Wonder Wiganer

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I think you can forget this one. Super Lee has agreed a new deal in principal with Wigan and expects to sign his new contract next week.  

Utd signed him from Lyn Oslo, and a fee was agreed. However I think the way the deal has worked is that Chelsea have paid the fee that Utd were going to pay to Lyn and they have paid Man Utd £12 mill for taking over his contact.

Ok, so we are not a big club. We have only been in the league for the past 20 years or so. We sold Ellington for 3 million so that reduced the amount of money we spent. It really makes no difference attacking Wigan for having someone bankroll them. Delia has done that for Norwich on a number of occasions, paying for transfers and wages. It''s just that Mr Whelan has more money than her. I am sure if she had a bit more money then she would be doing more for Norwich in the transfer market. I still maintain the difference in us staying up and Norwich going down is the manager !!!!

[quote user="Trent Canary"]Wiganer - Whats the story with Jason Roberts? Is his pay offer really that bad? Or is he just trying to jump ship like Jimmy and Pascal?[/quote] Although Wigan as a club has money, they try and run a fairly tight wage structure. I think many of these palyers will get bigger wages elsewhere. I have to admit it is a bit worrying however I do trust PJ to bring in some good replacements. As long as we try and stop the rubbish one''s coming like Francis....  

Wigan did spend a reasonable amount of money however the players you have quoted above were either loan players or on free transfers. The only players we spent a lot of money on were Conolly (waste of money), Camara and Francis (complete waste of money). In total, I don''t think we actually spent that much more  then Norwich did when they got promoted. Jewell had some good existing players and bought a couple of cheap players who came good, such as Chimbonda. I think the real difference is the manager.

Jimmy is a london boy and as such I think he wants to head south again..... He has been excellent for us this season, but in the invervew with PJ yesterday he said that he thought Jimmy would have stayed if Wigan would match the wages Fulham were offering. PJ quite rightly said he would not be held to ramsom so Jimmy is off to Fulham. To me it seems like he has gone for the cash, similar to Ellington last year who is now about to be relegated with West Brom. I do have to ask how much agents play in all this putting things into players heads about how they could do better elsewhere. Lets just hope that your ex player Damian Francis follows him out the door this summer.

Why do you all go on all the time about our support! Considering where we have come from in last 20 years and all the other clubs in our area then we are doing ok. Year on year our gates are going up and a sustained period in the top flight will help. Neil Mellor scored yesterday and helped set up two goals. He did more in 1 game than Ashton has done all season. I am happy with Paul Jewell''s decisions in the main and Ashton would have brought nothing to our squad as he is half the player that Jason Roberts is.

You have no chance of getting either Wright or Taylor. Taylor has a broken foot so it out for most of the rest of the season. Plus Paul Jewell would not sell him. Due to the above injury, Jewell will keep Wright as cover.

[quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"]West ham are a bigger club than Norwich City. That is an indisputable fact based on history recent and long term. Come on .. the move was an inevitable consequence of relegation at least he is not at Wigan, Birmingham or West Brom. Deano deserves Premiership football and we should be delighted he stayed over the summer. What''s important is to make sure this money is spent properly. Earnshaw???[/quote] Thank god he isn''t at Wigan. Paul Jewell had the sense to realise he wasn''t worth that much money! The only reason Ashton has gone to West Ham is because that''s the only club prepared to pay ''silly'' money for him. No other premiership clubs wanted him at that price.

To be honest not sure what is going on with Francis. Since the start of the season we have changed personnel in midfield. At the start of the season he was first choice but Bullard was being played out of position on the right. Since then Bullard has been moved to the centre along side Kavanagh with Teale on the right. I do think that Paul Jewell does not seem overly impressed. He did say he was going to put him on last night when we lost McCulloch and Conolley to injury but chose to put on our new player (Sharner) instead. I know the fans are not overly impressed either. He has scored one goal this season but that was early on. His form has certainly dipped from earlier in the season. You will be happy to know that my other half who is a Norwich fan still boo''s him when we go to a Wigan match.    

I have tried to ask this question in another post so thought I would post it as a topic. Seriously what team do the Norwich fans think would buy Ashton? None of the ''big'' teams will as they don''t need strikers. Some of the teams that have been spoken about clearly won''t be in for him. Birmingham have got Sutton, Man City according to reports only have about 5 million to spend, Portsmouth have been linked with other strikers. I am genuinely interested in who you think might buy him. Thanks  

[quote user="charlies dad"]Lets hope every outsider was watching Ashton and is only judging him on one bad game. Unfortunately most observers will know that he is the real deal. It will really rankle if Ashton goes to a ''little'' premier club, as opposed to a ''proper'' one.  [/quote] I take it you are referring to Wigan by the ''little'' reference. I will agree that we have no premiership pedigree being that this season is the first time we have ever been in the premiership. However in my opinion we have made a real good start to becoming in your opinion a ''proper'' permiership club. Having already achieved 34 points with only half the season gone. I have actually seen Ashton a number of times and not only once. I have never been impressed however I have to admit he seems to have gone backwards as a player over this season. Hence the reason for my question. If anyone from the premiership either ''little'' or ''proper'' were watching him then I don''t think they will have been impressed. It was a real question about who might buy him, especially at the money you seem to think you will get for him.

A serious question for you all here. Everyone keeps saying that Ashton is going to be snapped up by someone. But seriously who do you think would buy him? I was at the match on Monday and saw him play and he was awful. He can''t hold the ball up and does not take on defenders at all.  

The reason Jewell has come back with interest is because he must have thought the price would be cheaper. Ashton has hardley set the world alight this season!!! Paul Jewell is no fool and he certainly won''t be paying over the odds for players he feels is not worth the price tag. We easily have the money to buy him so it''s just a case of Norwich putting a silly price on him.

[quote user="a1canary"]I can assure you Mr Jewell was and is more than interested in Ashton. And he hasn''t ever made a secret of it. You''re clearly talking from a position of not having seen Ashton play this season. When he hasn''t been injured or playing whilst nursing a broken face, he has shone like a beacon out of all 22 players on the pitch. [/quote] I agree that Mr Jewell was interested in Ashton at the start of the season. However at that point he was living on previous reputation from last year. Based on this seasons performance I don''t think Mr Jewell will be knocking for him in January. If he has been such a shining beacon why have so many Norwich fans been on here moaning about how rubbish he has been so far......

Don''t think Wigan would be interested in Ashton. Especially with how he has performed so far this season.

[quote]My apologies Wiganer , it must have been 14 years since I was up there ! touch of the sour grapes coming through I`m afraid Passion and belief eh , and [ ooer ] a manager that motivates the p...[/quote] Apology accepted. You might have been thinking of Springfield Park our old ground. Don''t be too gloomy about Norwich''s predicament there is still a lot of the season left....

You have obviously never been to the JJB stadium if you think the stadium is not fit to let your dog sleep in....... It''s a fantastic well built and modern ground. The reason Wigan are doing well is because they play with passion and belief and have a fantastic manager who can motivate his players.

[quote]i saw it on planetfootball.com but now it just says leeds are closing in on him. Maybe worthy is in the middle trying to do something. who knows. all i know is we need someone to fill the midfield[/quote] Have a look at this. Norwich won''t be able to do anything. He''s gone to Leeds. http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1778_806666,00.html

http://www.wiganlatics.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10429~728503,00.html Have a look at the above link. Francis is currently in the top 5 permiership midfielders according to the opta stats. All the Norwich fans wanted him to go, so if he''s happy somewhere else why should you bother. All the fans were moaning about his performances in the second half of last season. Maybe there was a reason for that but at least he is enjoying his football now. Plus if we stay up Norwich will get more money from Wigan which can only be good for you.

[quote]not to mention Roy Keane thinks he''s rubbish[/quote] Too late for you guys, he''s already gone to Leeds.

[quote]If Wonder Wiganer is reading this thread I would be very interested in some further input from you regarding Jarrett. I know you offered reasons why Wigan was prepared to let him go but what is your o...[/quote] I get up to games as often as I can and have seen Jarrett play quite a bit. Although last season with his broken leg, he did not play that many games. To be honest each time I have seen him I have seen varying performances. I have seen him play absolutely rubbish and be taken off quite early in the game. Some games OK and then in the game on the last day of the season last year against Reading he was awsome and pretty much man of the match. To be honest though he performed OK but didn''t really set the world on fire on the whole. My other half who is a season ticket holder at carrow road, came up to the Reading game with me and when it was announced Jarrett was coming to Norwich, was really excited about him being part of the team based on that performance. I do think that opinion has changed though.

Not having a go, but we do have a lot of clubs to compete against for a fan base and are a relatively new club in the football league. I am more than happy with the number of fans as year on year the numbers grow. I haven''t really compared the clubs at all in previous posts, merely management styles and ambition. I wish Norwich well in their struggle and now that we may be in a similar position in the future. Having been to Carrow Road on a number of occasions, it is a great ground with very vocal fans. It''s others on here who keep comparing Norwich in the prem to Wigan/West Ham now. Living in Norfolk and being a Wigan fan is great at the moment, especially with a partner who is a Norwich season ticket holder!!!!!

[quote]Philbuzz - Wigan are definitely not a better club than us. They may have a better team than us right now, they are certainly achieving more but time will tell. I think you miss the point on money if...[/quote] Wigan may have lots of money but the chairman does not believe in throwing it about willy nilly. Hence the reason Norwich ended up with Jason Jarrett. He was going to be paid a basic salary and then on top of that extra money for each appearance. Given the number of game he has played for Norwich then I think you can see now why he jumped ship when you offered him more money.... Ellington was a similar situation, the Chairman would not give big wages to a player not proven in the premiership. As for our fan base. Norwich are competing with who exactly for their fans? Wigan have to compete with Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd, Man City, Blackburn, Bolton. All long established teams who have been in the top leagues for a lot longer than us and all within about a 25 mile radius. You can''t compare Norwich and Wigan because they are completely different types of club. I think the big difference though is that we have a chairman who is ambitious and wants to push the club forward. I would question if Norwich have that at the moment.