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Now we only need 5!!!!  Magic eh?!  Doesn''t that make everyone feel better?   ..Oh, yes, and 2 draws.... But that''s kinda like the remainder when doing posh sums.   I''ve worked out that if we win against Coventry we''re down to 4 wins required. If we Draw against Coventry we will still only need only 4 wins!!  ...and,urm, 4 draws! But worse case scenario is if we lose to Cov - then we STILL only need 4 wins... plus and just an additional draw (is it 5 now?).   Can''t see why people are panicking, come win, lose or draw we''re safe!!  After 5 more games there will be no more "MUST WIN!!"''ers left to play, and we can sail home with... uhhhhmmmm... 18 draws.   How many games we got left this season? Anyone know?

I hope the listing is all multicoloured with flashing text that reads:   "GOING FAST!!!" ...At least, they have the potential to!

Hang on a minute, there was still seating when we had terracing... So the 8 yr old law students can still get to sit on the comfy chairs and put their bags down in a safe place.. *Stares seriously for a while* Nope, Sorry, can''t keep the straight face - i''m going to have to run away and laugh..

Excuse me, my maths are completely wrong there, Leeds finished on 36 (+10 = 46) - So Hull stayed up on their own merits.  Seems like so long ago now!! ..If its ok with everyone, i''ll just sit here and cry until morning regardless.

http://footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season2006-07/Championship2006-07.htm 42 Points appears to be the lowest in recent times (As link above)... However this is distorted somewhat as Leeds had their 10 points deducted which put them rock bottom, Hull would''ve been relegated with 49 points otherwise. Thats food for thought when you consider where Hull are now.... ...I may go cry somewhere! :)

He''s gotta be fit enough to play at least 25 minutes, surely!  Grass is grass last time i checked, and unless there''s something unusual about the goal structure at Carrow road i see no reason to not just give him a go before his confidence is shot. Luke Daley would go in too if i had my way!! :)

Ok, so let''s all pretend that Gunny''s had a few to drink to tonight, he''s come on here (as you do) and like a fool promised to read out a single message from all of us who posts on his spangly new thread, read to the players in the dressing room before kick off. This isn''t intended to be a thread for discussion (I thought i''d make that clear incase he, or his backroom staff are reading *Waves* and decides to print what we come up with and share with the players... You never know!! Stop laughing at the back!). The question is, What would you write?  Or rather, Post here what you would write..  It''s gotta be better than the crappy baseball film that Worthy used to show the players before a big match! :)

Comeon, lets cheer ourselves up... One at a time please!!  We can get to 10 easily!!! :) Good, special or unique things about our beloved club... I''ll start you off: 1. We''ve got the WORLD''S oldest football song in use today!  (On the ball City)

[quote user="koimatsuba"]I have a 2 year old daughter, and wife[/quote] .....And you''d rather be at home on a Saturday than out with the lads?? (I joke by the way!)

What''s his current status? Is he injured?

[quote user="Gazza"]I feel sick tonight after seeing the results, we really are in the worst position we have been in over thirty years of supporting the club..............[/quote] Probably shouldn''t post this as it won''t make you feel any better, but here''s our position history: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/Norwich_City_F.C._League_finishes_1920_to_2007.png Urm... I still beleive... honest!   (Makes terrible viewing tho!)

Alternately, wouldn''t it be funny if we ensured survival AND killed their playoff ambitions at Portman Road? It would almost make the season worthwhile!! :)

[quote user="Nexus_Canary"] Ok, you just took it too far, Im happy to go for it in the stands but on the Intenet ? *goes off to find a binner to abuse on some random forum* [/quote] Even better, lets be the first club to have e-thugs, sod the Binners, i''m thinking big time.. I''ve got a shedload of characters in a microsoft word document that need rooting out and throwing here, let the Millwall supporters have a taste of their own medicine!!! :)

Erm, incase i look a total nutcase, i must explain that the above is a (very) long way of saying don''t be afraid of saying what you really feel, even if it is fear of whatever may happen to the club should relegation happen.  I feel that if we all stay positive it can only have a good affect on outcomes, wherease negativity just gets you nowhere. Come judgement day this season and we get relegated, it really doesnt matter who predicted we would go down or not, it''s not an exam... For me, i admit i''m terrified.. Whenever i think of Norwich i think of Neil Adams sounding really rejected after the Charlton match, and he said something along the lines that if we carry on how we are we will surely get relegated and he hates to think what will happen to the club. This rings round and round in my head, no-one knows what will happen, but for me the bottom line is that we still have the club... And that responsibilty comes down to all of us to ensure it stays as it is... I do think we''ll survive purely because i don''t like to give it up and feel there''s a long way to go still. Show your support everyone, whether you think we''re relegation certs or not, there''s no reason you can''t support the club, after all that''s you, me and every supporter on here thats part of it.  I want to see all the negative posters just giving that up, have a break Wizards and Smudgers, and show the world that you''re a Norwich supporter through thick and through thin! Reply to me with a rallying cry of  "NEVER SAY DIE!" We''ll show the internet what it means to be a Norwich fan! No waffle here, i''ve posted all that at the start, The biggest and brightest fonts are all welcome!! COME ON!!! LETS GET BEHIND THIS CLUB!!  Let the players hear your yells and may they take it on board!!   ...I shouldnt drink when coming on here! :-/

...Remember that?? Never say die!!! ...NEVER SAY DIE AT CARROW ROAD!! NEVER    SAY     DIE!!!!!!!!!!  Where''s it gone eh??  Look at our league position, look at the games in hand teams have on us... Hell, we could all come on here tonight and post how we''re going down, the club is doomed and the board should be sacked....  Ok, so off you go, make the post....  Subject... ermm.. "We''ve had it!!!".. Yeah that will look good and get a read. Done? Excellent.... Now what?   Feel good? I bet you do... You know that you''re probably going to be right don''t you?  ...That prediction, that post you just made...  Oh.... That feels great doesnt it!!  Well done. All you''ve got to do now is wait for the next match, probably be a win or a draw so you can come back later and post how correct you were in your prediction... Superb!!  It kinda takes away the crap that''s actually going on doesn''t it?  Hides the worry that you have for the club, the emptiness you felt a few hours previous when the opposition scored in the 89th minute..... Still, you''re spot on! You''ve made your feelings known and you won''t look a prat after we''ve been relegated!!!  Thats gotta be worth something, right?! Wooooaaahh! Time flies! ..Not looking good.. 4 games left and it''s been back to back defeats now, it''s mathematically impossible to stay up if Norwich lose tomorrow!! Hmmm.. What to post tonight?, it''s been a bit depressing on there lately, Everything''s that needed to be said has been, Maybe it will all change and the team will hit a 4-win streak and edge safety...  Although look around, everyone''s so depressed.. The gates are down, there''s been protests at the last 4 matches... It''s clear there''s no buyers for the club, yet everyone still protest!!   But for what?   Ipswich, Reading and Charlton to play after this.. So much to think about, Probably just go to bed. Work Work Work! Probably not worth attending the match tonight is it?  I expect you''re feelin tired... Mind you, you''ve already paid for your seat so would be silly wasting the money... Oh sod it, Cheese on toast and jump in the car! Same ol'' car journey, probably have those idiots behind you complaining all match, they''re right in what they say though aren''t they? Fotheringham is bloody useless yet the manager picks him, Doherty can''t help but hang his arms all over the opposition whenever the ball comes in, Hoolahan just gives the ball away when he tries his fancy stuff and Not to mention all the blinking loan players.  In fact why don''t you just sit there with them and complain all match.  Should have done it when they first voiced their concern really. It''s just not on!!! It''s so obvious and everyone must be thinking it, so why don''t they just go ahead and say it? Oh look out there, quick! out your car window, there''s a family going in.... What have they got to be so bloody cheerful about?  "Kids get in for a quid today!" The dad shouts, must have seen your Norwich air freshner.... Hmph must be dreadful turnout tonight if they''re playing that card again... "Remember me ol'' man taking me!! Haven''t missed a game since and it''s my little''uns 8th birthday, thought i''d let him have a taste while we''re still 2nd tier! Things aren''t looking too good!!" he laughs. How can they be so happy? You''re sure to get relegated today!!! Ahh, fortress Carrow Road, Here we are!... There''s Charles on the entrance.. Probably thinking about his job no doubt.. Poor old sod..  Go on, say something... ask him what he thinks the result''s gonna be..  "Fans are up for this one mate!! Not seen it so electric up here since the Ipswich match."   Look around, he''s right! Watford are having a right banter with the home supporters.. You can''t help yourself... "GOING DOWN! GOING DOWN! GOING DOWN!".. you join in as you take your seat.  Ah yes, this is how it should be every week!! "I expect fotheringham''s in as usual".. You hear the guy behind you.. Players haven''t even come out yet and he''s complaining... Say something, i dare you!  "PUT A SOCK IN IT!!", oh my god!! Did you just shout that?!  You nutcase... Still, they''ve gone quiet... don''t turn round, it will look too obvious it was you.  So what if he''s playing, he may play well tonight..  "City! City! City!"... You get caught up in the atmosphere..  Yeah... Have some of that scumbags! Heyup! Players are coming out.. The cheer is deafening!! GET IN THERE! OH YES!  "Yellows! Yellows! Yellows!".... It''s been a good match so far, don''t you agree?  Atmosphere is electric and the team really seem up for it. Oh!!! Doc''s just made a critical tackle! Certain goal otherwise!! "Oh my lord, he didnt take the man out".. Oh, it''s the voice from behind again.   Just ignore them...   "Doc! Doc! Doc!"... You loon! Sit down, you can get arrested for yelling for a doc! Oh wait, listen to that... The whole of the Barclay is singing it now... Get in! You started that! That''ll shut the tit up behind you.  Amazing realy, a single voice instantly multiplied into several thousand within seconds!   Look at you, you''ve got a huge grin on your face!  You''re really enjoying this match aren''t you? Stand up!! You won''t be able to see otherwise!! Hoolahan''s breaking through 3 defenders.. OH THATS GOTTA BE A FOUL!!! ...Yell, go on! Put some pressure on the ref!! Thats it!!  YES! Yellow card! And a freekick outside the area!!  "Shoulda been off, Ref!" ok, ok, steady on.. Dont get too carried away. "Get the nets out, Fotheringhams taking the freekick... what a waste!!".. Yup, him again... He''s really putting a downer on the day isnt he? I bet fozzy would be able to hit his mouth from the half line if he had the chance..  heh, don''t laugh, you''ll look mad.  Come''on fozzy, come''on... will it in, concentrate... Ha! Look down...You got your lucky socks on today, not worn them for a while have you? Yeah, just a coincidence, sure... Geez, when was the last match, was that...  must''ve bee.. OHMYGOD!! What just happened!? We''ve scored!!!  WE''VE SCORED!! What happened though...!!??  "EFFING GENIUS!!".. Eh??! "Talk about catching them by surprise!".... WHAT HAPPENED!? CANT SEE!! Ask the guy behind he''s the one yelling genius.  "Played a quick freekick mate... Through to Cureton... Boosh!! Back of the net.. COME ON YOU CITY!!".  Oh, so he''s developed a crush for his least liked player now has he?? Oh, who cares, at least he''s enjoying it!! 2-0!! CORT HEADER!! Look at Gunny, he''s jumped on Crooky''s back...!! .....Ow! 2-1! That must have been offside!! It''s always your team with the bad luck isnt it?, Halftime coming, probably worth running down now if you need to go! ...Zziiip!.....  2-2!? How did that happen? It''s on the tv screen over there.. Look!! Oh, man you must be gutted, only popped out for 2 minutes too!! At least you didnt have to endure it going in, defending was terrible looking at the replay! Here we go, 2nd half.. Brace yourself boy, this is it!! Do-Or-Die as they say!! I can''t stand the torment of watching you go through this, lets fast forward... 88th Minute, Still 2-2... Phew, thats good isn''t it? Oh! Who''s that? Excellent through ball, is it your team?! No it''s not!! John Eustace through on goal... Scores... simple as that.   2-3 Watford. You''ve got tears in your eyes! Why you crying?  Thats it!?? Thats what? ...Relegation?? You told a thousand people on that forum-thingy that you were getting relegated, you didn''t even want to come tonight...  Just protest at the board, give up supporting that crap in front of you and go home... You were right on the way up here, i don''t know why you got so involved with the game, they''ve let you down so often before, do you learn? No...! Oh, before you go! Look who i''ve just seen!! over there in the corner, it''s mr Happy and his kid... Idiot, still chanting.. The board will walk all over him and his finances.   Wait, there''s a cheer... It was offside!! No Goal!! Eustace looks gutted, he''s claiming he was clearly on.  You told me you never get the decisions from refs!  Look''s like Lappins coming on for the last few minutes, Hoolahan hasn''t been moving comfortably since he was clattered 5 minutes ago. Norwich have taken the freekick, hoofed the ball long up to Cort, Ahh.. it''s come straight back, Clingan has it... Knocks it wide to Lappin... What a ball!! HANDBALL!! Thats gotta be handball!! Look at the guy next to you! He''s gone mad!! All seems a bit tense there!!! YOU''VE GOT IT! Penalty for Norwich!!! Right in the last last minute....But you knew that!!! Ok ok ok.. calm down... calm down.... Clingan places the ball, your stomach tingles like a small flame is fluttering inside, a flame that has been lit since the first day you stepped into this ground... You look at the guy and his kid again, they''re hugging, his boy looks excited... You scan across the stadium, it''s full, full of people like you.. All there for the same reason, because they love the club in front of them, the club around them!... Not because they want to wave when the premiership camera is on them, not because there''s a 25 million pound striker who''s hair they admire but because the Club is simply in their veins!!! Clingan steps back, he looks determined... Looks down at the ball.... In that moment you realise that it makes little difference if he scores or if he blazes it over, there''s more crucial matches that the club has to win, maybe not this season, could be next, it could be another relegation battle, a League one playoff or even another stint in Europe,  you think back to the many men that have stood where you are now sat, the changes the club has seen, the good and the bad days.  The club will live on, because you and the many supporters around you live on... You are the club, the very thing that keeps things ticking here. Clingan turns.. Runs at the ball... Hits it with all his might.......                .....Never say die!

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] like i said, teams take us lightly "Its only Norwich... " the teams that say lets get at em are the ones that beat us.. we win when its offered to us.. we can''t fight our way to victory, in most games anyway. [/quote] Let''s take Wolves as a case in question then, lost 7 games this season... The only defeats outside the top 10 was from us and Coventry... And we completely annhilated them.  The rest were from teams around the playoff zone. You cannot seriously tell me that they put their guard down for lower opposition as it''s not factually, or at least statistically correct.  For you to make the statement as above you must have us down as being a laughing stock in the division, beyond that of anyone around us? Personally, I feel the suggestion you''ve levelled at Wolves is more apt for our mighty club.  And i think that attitude comes from the pedigree of player we bring to the club... We seem on a desperate quest for Ex-Prem players, Ex-Prem youngsters etc.  We should be looking at players on the way up with an hunger, who see the likes of Doncaster, Plymouth and Barnsley as a challenge.  I hope i''m wrong, because we can all accept a loss, but it''s hard to accept players not fulfilling their ability as they''re not motivated.

[quote user="lincoln canary"] her " wheres the commentry, i cant hear it" absoulutley priceless, i remind her of it very often! [/quote] lol, i hate to think what you get away with at home.... "Yes dear, it''s quite normal....." ;) Reminds me of my missus hitting her head quite hard on the bedside table, She woke me up, tears streaming and all she could muster was: "I''ve just hit my tuddy bed on the bable!" i was unprepared so cracked up laughing in her face.... She is reminded of this often too. :)

[quote user="Phil E Stein"] To put it as concisely as possible: We Are Crap! [/quote] Yet we''ve put 8 goals past the league leaders in 2 games? I don''t buy the doom and gloom theories myself, very few teams outplay us, and we actually perform better against the tougher opposition. Why? I haven''t a clue!

When i was younger (15/16) i remember being in the Barclay when it was terraced, group of about 4 men... All had the build of Dart players, if you know what i mean!  Anyway, they were being quite rowdy, jumping up and down and hitting into everyone.. Obviously beered up.  I don''t know exactly what happened (It was normal to jump about then!) but for some reason they received special attention from the stewards.   It was all good humour but they kept hassling the stewards as when they turned their backs they would insult them and then behave like schoolboys when they came walking up.. This went on for a while, and you could see the other 3 were constantly egging on the 4th man to go further than the rest.  At some point (10/15 mins in) the stewards decided to lose their humour with them, and the old bill were called up. It went very serious and a scuffle ensued which eventually got the 4th guy arrested, as he was being cuffed up and carted away the remaining guys were begging with the police to let him go, saying that he had a wife and kids at home, and if they left him here they''d make sure he would behave etc....  They sobered up and looked quite sincere.... However, After he was taken out of the pen, they all started to cheer and party, turned out from listening to their conversation afterwards that there was a bet made earlier that day that they could get this guy arrested, it then transpired that he had never been to a match before and they had told him he''d be ok with them in the Barclay, there was then this silence as you could see them all thinking about the situation, at which point one of the guys said "You know, his wife is gonna kill us!".

I got thinking whilst reading the Shackell thread (Dont listen to the ***** Shax) and how player of the season was brought into discussion. Anyone else find it fascinating that despite our league position we could probably all name at least 3 genuine potentials for player of the season? It just makes me wonder where it fell down this season, i don''t beleive in luck so i''m not putting it down to bad luck... So has it just been lapses in concentration at critical points in (critical) games?  or the fact that we feel we''re just the ''good guys'' of the league and therefore don''t make things easier for ourselves (e.g. the club could have appealed for a change of ref prior to a ball being kicked against Bristol)?  Maybe the players lack motivation and therefore only perform in the bigger matches? This would make some sense when you consider the squad is made from players wanting or have previously played premiership football.  Therefore would it be worth placing a player like Cody into the team who in the short term would treat every match as an FA Cup final? Maybe it is simply down to not having that clinical striker?  But then the stats don''t lie as we''ve scored at least the same as 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th positioned teams of the championship. I appreciate that in reality it''s a combination of things, but then to address them you need to break it down one at a time. So what i''m asking in a (very) long way is: What for you is the single major mis-firing component in our squad this season that''s left us rooted to the bottom of the table?

Are we the next Crewe would be closer than Champs equivalent of Arsenal in my mind.

Just been on the live text update offered by Archant...    Trouble is the chat ends after the match, i feel that i''m hanging in the dry now!! Pity there wasnt something where we could rush into after the match to mingle and laugh in unison at Canary call! :) Unless there''s some chat paradise that im missing?? Great result! :)

[quote user="pete_norw"] Yes and if you had hopes on a better job you wouldn''t slagg the boss off would you, Neil is in his pocket,One wronge word and close the door on your way out   [/quote] I think you''re being a tad paranoid there mate, he''s probably got a nice life right now, nice mix of jobs, interaction with a club he evidently loves... Why the hell would he want to jump into the current boiling pot at Carrow Road?  Would be suicide for the guy, and he knows it. I''m only going by the commentary, but we were all over Watford, just lacked that finish... Crap happens, we conceeded 2 sloppy goals, game over.... I can totally understand why he''s defending the team from total idiots that call up.

"Everywhere we go, Everyone praises our incredible fans" The guy just hasn''t got a clue!!! Isn''t it "People always ask us!".... Followed by "Whooo wee''are?"... "Everyone praises our incredible fans" just doesn''t fit, it''s ludicrous to even attempt 11 syllables into a 3 syllable passage!  I thought the guy was good with his numbers!!??  Well he should think again!! This man is a danger to the terraces!!!

I''m trying to remember exactly what GR said about someone holding a ''promise'' in regards to getting new players in a few weeks back... It''s not to do with the promise that the Turners were going to put a further 2mil was it? Ohhh, this is like one big agatha christie novel! :)