So frustrating, but we have to stick with it

[a1canary 0]

I''m trying to get my 4year old in to football and Norwich but the team are not helping when they are causing me to pace around the kitchen screaming at the radio. Yesterday was a painful listen, as much because we were a toe, a foot and several decent crosses away from tearing that Villa side a new one.

But it''s hard not to think it''s coming. We know that we are perfectly capable of putting decent balls in, i dont know what the problem was yesterday. I''d certainly like to see Fox given a go alongside Tettey to give us another creative option.

We have got to stick with Hoots and the boys though because if yesterday told us one thing it is that Villa have a huge rebuilding job on their hands and that we are a lot closer to having a competitive mid table Premier League side than they are.

[Jacko 0]

I am bitterly disappointed we didn''t win yesterday. Which is an encouraging sign in itself and shows we are doing a lot of stuff right. We''re definitely getting there and improving. We also appear to have settled on the core of our best side now. Which is what Hughton has been striving for.

I think we have a better starting XI than Villa but also just as importantly everyone should remember this is a squad game. I felt we genuinely had players coming off the bench in Morison, Snodgrass who had a very positive effect on the game when they came on. Villa didn''t have that luxury (apart from Bent who seems a man on the way out) and are very reliant on their kids.

I think as a Norwich fan you can feel optimistic and encouraged by what you saw yesterday. If I were an Aston Villa fan I would be much more concerned by what has just been served up yesterday.

[Kathy 823]

Stick with it. Both my children''s formative years coincided with the later Chase years and what followed. I kept saying to them ''It does get better than this. Really''. My son in particular went to school with lots of plastic Man U and Liverpool fans. Yet hey have both grown up died in the wool City fans.Your four year old is awakening to NCFC during much better times. I thought yesterday we looked the ''big club''. Better team, better fans, better set up. I''m sure he''ll be a fan before you know it.

[nutty nigel 7,963]

This is the thing Kathy. We started off by loving LOL Morgan and mid-table obscurity with the excitement of the FA Cup being the seasons highlight. If we ere knocked out of the cup in the 3rd round we''d have a friendly against a first division team on 4th round day. I remember one season the highlight was one such friendly and the visit of Forest and Ian Storey-Moore! I think that''s why we appreciate the good times a little bit more than those who''s formative years were the most succesful years in the late 80''s early 90s. There expectations are naturally a lot higher than ours.

 

So next time you see Duncan you can tell him how spoilt he was as a child. No Wembley heartbreak for his generation. One visit - one win. Simples! [;)]

 

 

[a1canary 0]

Disagree a little there Nuts. My formative years were the late 80s and early 90s and not surprisingly the bug really got hold of me in the Walker era. But the fall from grace from that time was so rapid i could scarcely believe it. I wrote to Robert Chase as a teenager begging him not to sell Sutton. He wrote back, assuring me he wouldn''t. Wish i still had that letter!

What followed - relegation and then a decade in the wilderness of a Division 1 that was league 1 at best by today''s standard - was enough to make sure any small modicum of success in future would be savoured like the elixir of the holy grail itself. I''m certain that what you describe will have had the same effect for you and may well have been even worse standards wiase.

But anyone who in the 90s experienced first hand the awfulness of dire defeats at places like Boundary Park, Vale Park, Turf Moor, Prenton Park in the fog, to name a few, will know how to appreciate what we have enjoyed recently, i can assure you of that!

[Bws Cat 0]

Just don''t let the lad any where near the plastic fans.

They corrupt.

[nutty nigel 7,963]

[quote user="a1canary"]Disagree a little there Nuts. My formative years were the late 80s and early 90s and not surprisingly the bug really got hold of me in the Walker era. But the fall from grace from that time was so rapid i could scarcely believe it. I wrote to Robert Chase as a teenager begging him not to sell Sutton. He wrote back, assuring me he wouldn''t. Wish i still had that letter! What followed - relegation and then a decade in the wilderness of a Division 1 that was league 1 at best by today''s standard - was enough to make sure any small modicum of success in future would be savoured like the elixir of the holy grail itself. I''m certain that what you describe will have had the same effect for you and may well have been even worse standards wiase. But anyone who in the 90s experienced first hand the awfulness of dire defeats at places like Boundary Park, Vale Park, Turf Moor, Prenton Park in the fog, to name a few, will know how to appreciate what we have enjoyed recently, i can assure you of that![/quote]

 

I was having a little bit of fun with Kathy and Duncan really a1. But I do think in some cases the expectations are set by the club''s status in a fan''s formaive years. You read it on here at times. I''ve lost count how many times I''ve read statements about being brought up with the club on an equal footing to Manchester United, Liverpool and the like. The truth is that those years were the exception rather than the rule.

 

But you''re right. I made a generalisation and we''re all individuals. Duncan has a similar outlook to you. My daughter Helen went through Walker2, Rioch, Hamilton and then had the euphoria of the Worthy years! (Sharing that time with her is probably why I rate it so highly).

 

It''s the bad times that make the good times soooo good for us Canary supporters.

 

 

[Kathy 823]

[quote user=" BWs Cat"]Just don''t let the lad any where near the plastic fans. They corrupt.[/quote]

 

Well he''s 26 and six foot three now, so he tends to do as he pleases.

[Bws Cat 0]

Wasn''t talking to you kathy....

[Gingerpele 0]

Listening was frustrating?

[Kathy 823]

[quote user="BWs Cat"]Wasn''t talking to you kathy....[/quote]

Oops! See that now.

Unfortunately that''s nigh on impossible BW. Even at the very earliest birthday parties, at least one child would invariably turn up in a spanking new top four strip. I had to make a real effort to be nice to their mothers.

[a1canary 0]

Kathy is right BW, it will be difficult now my lad has just started school. One of his cousins has a full Arsenal kit that she wears all the time. Being in the Prem helps though, as does being relatively nearby so having some other fans around.

[a1canary 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

[quote user="a1canary"]Disagree a little there Nuts. My formative years were the late 80s and early 90s and not surprisingly the bug really got hold of me in the Walker era. But the fall from grace from that time was so rapid i could scarcely believe it. I wrote to Robert Chase as a teenager begging him not to sell Sutton. He wrote back, assuring me he wouldn''t. Wish i still had that letter! What followed - relegation and then a decade in the wilderness of a Division 1 that was league 1 at best by today''s standard - was enough to make sure any small modicum of success in future would be savoured like the elixir of the holy grail itself. I''m certain that what you describe will have had the same effect for you and may well have been even worse standards wiase. But anyone who in the 90s experienced first hand the awfulness of dire defeats at places like Boundary Park, Vale Park, Turf Moor, Prenton Park in the fog, to name a few, will know how to appreciate what we have enjoyed recently, i can assure you of that![/quote]

 

I was having a little bit of fun with Kathy and Duncan really a1. But I do think in some cases the expectations are set by the club''s status in a fan''s formaive years. You read it on here at times. I''ve lost count how many times I''ve read statements about being brought up with the club on an equal footing to Manchester United, Liverpool and the like. The truth is that those years were the exception rather than the rule.

 

But you''re right. I made a generalisation and we''re all individuals. Duncan has a similar outlook to you. My daughter Helen went through Walker2, Rioch, Hamilton and then had the euphoria of the Worthy years! (Sharing that time with her is probably why I rate it so highly).

 

It''s the bad times that make the good times soooo good for us Canary supporters.

 

 

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Well walker2 hamilton and rioch almost perfectly encapsulates the dark period i was referring to. I think you''re dead right about expectations and early experiences. You woul think that any age of fan will have had their expectations lowered by that period. But it was interesting the affect Worthy''s promotion and subsequent relegation had on expectations. Going by many fans reaction to that, you might have thought the preceeding decade of abject mediocrity had never happened.

[Bws Cat 0]

It''s the Chelsea shirts which I think will be coming out about now.

Just teach your child how blue and white always equals bad things.

[Bill 1,788]

"but the team are not helping when they are causing me to pace around the kitchen screaming at the radio"

 

I know how you feel, but you wait till you switch it on, it gets even worse then

 

 

but A1 surely you can watch it on the internet - it is also easier on the stress levels as you can see how close etc stuff is whereas the radio can cause heart failure just by the commentators over excitement

 

 

[York Canary 29]

I can''t listen to us play on the radio it is just too much pour moi! I can just about handle watching them lol