Performance related pay

[a1canary 0]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8546656.stm

This is NOT the answer to any rethink of football pay. A rethink is needed but PRP is just a loophole for making sure the players at the top of the game continue to receive over-inflated pay packets. What about clubs like ours, for whom just staying in the prem would be a massive achievement? How do you link performance related pay to finishing 17th in the league?

SALARY CAP - get it into your heads FIFA!

[paul moy 235]

[quote user="a1canary"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8546656.stm This is NOT the answer to any rethink of football pay. A rethink is needed but PRP is just a loophole for making sure the players at the top of the game continue to receive over-inflated pay packets. What about clubs like ours, for whom just staying in the prem would be a massive achievement? How do you link performance related pay to finishing 17th in the league? SALARY CAP - get it into your heads FIFA![/quote]

There is already PRP in the form of appearance and win/draw bonuses. As far as position in the league is concerned a bonus could be paid at the end of the season based on final league position, but additional incentive could be achieved throughout the season by having a bonus for current league standing, rising or falling depending on periodic (weekly/monthly) position.    

 

[Glenn Foy 0]

There does have to be some sort of pay cap, and you''re right, it does have to come from FIFA. For example, if the FA implemented a pay cap per week of say, £30,000, then all the higher paid players would go to Spain or Italy etc. I agree with the pay cap, but it has to come from FIFA and be implemented worldwide.

[AndyCanary 0]

I think a straight forward pay cap is the wrong way to go.What''s needed is a pay structure that relates directly to the clubs financial status... Perhaps related to their turnover. I''m sure I read that wages equated to over 70% of Pompeys turnover. That''s ridiculous.. The rule would extend to not allow the turnover to be subsidised by big investors like Arabs etc.. look at Notts County!This sort of scenario would cause clubs to invest heavily in their youth structure as selling talented youngsters would become a major part of their income.

[paul moy 235]

A pay cap would come automatically if a similar rule was implemented that exists in Div 2.... ie: only 65% of income to be spent on players salaries.

[The Butler 0]

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.

Our most succesful years were based on this method of paying.

You performed, you got well paid as the club did well

It certainly worked then.

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,609]

[quote user="The Butler"]

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.

Our most succesful years were based on this method of paying.

You performed, you got well paid as the club did well

It certainly worked then.

[/quote]

As mentioned above all clubs base their method of payment on this. Bonuses for goals/wins/assists/clean sheets etc. An end of season payout based on final league position and if players meet certain targets i.e. number of goals scored etc. Also cup runs will give a bonus payment as well, Chase certainly didn''t think of this scheme, it has been around for a very long time.

I don''t agree with the idea of a salary cap, as it would create unfair differences between Leagues, Euro compared to Pound, tax rates etc. It is up to clubs to act responsibly and if they don''t then they will face the consequences. The big clubs will still be able to afford more quality players and give them all the maximum wages. The key to success for clubs with smaller budgets is youth development and good scouting (the second being the more profitable). A good example is Arsenal, until the Emirates was completed they had a very modest turnover but have managed relative success, to be honest Man United don''t spend massive amounts on players and don''t pay the same kind of wages as Chelsea or Man City but have brought through great young players and bought emerging talents before they are hugely expensive.

[The Butler 0]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="The Butler"]

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.

Our most succesful years were based on this method of paying.

You performed, you got well paid as the club did well

It certainly worked then.

[/quote]

As mentioned above all clubs base their method of payment on this. Bonuses for goals/wins/assists/clean sheets etc. An end of season payout based on final league position and if players meet certain targets i.e. number of goals scored etc. Also cup runs will give a bonus payment as well, Chase certainly didn''t think of this scheme, it has been around for a very long time.

I don''t agree with the idea of a salary cap, as it would create unfair differences between Leagues, Euro compared to Pound, tax rates etc. It is up to clubs to act responsibly and if they don''t then they will face the consequences. The big clubs will still be able to afford more quality players and give them all the maximum wages. The key to success for clubs with smaller budgets is youth development and good scouting (the second being the more profitable). A good example is Arsenal, until the Emirates was completed they had a very modest turnover but have managed relative success, to be honest Man United don''t spend massive amounts on players and don''t pay the same kind of wages as Chelsea or Man City but have brought through great young players and bought emerging talents before they are hugely expensive.

[/quote]

I think if you check he used a slightly different method and the ratio of pay/bonus was much greater to the bonus side.

Somehow this stupid spirral of wage/transfer fees has got to stop and Portsmouth may be the key that stops it. An example IS going to be set and HMSO are the ones who are going to make sure it is. Or at least get their share if it''s not[:D]

[morty 0]

[quote user="The Butler"]

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.

Our most succesful years were based on this method of paying.

You performed, you got well paid as the club did well

It certainly worked then.

[/quote]But it clearly didn''t work, or he would still be in charge and we''d be in the Premiership! All of a sudden he saw fit to sell all our players to balance the books, so there was clearly a flaw in his cunning plan!

[a1canary 0]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="The Butler"]

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.

Our most succesful years were based on this method of paying.

You performed, you got well paid as the club did well

It certainly worked then.

[/quote]

As mentioned above all clubs base their method of payment on this. Bonuses for goals/wins/assists/clean sheets etc. An end of season payout based on final league position and if players meet certain targets i.e. number of goals scored etc. Also cup runs will give a bonus payment as well, Chase certainly didn''t think of this scheme, it has been around for a very long time.

I don''t agree with the idea of a salary cap, as it would create unfair differences between Leagues, Euro compared to Pound, tax rates etc. It is up to clubs to act responsibly and if they don''t then they will face the consequences. The big clubs will still be able to afford more quality players and give them all the maximum wages. The key to success for clubs with smaller budgets is youth development and good scouting (the second being the more profitable). A good example is Arsenal, until the Emirates was completed they had a very modest turnover but have managed relative success, to be honest Man United don''t spend massive amounts on players and don''t pay the same kind of wages as Chelsea or Man City but have brought through great young players and bought emerging talents before they are hugely expensive.

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Come on BGY - unfairness is Chelsea being able to spend like they''re playing a game of Monopoly with no regard to debt, while others in the same league have to try (and often fail) to live within meagre means. You''re not seriously concerned that exchange rates might be unfair!? Just set the cap in dollars or something. There''s a way round that if there''s a will. If ALL clubs are paying on the basis of goal/clean sheet/assists bonuses (are you sure? sounds like you''ve been playing too much fantasy football!!) and have been doing so for a long time, it clearly isn''t working. Hence calls for a review of player pay structures/salaries.

 

[First Jedi 0]

Percentage of income should limit either transfers, wages or both. Schimples.