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  1. [quote user="Allez17"][quote user="Camuldonum"]

    Funny old business football.  The odd thing about The Tinpot Club v The Very Famous Club Wot Once Beat Bayern Munich yonks ago is that we actually LIKE our owner unlike the majority of posters on here some of whom, whether the Very Famous Club is promoted, will be enshrined in a forthcoming Guardian G2 piece including the messages which Archant were not quick enough to delete but which we screen grabbed before they woke up (Wiz you know what you did on Gunn''s living daughter is but one example).

    Working title is "Let''s be havin you? Actually they don''t want her at any price."

    If you go up that will have even more impact.  Good luck for the rest of the season.[:D]

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    I like how you keep name dropping G2. I''ve seen it a few times on here.

    But you''re actually going to run with a ''nasty comments are found on an interenet message board'' story?

    The shocking news that some unhinged people post unpleasant things and that responsible companies go out of their way to remove them?

    This hasn''t been done before? This isn''t the most obvious thing that the democratisation of the internet has achieved - a speakers corner for the deranged and overzealous? I''m surprised, though I shouldn''t be - news is all about cycles, after all.

    I do like your rhetoric though - find me one post on here that says we''re a big club because of a win 15 years ago and I might give you a little credit.
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    It would be a lot deeper than that.  You are obviously not a fan of the more obscure G2''s - for example you could look at the rhetoric of a football message board and speculate on how much that minority - and most football message boards are only a tiny fraction of support, in my view - believe they influence things.  I do feel that message boards, not particularly aimed at this one, do feel that they are "the voice" but I''m not sure there is much evidence that they are.  I would hope it might lead to an interesting read for people, for example, who don''t post on message boards.  In some ways it has become a sub-culture but not as massive as many posters believe.  All sorts of ways this end and completely undecided at this stage. 

  2. [quote user="Allez17"][quote user="Camuldonum"]

    Funny old business football.  The odd thing about The Tinpot Club v The Very Famous Club Wot Once Beat Bayern Munich yonks ago is that we actually LIKE our owner unlike the majority of posters on here some of whom, whether the Very Famous Club is promoted, will be enshrined in a forthcoming Guardian G2 piece including the messages which Archant were not quick enough to delete but which we screen grabbed before they woke up (Wiz you know what you did on Gunn''s living daughter is but one example).

    Working title is "Let''s be havin you? Actually they don''t want her at any price."

    If you go up that will have even more impact.  Good luck for the rest of the season.[:D]

    [/quote]

    I like how you keep name dropping G2. I''ve seen it a few times on here.

    But you''re actually going to run with a ''nasty comments are found on an interenet message board'' story?

    The shocking news that some unhinged people post unpleasant things and that responsible companies go out of their way to remove them?

    This hasn''t been done before? This isn''t the most obvious thing that the democratisation of the internet has achieved - a speakers corner for the deranged and overzealous? I''m surprised, though I shouldn''t be - news is all about cycles, after all.

    I do like your rhetoric though - find me one post on here that says we''re a big club because of a win 15 years ago and I might give you a little credit.
    [/quote]

    Speak for yourselves.  That is what I think we are reporting lest it get missed by people not on the Pink ''Un.  Not everyone is on it.  I think we should all try to broaden the audience whenever we can don''t you?[+o(]

  3. Originally scheduled for week commencing Jan 25th

    Both barristers involved in more important things than bleedin'' football.  Currently on the back burner to February or possibly beyond that.

    Source: Football League or  "We are experiencing a difficulty in arranging a date suitable to the legal representatives of the parties."

  4. Funny old business football.  The odd thing about The Tinpot Club v The Very Famous Club Wot Once Beat Bayern Munich yonks ago is that we actually LIKE our owner unlike the majority of posters on here some of whom, whether the Very Famous Club is promoted, will be enshrined in a forthcoming Guardian G2 piece including the messages which Archant were not quick enough to delete but which we screen grabbed before they woke up (Wiz you know what you did on Gunn''s living daughter is but one example).

    Working title is "Let''s be havin you? Actually they don''t want her at any price."

    If you go up that will have even more impact.  Good luck for the rest of the season.[:D]

  5. [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    Not surprising to see yet another post from The Tilster trying to pick a fight with Cam. I bet every other one of his posts is one like that. Then there''s his fixation with LQ. Just leaves enough time for a bit of hindsight at nutty and there he is in a nutshell[;)]

     

    [/quote]

    Go away Nutty nobody has mentioned Worthy on this thread..................yet!!!!!!!!

    Cam sets himself up time and again with tales from Fantasy Island and you know it Nutty.

    Explain this fixation with LQ.Dramatic words from you yet again,she appeared the other day for the first time in months and someone asks a question about her involvement and i answered as she did not and suddenly it is a fixation.Maybe you should have used your favourite word"witch hunt" instead of fixation.

     

    [/quote]

    Here is one for you Mr T.  What is the name of Mr Murdoch''s company that pays contributors?

    What is the email address of same?

    Which national newspaper is the only one left that pays by cheque rather than BAC?  Which is the only group who pays fortnightly rather than monthly or a month in arrears?

    Which people were in charge of the following News Desk''s last Saturday?  You just have to fill in the blanks.

    People: D who?

    News of the World: J Who?

    Sunday Times: N Who?

    Sunday Telegraph B Who?

    Sunday Mirror N Who?

    Mail on Sunday D Who?

    Daily Star Sunday M Who?

    Final initials will do.  If you can''t do those I''m afraid I have to write you (and Mel) off as complete and total Rodney you plonker (s)

    Over to you dear.

    [:|]

     

  6. [quote user="hogesar"][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"][quote user="CambridgeCanary"]

    [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"][quote user="Metatron"]Canary Cherub It''s obvious where the journo got his story from - he mixed up his NCFCs. The facts of the story (admin on Thursday, £8m debt) all belong to Notts County FC. As someone pointed out on page 3 or 4 of this thread it sounds like the paper made a note in the diary to say "NCFC - court hearing this week" and the journo got the wrong end of the stick. The fact that no-one CHECKED the story before publication, however, is another matter.[/quote]

    A mistake.

    Will the NOTW appologise? YES
    Will we get compo?  Not a chance
    [/quote]

    What is the basis and what are your authorities for this legal opinion?

     

    [/quote]

    My opinion obviously, based on the probability it was a mistake due to a mix up with Notts County.  And it was not done with the intent to cause distress etc etc
    [/quote]

    Intent doesn''t really matter, would just have to prove that they have been ''reckless'' rather than have direct intention. It''s unprofessional and in my opinion quite reckless. I can''t see there being a big sum involved but i must say i''m very impressed with McNally....would the Norwich ''of old'' simply have been Doomcaster mumbling on radio norfolk "They got it wrong, they said sorry, they''ve got executive seats in the jarrold for the next game, lovely man that journo"...
    [/quote]

    You obviously don''t know much about the law of libel and slander (no reason why you should).  Intent does matter.  It leads to "aggravated damages". And terribly difficult to prove. 

    You need to get out more. 

  7. [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

    [quote user="PurpleCanary"]Two points. Probably best not to get too excited at the possible damages, even if this goes to court and the club wins.

    Secondly, defamation is a very tricky branch of the law. The club''s solicitors will almost certainly have to hand this over to a specialist firm. The NotW''s lawyers will be experts in the subject; NCFC will need to hire similar.
    [/quote]

    Agreed. To your second point Purple, newspapers are, of course, represented by experts who usually will base their defense on their client acted in a manner that was based upon good faith and reasonable belief. However, if it does go to court ( not likely ), the court will want to know that the newspaper used multiple sources to corroborate their story. From a distance this would appear to be a tricky one for the newspaper in this situation.  

    [/quote]

    Yankee, these are VERY arcane issues and who knows what the newspaper''s defence might be. It might not be good faith and/or reasonable belief. They might say the story had been true at the time but NCFC acted to make it untrue. They might even be dumb (or desperate) enough to try the Reynolds Defence.

    Anyway, back to my other point, having looked at the website of the solicitors being used by NCFC to see how many defamation specialists they have the answer seems to be precisely none. Hey ho. If the NotW caves in, fine, but if this goes the course the company will have to get in experts. I can think of at least one who would probably love the case.

    As to damages (if any) they will NOT pay off the debt. If we were a listed company, and our shares dived when the LSE opened tomorrow, then we might be on for squillions. But we are unlisted; hard to prove much financial damage. How actually have we suffered?

    There is the argument of reputational damage to the directors, because the article effectively accuses them of lying,. They said officially, as directors of a PLC, that we were relatively safe, at least for this season. The article says we are going belly up very soon.

    What would be fun would be if it could be proved HAD mixed us up with Notts County, because that would pretty much destroy any defence, and might add to the damages on the basis of sheer incompetence.[/quote]

    News Corporation get about 20/30 of these letters a week.  Unlike yourselves they don''t have to go outside "in house" to defend them - that''s why they are paid the money they are.

    If you are claiming "reputational damage" my bet is that they would be quite happy to take you all the way to the High Court.

    Not sure how Norwich would "prove" a mix up with Notts County if it was not admitted.  You?

  8.  

     

    Look on the bright side of this TFA.  Good news for a legal firm in the local economy.

     

    "To various partners being disturbed on a SUNDAY morning and for sundry discussions and legal advice proffered to Messrs Bowkett and McNally ("Our Clients") the sum of....................

    "To making SPECIAL arrangements to issue a letter to News Corporation (probably fax and recorded delivery will follow but never mind the detail........") the sum of...........

    "To consulting various AUTHORITIES on the law of Defamation" the sum of........

    "To various disbursements" the sum of..... (i.e. you have just paid for half the cost of the purchase of the fax machine as have 172 clients before you).

    Plus VAT.

    Terms: Settlement within 30 days nett of the date of this invoice.  Late settlement will incur a charge of 5 per cent over Bank of England base rate in force at the expiry of 30 days. (see terms and conditions).

     

    [;)]

  9. [quote user="canary cherub "]

    Camul . . . you''ve been conspicuous by your absence on this site recently. 

    If you haven''t already, go and do a bit of digging and find out where this story came from.

    Otherwise we''ll assume it''s you . . . after all, R Cowling has to be a prime suspect (allegedly) [;)]

     

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    I''m conspicuous by my absence, dear chap, ditto the Colchester board, because I am backgrounding a news documentary for Sky which is taking up rather a lot of time.

    As to the Screws story know nothing about it - we were up to our eyes in female suicide bombers (Express, Sun Tel) and child rapists let off with a caution (Mail on Sunday) and that was only Friday.  We couldn''t fit Norwich in I''m afraid.

    I don''t know the reporter - I think he''s a sports casual on Friday and Saturday.  He may not have originated the story, merely asked to write it up.  He''s not a news reporter that I can say.  Someone will have filed a story to them I assume or maybe the saw the recent EDP stuff and put it away for a rainy day. 

    I really don''t see you getting much money out of it.  If they admit they got it wrong they''ll offer something and pay your costs.  It could go on for weeks while the two sides negotiate a sum.  It''s a good story locally but, sadly, no one else will be interested unless Delia pops up and claims it lost her a TV show contract.

    If you are going to claim that it has "damaged" the club they might well say: "Right, let''s go to to the High Court then" and risk it.  Those sort of things are normally 50-50 as to which way it goes unless you can easily prove damage and right at the moment that doesn''t look like the case at Norwich.

    I would think you will make a bit of money out of it but I really can''t see it being very much.  At worst it''s a wrong story - not many dead.

     

  10. Apologies for late pic - very busy this end.  Manchester United to see off Hull City - HOME WIN.
  11. Camuldonum

    Why Have City Fans Become So Arrogant?

    [quote user="Camuldonum"]

    A point that has been missed I believe is that when I first started watching a Tin Pot Club (Colchester) v Another Tin Pot Club (Norwich City) in the Third Division (South) there was absolutely no segregation between home and away fans.  How could this possibly have been allowed in 1953 and why weren''t lots of people injured?

    Go on.  Tell me.

    [/quote]

    PS: Spotty teenagers with Xbox, Football Manager and the FIFA thing can wade in if they want.[:|]

  12. Camuldonum

    Why Have City Fans Become So Arrogant?

    A point that has been missed I believe is that when I first started watching a Tin Pot Club (Colchester) v Another Tin Pot Club (Norwich City) in the Third Division (South) there was absolutely no segregation between home and away fans.  How could this possibly have been allowed in 1953 and why weren''t lots of people injured?

    Go on.  Tell me.

  13. [quote user="Buckfast"]Are you proud that you knocked on someones door every half hour for 2 days? I would have opened the door and knocked your teeth out and told you to Fook Off![/quote]

    It was split between two of us! Yes I am proud of it.  We got the story which is what we are paid to do.  What is it you are paid to do?  And you have would been caught by the cameraman doing just that and, as a Mayor, it wouldn''t have looked too good would it?  Either way it would be over.  People do what they do and if we find out about it we report what they do. 

    Presumably you would rather that the staff at Dunston Hall had not alerted Norfolk police to the fact that Matty Patty had padded past reception in his pants while ****** out of his mind to report to a Sunday training session at Colney?

    Should the staff at Dunston Hall  have shrugged their shoulders?  What say you? 

    Anyway what is it you are paid to do?

  14. [quote user="Mike Grant"]If we can just get Camuldung (or whatever the jorno of the year calls himself) to say he''ll never post on a Norwich City Site, never in a million years, my day will be complete :o)[/quote]

     

    If it would make you happy for us to go that''s our best reason for not going.  We have made a few people happy (not many over the years, tis true) but the more you want us to go is the best reason to stay.  As a jorno (sic) of course.

    We once hammered on the door of a menage a trois group in Lyndhurst, Hampshire, every half hour for two days until eventually the bloke involved said: "Oh FFS come in then."  The Mayor, the leader of the Conservative group and the Clerk to the Council.  Halcyon days.

    [:P]

     

    Hope that helps and, if it doesn''t, hard ******* luck.

    [:P][:|]

     

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