Loughborough Canary

Nope.  Mine isn''t.  And either the West Brom commentators are biased or we''re really struggling.

None of the above are working.  does anyone know the web address for the stream so we can use that directly?

This is a serious concern. Not only is it disappointing for Norwich fans to be denied seats by these people, but also theres the risk of disturbances in the stands. It can also spoil the game for our own fans to some extent. The good thing about the lack of tickets for casual supporters these days is that every seat is accounted for. Each an every seat sold for a game has a season ticket holder or member associated with it. So we should really note down the seat number of any away supporter and inform the club. If enough people do take such steps, the club might be able to take more action and people be put off offering their tickets to away fans in the future. After all, it is a security risk for the club to have fans mixing so its in their interests.

Yep, I agree. The whole squad is important and we want them to be full of confidence when their time comes. I''m worried about Svensson. Hes a good player whos just had a couple of iffy games. I''m dreading the carrow road response if he plays on Sat and doesn''t perform - we mustn''t sap his confidence. Its not in our interests. Even if we do get another target man, it doesn''t mean that Svensson is suddenly unimportant. He scored some really good and important goals last season and judging by the season review dvd, was unlucky not to get a few more spectacular ones. Whats letting him down at the moment is his touch. He had touch last season and just because it hasn''t happened so far in the prem for him doesn''t mean hes suddenly lost that touch. Also, hes not winning headers, but thats not really his fault as hes not a big bloke. When playing with sven, we need to resist the temptation to play hopeful long balls from the back.

Whoops! I''m thinking of trever. lol

Former palace links might be clouding his judgement I think.

Matthew, you''re not doing him any favours at all with that post to be honest. a) There hasn''t been any speculation over his future here; b) I''m certain he hasn''t been linked with any other clubs; c) What volatile relationship with Worthy and Steve Foley? As far as I''m concerned you''ve just inadvertently created more rumours.

The pundits seem quick to praise Dowie''s pedigree, but I think its a bit premature. Maybe he''s a great manager in the making or maybe he was just in the right place at the right time last season. Surely Worthy''s much more proven at this stage.

"I fear for Norwich. West Brom have been there before and have therefore learnt about hanging on. You never know about Crystal Palace under Ian Dowie." Now theres a surprise.

Transfers might be a little out of date unfortunately. In PES3 Chelsea''s line-up was really out of date after their summer spending spree. Having said that the report on www.pesinsight.com did say that the early version of PES4 appeared to have more up to date team rosters, so who knows. Theres quite a few video clips of winning eleven 8 around at the moment. If you don''t already know about www.pesfan.com, go to the winning eleven discussion board at http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=127 and search through the video thread. Theres a recording of an entire match which looks really sweet. Oh yeah, you have to register by the way.

Yeah, but don''t other games like This is Football still get the license?

"romped" - I like that bit.

Its looking good, its just that the news hasn''t been confirmed by konami yet. If they can get full licenses for Spanish and Italian leagues then surely the Prem should be a possibility. The yellow and green is gonna look so good on screen, but our stats are gonna be absolutely awful. Maybe someone at carrow road could confirm whether they''ve been approached by Konami - dunno if it works like that.

Yeah, just to reiterate. I don''t know if many of you guys do this, but if you buy an X-port cable (about £18 at play.com) then you can download a fully complete option file from www.pesfan.com. Some really committed people there spend loads of time making all the names, kits, team flags and transfers etc accurate so you don''t have to do any of the work. The outlay of £18 really is worth it and the option file you get is much better than the one you can buy from the shops. Plus they do updates all throughout the year to keep transfers up to date. Sorry if you lot already know this.

The link is http://www.pesinsight.com/news.php#fus_189 By the way that doesn''t mean the team will be official, just that they''re there, but who knows what will happen by the release. There''ll definitely be a free to download option file with all the accurate names, data etc on www.pesfan.com out on the release date (plus subsequent updates) so if you get that, it shouldn''t matter too much. If the Prem isn''t official then it''ll be funny to see what team name they give us, maybe Norfolk.

It definitely sounds like Norwich will be in it. Not the stadium though. The Japanese version, Winning Eleven 8 has just been released and it has last years prem teams. So thats probably where the info that you read came from Alex. But there was some kind of games show event thingy recently where gamers got a chance to play an early version of PES4 and it had the new prem lineup. I''ll have a look for the link.

To anyone who plays the Pro Evolution games (better than Fifa in a lot of peoples opinions), I''ve just found out that the new game, PES4, will for the first time ever feature a full and up to date premiership line-up. That means the mighty Norwich will be on there and I''m really happy about it. To anyone else, that probably sounds a bit sad, but believe me its the best footy sim around and Norwich''s inclusion will only make it better.

Wolves losing was pretty good too. Couldn''t help but smile.

Totally agree with your comfort zone comment YankeeCanary. Its frustrating when the crowds totally quiet, but you personally really want to get behind the team to help them. But, then you don''t feel confident enough to stick your neck out to try and get the supporters around you going. I remember at the play-off final, a period when our fans went quiet (probably after they''d equalised - can''t recall exactly), but it was so frustrating and I couldn''t understand it. That was our one chance and I didn''t feel we were giving it our all. Last season showed me just how important the crowd is, I hope everyone realises - but its easier said than done. If I was Worthy I''d tell the likes of Huckerby etc to do anything necessary to stir up a quiet crowd - you know, clenched fists waved in our direction and the like. Sometimes I find myself hoping for a shocking referee decision just to ignite the crowd.

My problem with this whole situation is that we''re speculating about the this and thats of the possible transfer when we don''t even know enough of the facts. I personally don''t believe we''ve discussed terms at all with Primus if a bid hasn''t been accepted. Correct me if I''m wrong, but I thought this supposed doubling of wages report came from a tabloid and we don''t normally believe what they say.

They always said that the dvd would be released the week commencing 26th July. They didn''t actually say it would be released on the 26th exactly. I pre-ordered mine through the mail order service and phoned yesterday to check. They said it would hopefully be out by the end of the week.

Looking back at this story http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/3894303.stm makes interesting reading. So Mandaric doesn''t like being ''held to ransome'' by players who''ve had more lucrative offers from elsewhere. If its true that we''ve offered to double his wages then he could well be our man. On the other hand, how could we be talking contracts with him if Pompey haven''t yet accepted a bid as I understand the case is from reading certain stories.

I don''t think Bentley is necessarily guaranteed a place, but hes certainly guaranteed a better chance of making the first team here than at Arsenal.

1st Wiz, I agree that Safri''s disciplinary record is poor and it does concern me too, but it seems like you''ve taken this one yellow card as concrete proof that his bad behaviour will continue. I think its too early for us to make any such judgements. Worthy himself said after the game that Safri''s discipline was something they''d have to work on and I believe that Worthy is capable of changing his approach and so far he hasn''t had the chance to do so. Worthy has given Safri a chance for premiership football, something which he has apparently longed for since he first came to England so surely he would be prepared to give something to Worthy in return. Finally, just because he may be a bit hot headed on the pitch doesn''t necessarily mean hes a ''bad apple''. As an example take Kevin Muscat, we all know what he''s like on the pitch, but according to Iwan in his book he''s a really decent bloke off the pitch. Patrick Vieira has had his disciplinary problems in the past, but I don''t see him being anything other than an inspiration to others in the Arsenal squad.

How can you form an opinion when you don''t even know how he got the yellow? Could have been an honest, but late tackle.