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Haha! Says the man who just posted a link saying the "French wages war on Britain" (not sure why NI is excluded). Grow up indeed you fool.

The wonderful legacy of brexit: Uk fishermen's lives being ruined, EU fishermen's lives being ruined, and we're wasting hundreds of thousands of taxpayer's money sending in the Navy to precipitate a potential international incident with a market economy that is vital to the industry. Yes indeed! so much to be positive about this calamitous act of gross self-harm.

Yes it does, it simply changed its name to the Reform Party. Can't believe you're so ignorant about this since it wasn't that long ago you joyously announced the name change on this site, and happily told us you had sent in your membership fee.

So they are literally threatening them with guns are they?

Perhaps Jools would be better off listening to a police officer who was beaten up by the Jan 6th insurrectionists: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dc-police-officer-slams-disgraceful-political-indifference-in-wake-of-6-january-capitol-riot/ar-BB1gpk3G?ocid=msedgntp DC police officer slams ‘disgraceful’ political indifference in wake of 6 January Capitol riot “As the physical injuries gradually subsided in crept the psychological trauma,” wrote officer Michael Fanone, who has served with the Metro police for nearly two decades. “I struggle daily with the emotional anxiety of having survived such a traumatic event but I also struggle with the anxiety of hearing those who continue to downplay the events of that day and those who would ignore them altogether with their lack of acknowledgement.” During the 6 January riots, five people were killed and more than 100 officers were injured, the culmination of weeks of baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election spread by Mr Trump and adopted by his Republican allies in Congress. Mr Fanone described the horror of what he saw defending one of the Capitol’s west entrances. “I was pulled out into the crowd, away from my fellow officers, beaten with fists, metal objects, stripped of my issued badge, radio and ammunition magazine and electrocuted numerous times with a Taser,” he said. “The fighting here was nothing short of brutal,” he added. “Many of these officers were injured, bleeding and fatigued but they continued to fight.” But those most responsible for causing what happened haven’t faced many meaningful consequences, while others hold fast to their challenge of the election results even though it’s long been clear, from numerous failed lawsuits and successful recounts and vote audits, that Joe Biden was the outright winner of the presidential contest. Following the riot, Mr Trump became the first president to be impeached twice, but he escaped conviction in the Senate with numerous Republican votes for acquittal. Senators like Josh Hawley, one of the key leaders in challenging the election results in Congress, have stuck by their stance in recent days. On a recent Washington Post podcast, he defended an infamous photo of him offering a celebratory fist pump to a crowd of Trump supporters outside the Capitol moments before the riots began. “I waved to them, gave them the thumbs up, pumped my fist to them and thanked them for being there, and they had every right to do that,” the Missouri Republican said on Monday on the Washington Post Live broadcast.

I suggest this is not a good line for an apologist for Jeffrey Epstein to use.

I suspect the next update will have to include his prisoner number.

Try reading my posts and then say something that might be even remotely accurate or relevant.

Indeed! A bit difficult for Mitch, as head of the "party of law and order", not to admit the reality of Trump's defeat, given that every court in the land threw out Trump's lawsuits.

Glad to see you back posting your QAnonce vids. Missed the joy of laughing at their lunacy.

I would be more than delighted to be relieved of the need to respond to childish quips. So if you do me the courtesy of shutting up making such comments we could all get on with discussing the issues.

Well that's an interesting take that probably says more about you than it does about me. How you get "belittling the genocide" (I assume you mean the holocaust) out of that is quite remarkable. And to think you're one of those that complains about "woke" and "cancel culture".

Gosh! No one could possibly suspect that you have included all this garbage to disguise your persistent childish game of accusing me of being Bill could they. Truly childish and pathetic! Grow up man.

You have made that claim on many occasions as you know full well. As for the pic comparison that offended you so much, you must have a very low "offence threshold" if you were so devastated by a comparison between Laurence Fox and Reinhard Heydrich (the resemblance is very striking). However, since you have pledged not to make such pointless accusations I will happily take you for your word and look forward to posts that focus on the actual issues.

For God sake do stop this ridiculous Billy nonsense. It's plain to see that your playground name calling is a very poorly disguised attempt to distract from the fact you have no answer to the links I have provided. Just grow up you sad child.

And Biden won in the USA. Is there any point to making such claims on this specific thread?

I would love one of you lot to explain to me (and that includes Bill) why you engage in this playground behaviour of accusing other people of masquerading as other posters. It really is name calling of the most childish kind. Firstly, I fail to see how you can have any evidence for such a claim. Secondly, what is supposed to be the benefit of posting under multiple identities? Thirdly, I couldn't give a damn whether any of you lot post under other names, so why does the possibility concern you so much? I am seriously perplexed as to why you would rather indulge in this Bart Simpson like behaviour than discuss the issues at hand. Frankly it is nothing more than an irritation that you want to claim that I am really Bill or any of the other names you wish to cite (although a simple grasp of basic linguistic analysis would quickly disabuse you of such nonsense), the fact is I have only ever posted under this name. What really perplexes me is that grown men (it seems to be exclusively men) actually find something worthwhile in posting this absurd tripe. So do feel free to tell me just why you think it is so important to throw around such meaningless unfounded allegations. I just don't get what you think it achieves.

Thanks to brexit the Dutch seem to be doing nicely at the UK's expense: This was happening two years prior to our departure from the EU https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/brexit-uk-companies-discuss-moving-to-netherlands https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-no-deal-uk-netherlands-company-relocation-a9080666.html Reports from this year: https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/firms-choose-netherlands-over-britain-due-to-brexit-7564056 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/30/uk-firms-plan-to-shift-across-channel-after-brexit-chaos https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs. Thousands of small businesses have been plunged into crisis by the UK’s departure from the EU, with exports to the continent collapsing because of delays at ports, increased shipping costs, and the sudden addition of VAT, customs duties, and in some cases tariffs, on shipments sent from the UK to customers within the bloc. An absolute killer': small UK firms struggle with Brexit VAT rules Many have been left with no option but to invest in distribution networks within the EU, and the Dutch logistics industry is reaping the rewards.

So that was you was it? I could never quite hear what you were saying.

I suspect that there is no one on this site who would be unhappy with the general support of Enlightenment liberal values that the Omer espouses. He certainly has my support in that respect. Where I differ from him is in his implication that those values have now been effectively overthrown, and we are now in the grip of Stalinistic "woke" authoritarians who have destroyed free speech (I can't help pointing out the irony that all these doomsters claiming the end of free speech seem to find little difficulty in getting their views heard). I have said on many occasions that I am against the so-called "no platforming" of people like Gernaine Greer and Jenny Murray and find it regretful that some students have been naive enough to think this will help promote equality for all. However, let's get real about this; the idea that these fringe activists are posing a threat to the foundational Enlightenment liberal values that underpin Western democracy is at best fanciful, at worse plain lunacy. So let me offer you a personal story of my own in response to the personal story of the author of the linked article. Sometime ago I introduced an interdisciplinary module specifically on the Enlightenment to the curriculum of a strongly multi-cultural UK university. I felt that most young people in this country had reached university level education without explicitly encountering any real discussion of the Enlightenment principles upon which the democracy and culture they encounted was, and continues to be, founded. I made the bold claim to them that there was not any issue of current cultural significance that could be properly understood if one ignored the importance of the inherited Enlightenment values in framing those issues (so, for example, Omer's rejection of fundamentalist ideology is only explicable in terms of those Enlightenment values promoting autonomy and rationality). The module covers a large range of issues including, free speech, religion, fundamentalism, human rights, tolerance, equality etc, etc. From the beginning the module was a roaring success, so much so that the Vice Chancellor happened to be walking by a group of students on a lecture break one evening and overheard them enthusiastically discussing how much they thought the module was fascinating and essential for all students in order to understand their lives and education. The VC was so moved by this she emailed a description of the encounter to the entire university. Each year's module evaluations confirmed this view of the students' attitude towards the module and the importance of understanding Enlightenment values. No doubt I have recounted this story to brag a little and allow a bit of unashamed pride to expose itself. However, more importantly I have recounted it to show that talk of the demise of Western cultural values in the face of authoritarian "wokism" is somewhat premature. My experience is very different from Omar's; the students I encounter continue to be individuals who embrace the core tenets of Enlightenment thinking. No doubt they have to learn to navigate the swelling seas of a social media tsunami of lies that threatens to drown out the true and the valuable, but I retain a faith based on experience that they will prove more than capable of swimming towards the light. Absolutely one should speak out against the very small group of individuals and fundamentalists who attack free speech, but let's not elevate them to a power and influence they clearly do not have.

It will be a unique experience; the only website exclusively consisting of one syllable words.

Only a fool would not be worried when his country's main market for exports (circa 50%) is suffering losses because of decisions his own country made. The EU didn't choose brexit you buffoon. Are you really trying to claim that it's ok that brexit has seriously screwed up UK industry because it also screwed up the EU too? Is this some perverse variant on the normal "win-win" aim of a standard trade deal? Are we now pursuing a "lose-lose" strategy?

You have been challenged many, many times to come up with the name of a UK company or industry that claims to have benefited from brexit. We have pointed out the thousands that flood the internet claiming to have lost out because of brexit. For example, you have still said nothing about the £1.1bn lost by the dairy industry since January. So, since you keep banging on about it, I'm looking forward to your "positive" list of companies that have said they have benefited from brexit

Grandmother knitted me a yellow and green scarf that was about 80ft long.

Got to be up there with the top "left-footers" the club has ever had. Paid his transfer fee back in spades.