took the words out of my mouth.

[quote]Yeah, really supportive to your club! Do us the world of good.[/quote] well said mate.

[quote]Always travellin!! your thought that it is always right to look to the positives. Not so, I''m afraid because the positives are the sections of our game that do not need addressing they are obvious fo...[/quote] fair comments all i am trying to suggest is whilst we have been going through a bad run before the ipswich game. we all needed to get behind the team as it only makes matters worse to continually knock the team when things are just not coming off. but i really feel we have started to turn the corner and i think worthy is starting to realise the eleven he needs out week in week out. a lot of peaple have been knocking signings we have made before they have had half a dozen games which is unfair. hughes to me looks the buisness with every game that passes but he is allways being questioned as another crap signing.i know everybody has there opinion but i just felt there has been to much negativity on here lately and i felt i needed to even it out a little.

[quote]I cannot be bothered to trade personal insults with you, AlwaysTravelling. I do suggest however that when you open a post by questioning someone''s intelligence that you go on to write something with ...[/quote] there you go again did we beat ipswich i think so was you happy with the three points and clean sheet. was you not pleased with worthy with regard to dropping fleming and shackell all positve points i think. lets stay positive about are beloved team.seriously can you not see the improvement in the team over the last few games another victory against cobblers with a clean sheet we was never out of first gear.now to reading on sat and i feel sure we will carry on the improvement and i think we will get another three points.must agree with you on the grammar point not the best dont understand the other word but i am being honest about that. that must be worth something.by the way if we are not playing that well but are gaining three points i will be happy with that.surely this must mean we are doing something right. 

[quote]''Always travellin'' - if you can''t reason or debate without resorting to peurile insults, try looking around for another message Board...matey...[/quote] i see your whinging again truth allways hurts.i am allways behind worthy and the team majority of my posts are positive. i suggest you dont read any of my posts as you only like to read the negatives posts about the team and there is plenty of these on these boards. you and balham yellow must be at the front of the line brigade to sack worthy very sad i think.                                                          

[quote]''Allways Travelling'' - people like you seriously do my head in. You seem to think that just because you''re happy with the rank average performances that we see week in week out that you are in some w...[/quote] balham yellow are you that thick.what was you expecting from last nights game.we used all the youngsters gave them a run out everybody he could play last night got a run out obviously to keep fitness levels and confidence in another victory going.worthy is not to bothered about staying in this competetion.it will get in the way of were we want to be. do you not think its going to take time to adjust to the championship after being relegated last year. have a look at the other teams that came down your learning now i hope.we have made a lot of changes this season and its obviously going to take time to gel. which based on the last few games watford second half ipswich victory i suppose thats allways easy to beat the scum on there patch.and now we have followed that by beating cobblers with an understrength side and continually having players subbed which disrupts any performance. the difference between me and you is i try to take some positives from every game there is allways some.where as you by the sound of you enjoy picking out all the negatives you must be one of the sack worthy brigade.try looking round for another team to follow so you can slag them off week in week out.try the scum up the road matey.