Northern Canary 0 Posted September 25, 2007 At the moment the Norwich side seems to be full of very average/poor players, who do not know what they are doing and often have little or no impact on the game. However, many of these players were some of the top performers at their previous clubs:Cureton - Top scorer for ColchesterRussel - Captain of Stoke, who easily thrashed us 5-0. Scored a fair few goals for Stoke.Otsemobor - Got right back slot in League 1 team of the year, must be worth something despite leaving on a free.Strihavka - Granted he was not in the best of leagues but still the top scorer of the Czech league.Brellier - Don''t think he was one of the best at Hearts but came with a big reputation along with the whole "le juge" business.Lappin - Best player at St. Mirren according to their fans at the time of signing him, who said we could have a David Beckam type player on our hands.Martin - came from our own academy but has managed to somehow do very little since making a very promising start coming into the first team squad. A lot of these players all looked good players who performed well at their old clubs, yet for Norwich they look weak, clueless and lacking any basic skills at all. There could be a number of reasons for this; they have all come into an underperforming/simply rubbish team and so have simply lost confidence and ability, they are too comfortable at little Norwich and dont feel much pressure, or they were no good anyway etc... but these players all performed well under the coaching, management and ownership of previous clubs. This must prompt questions to be raised about those positions within our own club. It may be too early to tell as most of these players could still be settling in, but performances as bad as recent ones by the team are worthy of looking into some explaination as to why. I am not saying that this is the reason behind the teams useless perfromance, but just putting forward a reasonable suggestion for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MightyYellows50 0 Posted September 25, 2007 To be totally fair, strikers actually need other players to feed balls to them to score with, that has not been happening 100% of the time for some reason [H] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay_Boy 0 Posted September 25, 2007 you are right and most if not all of these players would claim a place in the majority of teams in this division, which means it''s down to coaching, tactics, and motivation. We don''t seem to have any of these attributes at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camuldonum 0 Posted September 25, 2007 [quote user="Northern Canary"] At the moment the Norwich side seems to be full of very average/poor players, who do not know what they are doing and often have little or no impact on the game. However, many of these players were some of the top performers at their previous clubs:Cureton - Top scorer for ColchesterRussel - Captain of Stoke, who easily thrashed us 5-0. Scored a fair few goals for Stoke.Otsemobor - Got right back slot in League 1 team of the year, must be worth something despite leaving on a free.Strihavka - Granted he was not in the best of leagues but still the top scorer of the Czech league. I have mentioned this before but at Colchester his success (my opinion) was due to him having an excellent strike partner who fed him - it was a partnership. At the moment Norwich have not yet been able to sort out a similar arrangement. If and when they do I would think he will start scoring goals again.Ball up in the air no good - chest level, feet okay. If you are to get anything from him I honestly believe you must sort that out otherwise I fear you have wasted your money. He''s not a beat five players and score man. A good killer pass should get a good response from him most games. He is simply not tall enough to cope with passes in the air - wasn''t one of his best goals for you a pass at knee height when he turned and hit it? That''s what you need to be aiming at in my opinion. Brellier - Don''t think he was one of the best at Hearts but came with a big reputation along with the whole "le juge" business.Lappin - Best player at St. Mirren according to their fans at the time of signing him, who said we could have a David Beckam type player on our hands.Martin - came from our own academy but has managed to somehow do very little since making a very promising start coming into the first team squad. A lot of these players all looked good players who performed well at their old clubs, yet for Norwich they look weak, clueless and lacking any basic skills at all. There could be a number of reasons for this; they have all come into an underperforming/simply rubbish team and so have simply lost confidence and ability, they are too comfortable at little Norwich and dont feel much pressure, or they were no good anyway etc... but these players all performed well under the coaching, management and ownership of previous clubs. This must prompt questions to be raised about those positions within our own club. It may be too early to tell as most of these players could still be settling in, but performances as bad as recent ones by the team are worthy of looking into some explaination as to why. I am not saying that this is the reason behind the teams useless perfromance, but just putting forward a reasonable suggestion for it.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camuldonum 0 Posted September 25, 2007 [quote user="camuldonum"][quote user="Northern Canary"] At the moment the Norwich side seems to be full of very average/poor players, who do not know what they are doing and often have little or no impact on the game. However, many of these players were some of the top performers at their previous clubs:Cureton - Top scorer for ColchesterRussel - Captain of Stoke, who easily thrashed us 5-0. Scored a fair few goals for Stoke.Otsemobor - Got right back slot in League 1 team of the year, must be worth something despite leaving on a free.Strihavka - Granted he was not in the best of leagues but still the top scorer of the Czech league. I have mentioned this before but at Colchester his success (my opinion) was due to him having an excellent strike partner who fed him - it was a partnership. At the moment Norwich have not yet been able to sort out a similar arrangement. If and when they do I would think he will start scoring goals again.Ball up in the air no good - chest level, feet okay. If you are to get anything from him I honestly believe you must sort that out otherwise I fear you have wasted your money. He''s not a beat five players and score man. A good killer pass should get a good response from him most games. He is simply not tall enough to cope with passes in the air - wasn''t one of his best goals for you a pass at knee height when he turned and hit it? That''s what you need to be aiming at in my opinion. Brellier - Don''t think he was one of the best at Hearts but came with a big reputation along with the whole "le juge" business.Lappin - Best player at St. Mirren according to their fans at the time of signing him, who said we could have a David Beckam type player on our hands.Martin - came from our own academy but has managed to somehow do very little since making a very promising start coming into the first team squad. A lot of these players all looked good players who performed well at their old clubs, yet for Norwich they look weak, clueless and lacking any basic skills at all. There could be a number of reasons for this; they have all come into an underperforming/simply rubbish team and so have simply lost confidence and ability, they are too comfortable at little Norwich and dont feel much pressure, or they were no good anyway etc... but these players all performed well under the coaching, management and ownership of previous clubs. This must prompt questions to be raised about those positions within our own club. It may be too early to tell as most of these players could still be settling in, but performances as bad as recent ones by the team are worthy of looking into some explaination as to why. I am not saying that this is the reason behind the teams useless perfromance, but just putting forward a reasonable suggestion for it.[/quote][/quote] PS: Before you bought Jamie someone at your club must surely have either watched him or seen videos of his games for us. In which case, I would suggest, it is patently obvious how he plays and to ignore that is courting disaster I would say. For us he was a fine player and unless he''s opted for an easy life (I doubt that because I think he actually loves scoring goals) I think you have not yet worked out how to make the best of him.He was our Player of the Year and most U''s fan were very sorry to see him go. I''m beginning to wonder whether it might be tactics that are the root cause of the problem rather than lack of talent in your squad but of course that''s just a guess on my part and doesn''t carry much weight.If you have been pumping balls in the air to him you are, in my opinion, wasting your time (and money). I stress I have not seen any Norwich game this season - the first time will be December at Layer Road (I hope). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,223 Posted September 25, 2007 Maybe it says more about the training, tactics etc employed at CR than it does about the players concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allways travelling 0 Posted September 25, 2007 [quote user="Northern Canary"] At the moment the Norwich side seems to be full of very average/poor players, who do not know what they are doing and often have little or no impact on the game. However, many of these players were some of the top performers at their previous clubs:Cureton - Top scorer for ColchesterRussel - Captain of Stoke, who easily thrashed us 5-0. Scored a fair few goals for Stoke.Otsemobor - Got right back slot in League 1 team of the year, must be worth something despite leaving on a free.Strihavka - Granted he was not in the best of leagues but still the top scorer of the Czech league.Brellier - Don''t think he was one of the best at Hearts but came with a big reputation along with the whole "le juge" business.Lappin - Best player at St. Mirren according to their fans at the time of signing him, who said we could have a David Beckam type player on our hands.Martin - came from our own academy but has managed to somehow do very little since making a very promising start coming into the first team squad. A lot of these players all looked good players who performed well at their old clubs, yet for Norwich they look weak, clueless and lacking any basic skills at all. There could be a number of reasons for this; they have all come into an underperforming/simply rubbish team and so have simply lost confidence and ability, they are too comfortable at little Norwich and dont feel much pressure, or they were no good anyway etc... but these players all performed well under the coaching, management and ownership of previous clubs. This must prompt questions to be raised about those positions within our own club. It may be too early to tell as most of these players could still be settling in, but performances as bad as recent ones by the team are worthy of looking into some explaination as to why. I am not saying that this is the reason behind the teams useless perfromance, but just putting forward a reasonable suggestion for it.[/quote]Iwill give you the reason peter grant absolutely useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,962 Posted September 25, 2007 "Before you bought Jamie someone at your club must surely have either watched him or seen videos of his games for us. "Not sure they did - wasn''t he a panic buy when Derby triggered Earnie''s buyout clause? We knew he would come to us - he never made it much of a secret that he wanted to come back, he was about to go to Hull so was available, and we needed a replacement for Earnie ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevie Wonder 0 Posted September 25, 2007 Cureton - a decent finisher but needs to be supplied with the chances. He isn''t going to create too much for himself.Russell - has done OK but has been played out of position over the last couple of games.Otsemebor - has been exactly what Crewe fans said he was i.e great going forward but not the best defensively.Strihavka - hasn''t really had a chance yet so unfair to judge him just yet.Brellier - Had fitness problems pre-season and for whatever reason a player who misses pre-season always seems to struggle. Stupid stupid sending off though.Lappin - has looked a decent player but again has been played out of position in centre mid of late.Martin - hasn''t played yet this season.It is going to take some time for so many new players to gell together - see also Leicester and Coventry (who after a good start are dipping!!). I feel the squad is better than last year but as I did say pre-season I felt we haven''t signed those "special" players that we required i.e a decent centre half and a striker with pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites