Training

[Carlos Valderrama 0]

The club are changing the training session time to 10.30, it was 11. 

Is this for real.  Most people start work at 9.00, some (me included) start at 8.00.  How long do they train for 2 hours, maybe 3.  Absolutely pathetic.

Get these under achievers in at 8.30 until they win a game.  When they win 1 it gets moved to 9, win 2 in a row and it gets moved to 9.30 etc etc.  Get a draw and it doesnt change, lose and it gets put back half hour.

We need to get these people motivated, they also need a kick up the arse. Perhaps the only way to do this is to mess with there comfort zone.

[Beaker 0]

its all about optimal training zones and training times. some people dont build up enough ''chi'' until late morning so i put forth thus reason for thou predicament

[Sue 0]

I totally agree Jimmy500 I don''t believe in all that Chi s***e. Personally I think it''sabout as much use as a chocolate tea pot!!

[Alan_Grey 0]

What do they even do in training? Perhaps I should ask Neil Adams.

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

[quote user="jimmy500"]

The club are changing the training session time to 10.30, it was 11. 

Is this for real.  Most people start work at 9.00, some (me included) start at 8.00.  How long do they train for 2 hours, maybe 3.  Absolutely pathetic.

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Is there any truth in the rumour that the players only train for ONE hour? I hope the rumour is wrong.

Training should start at 9.30am.

[gazzathegreat 0]

I have always wondered why training seems to only last a couple of hours. I didn''t go and watch any under Grant, but under NW they started at 10.30 or so and went on till 12 noon (give or take a few mins). In this time they did a variety of things, all of them, barring the injured players, focusing on corners, free kicks, five or more a sides etc.

However, afterwards they spent more time in the canteen (or whatever fancy name they have for it) than outside. As Colney is now accessible to fans again, perhaps I might go up there and see what improvements have been made in the extra time they now have available.

[BCanary 0]

Fair play with all that sports science stuff, but it''s not doing us much good at the minute is it? Our squad seems massively unfit compared to teams we play and for some reason we seem to be the most injury prone side in the world.I''d have them at training for 6am every day of the week after a defeat (9am for a win/acceptable performance), and have them all watching football tapes, discussing tactics, etc. etc.

[0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0]

I''ve said for the last three seasons our team was not fit enough and I still believe it especially after Watford, sports science is an aide for training as are heart rate monitors there is no replacement for bloody hard work on the training ground. 

[canary cherub 1]

I have the impression that most clubs nowadays expect their players to be professional enough to work on maintaining their fitness in the afternoons, either at the training ground or using the multitude of gym/fitness facilities that are available now. "Training sessions" thus consist mostly of ball work.  In the past training used to start earlier and they did everything under supervision - remember the runs up Mousehold? - then they were completely free in the afternoons and many of them went off to play golf.

Players now are treated more like responsible adults and are expected to employ self-discipline, which in principle is a good thing - but clearly it doesn''t always work in practice.  Some players do take their fitness seriously, but others are not as "defined" as they could be either physically or mentally, and it shows.

To put this in context, there is more emphasis on athleticism in football than there used to be, and the average player today is probably fitter than ever before.  Some of our "heroes" of the not too distant past could smoke 20 a day and still perform, which might not be the case in the modern game. And once the season was over that was it for most of them until they reported back for training in July.  Now they are expected to maintain a basic level of fitness during the close season.

Individual players do need to take responsibility for their own fitness, but imo the game itself is still playing catchup when it comes to understanding all the implications of what it means for players to be athletes.  It needs to start in the Academy so that by the time they become professionals, maintaining their fitness will be second nature. 

 

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

Bring back the Trowse sweat box!

 

 

[BCanary 0]

[quote user="Fat Prophet"]

I have the impression that most clubs nowadays expect their players to be professional enough to work on maintaining their fitness in the afternoons, either at the training ground or using the multitude of gym/fitness facilities that are available now. "Training sessions" thus consist mostly of ball work.  In the past training used to start earlier and they did everything under supervision - remember the runs up Mousehold? - then they were completely free in the afternoons and many of them went off to play golf.

Players now are treated more like responsible adults and are expected to employ self-discipline, which in principle is a good thing - but clearly it doesn''t always work in practice.  Some players do take their fitness seriously, but others are not as "defined" as they could be either physically or mentally, and it shows.

To put this in context, there is more emphasis on athleticism in football than there used to be, and the average player today is probably fitter than ever before.  Some of our "heroes" of the not too distant past could smoke 20 a day and still perform, which might not be the case in the modern game. And once the season was over that was it for most of them until they reported back for training in July.  Now they are expected to maintain a basic level of fitness during the close season.

Individual players do need to take responsibility for their own fitness, but imo the game itself is still playing catchup when it comes to understanding all the implications of what it means for players to be athletes.  It needs to start in the Academy so that by the time they become professionals, maintaining their fitness will be second nature. 

 

[/quote]Good post. Unfortunately for us, it seems that the current group of players aren''t doing this (indicated by Roeder''s "You could be good" quote towards some of the younger players the other day)Regardless of optimum training times and lengths, I''d still have them in at 6am every day after a defeat - just to watch videos and go through set-plays and what have you, before taking it onto the training pitch in late morning. Then - if they need their hand-held to make sure they put in the extra work, do that as well.One thing''s for sure, Roeder''s going to have to change something, because we clearly aren''t up to it - either that or build a new team very, very quickly

[Steelsilver 0]

I watched them train the other day, they started at 10am. First they learnt to lose, they they learnt how to run around like headless and gutless chickens, then they learnt how to hang their heads in shame after they''d lost, lastly they learnt how to try BS the fans on how they would win the next game