Rate our squad

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

This thread was on another message board but quite interesting.

Ok, new manager is obviously going to take a look at whats he''s got & rate them, so lets all have a go
Rate out 10 & then (if you want) add a footnote to justify the score
5 = average player, 0 = utterly inept, 10 = good
(players classified under sky sports player headings not my own & loan players included)

Goalkeepers
Paul Gallacher
Lee Camp
Joe Lewis

Defenders
Rossi Jarvis
Andrew Cave-Brown
Patrick Boyle
Matthew Halliday
Mathieu Louis-Jean
Adam Drury
Jason Shackell
Craig Fleming
Jurgen Colin
Gary Doherty

Midfielders
Carl Robinson
Andy Hughes
Dickson Etuhu
Michael Spillane
Robert Eagle
Andrew Fisk
Youssef Safri
Lee Croft

Strikers
Dion Dublin
Robert Earnshaw
Peter Thorne
Darren Huckerby
Paul McVeigh
Ian Henderson
Ryan Jarvis

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Goalkeepers

Paul Gallacher 5 not good enough

Lee Camp don''t know

Joe Lewis don''t know

Defenders

Rossi Jarvis too early to rate

Andrew Cave-Brown to early to rate

Patrick Boyle 4 send back very poor

Matthew Halliday to early to rate

Mathieu Louis-Jean 6/7 from what I’ve seen

Adam Drury 7 not having a good season

Jason Shackell 4 not consistent to many mistakes

Craig Fleming 5 would have been a 9 years ago but to old and slow now

Jurgen Colin 7

Gary Doherty 7

Midfielders

Carl Robinson 0 total rubbish, talent less

Andy Hughes 2 rubbish

Dickson Etuhu 6 consistency is not there yet

Michael Spillane to early to rate

Robert Eagle 6 hot prospect

Andrew Fisk to early to rate

Youssef Safri 8 not having a great season but most cultured central midfielder at the club

Lee Croft 7 flatters to deceive much of the time. Quality of his crosses need to improve

Strikers

Dion Dublin 5 see nothing to suggest he is worth more but hey he is ok

Robert Earnshaw 9 quality striker will be almost impossible to hang on to in January unless we can get something going.

Peter Thorne 1 utter fodder

Darren Huckerby 10 still the class act a our club. Passion and skill what more do you need. Top man

Paul McVeigh 7 consistency needed but there is no doubting he has quality

Ian Henderson 4 should be released to further his career at a lower level

Ryan Jarvis 4 same as Henderson.

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Paul Gallacher   6 decent but need better

Lee Camp    aint really seen him much

Joe Lewis   6 looks talented         

Rossi Jarvis  unsure

Andrew Cave-Brown   unsure

 Patrick Boyle  4 looks quite bad but still young

Matthew Halliday  unsure

Mathieu Louis-Jean    3 keeps getting injured

Adam Drury    7 good and solid left back 

Jason Shackell    5.5 a bit inconsistent average

Craig Fleming     4 atm but in his good days 7

Jurgen Colin     5.5 looks ok 

Gary Doherty    6 inconsistent like shacks but good at winning headers

Carl Robinson   4.5 average does well for wales but not us its annoying!

 Andy Hughes    3 pretty shite

 Dickson Etuhu  6.5 good player but needs to produce form alot more

Michael Spillane  6 should be in our 1st team

Robert Eagle       5.5 should be on the bench better than hughes

Andrew Fisk   unsure

Youssef Safri   7.5 good player but needs to get booked less our 4th best player

 Lee Croft   8 quick and good crosser of the ball our 3rd best player after hucks and earnie 

Dion Dublin    5 now but in his day 9

Robert Earnshaw  9 our joint best player a match winner worth around 5-6 million in my opinion

 Peter Thorne    2 now but in his day 6

Darren Huckerby    9 our joint best player we would struggle if we lost him more than if we lost earnie

 Paul McVeigh      7 sometimes when he plays like last season 

Ian Henderson  2.5 should go

 Ryan Jarvis    6 should start he is the best player to come out of our youth system since green

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I have used to following to decide on my ratings:

unrated: Not seen them play enough to give a judgement.

0 - 2: Not good enough for the Championship.

3 - 4: Lower Championship player.

5 - 6: Average Championship player - good enough to keep a team around the mid-table mark.

7 - 8: Good Championship player - good enough to have a team challenging for promotion.

9 - 10: Player that is good enough to keep a team in the Premiership.

Gallacher (6), Camp (unrated), Lewis (unrated)

Rossi Jarvis (unrated), Andrew Cave-Brown (unrated), Patrick Boyle (6), Matthew Halliday (unrated), Mathieu Louis-Jean (unrated), Adam Drury (7), Jason Shackell (7), Craig Fleming (4), Jurgen Colin (4), Gary Doherty (6)

Carl Robinson (5), Andy Hughes (4), Dickson Etuhu (6), Michael Spillane (unrated), Robert Eagle (unrated), Andrew Fisk (unrated), Yousef Safri (7), Lee Croft (8)

Dion Dublin (4), Robert Earnshaw (9), Peter Thorne (2), Darren Huckerby (9), Paul McVeigh (6), Ian Henderson (2), Ryan Jarvis (5)

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Goalkeepers

Paul Gallacher - 6

Lee Camp - ?

Joe Lewis - ?

Defenders

Rossi Jarvis - 6

Andrew Cave-Brown - 6

Patrick Boyle - 5

Matthew Halliday - 6

Mathieu Louis-Jean -6

Adam Drury - 7

Jason Shackell - 5.5

Craig Fleming - 4

Jurgen Colin - 7

Gary Doherty - 6

Midfielders

Carl Robinson - 4

Andy Hughes - 4.5

Dickson Etuhu - 6.5

Michael Spillane - 6.5

Robert Eagle - 6.5

Andrew Fisk - ?

Youssef Safri - 7

Lee Croft - 7

Strikers

Dion Dublin - 5.5

Robert Earnshaw - 9

Peter Thorne - 2

Darren Huckerby - 9

Paul McVeigh - 5

Ian Henderson - 4

Ryan Jarvis- 6.5

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Goalkeepers Paul Gallacher 7Lee Camp ?Joe Lewis  ?Defenders Rossi Jarvis 6Andrew Cave-Brown 7Patrick Boyle 6Matthew Halliday 6Mathieu Louis-Jean 6Adam Drury 8Jason Shackell 7Craig Fleming 5Jurgen Colin 7Gary Doherty 6Midfielders Carl Robinson 7Andy Hughes 4Dickson Etuhu 6Michael Spillane 6Robert Eagle 7Andrew Fisk 7Youssef Safri 8Lee Croft 8Strikers Dion Dublin 5Robert Earnshaw 9Peter Thorne 4Darren Huckerby 9Paul McVeigh 6Ian Henderson 4Ryan Jarvis 5

[Ankles50 0]

There was a reason i posted this question on the other message board originally, once enough of you have replied i''ll cut & past the follow on unless you come & read/post there first

[gaggers 0]

A good rating system proposed there Bachhus by another name.

 

Gallacher (6), Camp (unrated), Lewis (unrated)

Rossi Jarvis (unrated), Andrew Cave-Brown (unrated), Patrick Boyle (4), Matthew Halliday (unrated), Mathieu Louis-Jean (unrated), Adam Drury (7), Jason Shackell (7), Craig Fleming (4), Jurgen Colin (4), Gary Doherty (5)

Carl Robinson (5), Andy Hughes (4), Dickson Etuhu (6), Michael Spillane (unrated), Robert Eagle (unrated), Andrew Fisk (unrated), Yousef Safri (7), Lee Croft (8)

Dion Dublin (5), Robert Earnshaw (8), Peter Thorne (2), Darren Huckerby (8), Paul McVeigh (6), Ian Henderson (4), Ryan Jarvis (5)

I think Huckerby is a good player but I think he is a bit overrated, i think he actually falls in to a bit of a no-mans land between the premiership and the championship.

[Huddy 0]

I am just going to give a quick assesement of our squad in each department.

Goalkeepers

We for the first time in years, dont appear to have a top quality goalkeeper. Gallagher has not won me over, yesterdays last goal in particualar showed that his positiong is not up too scratch. He usually is a decent shot stopper, but is catching from crosses and his geerall command is poor. Camp should be given a go. Lewis will be good but obviously isnt redy.

Defenders

We have a massive problem in defence. Drury is a key player and is vital to our success at home, while boyle is totally inept (4/10). At centre half we dont have one commanding player. Shackell would be my first pick because he is young and needs a run of games, (7/10), Doherty in my opinion has been poor this season and has been at fault for a number of goals, and was overated last season. We are in desperate need of a new, commanding centre half as Fleming is unfortunately too slow and past it. At right back Jurgen Colin is improving but still is not a top quality championship defender and has a worrying mentality of not crossing the half way line, while matheui Louis jean cannot stand out against stevenage reserves and really should be sold from what ive seen of him. We have decent youngsters who would surely do a better job than fleming, louis jean etc in the squad. Rossi Jlooks assured and should be given more off a chance and Andrew cave-brown when fit is also perfectly capable.

Centre Midfield

In my opinion we only have 1 centre midfielder too build a team around and that is Etuhu. He has been a bit inconsistent of late but is usually at the heart of what are midfeild does. I have lost patience with Youseff Safri, i can remmeber him having 2 good games since last Xmas, hardly consistent is it!. While robinson i believe would be handy if we play a 3 man field alongside Etuhu and someone new. Hughes can be good at times, but is far too inconsistent to be considered a valuable squad member of a championsip side. We desperately need 1 or 2 in and 1 or 2 out in our midfeild. At the moment for example i would much rather see Spillane in the team than Safri or hughes. He has always impressed when used before and is the sort of player who could be pivotal for us in years to come.

Wingers

It is clear to every norwich fan that when we paly 4-3-3, our best choice line up is on paper one of the best attacking line ups in the division. Darren Huckerby is still just about as good as ever and must be offered a new contract, while Croft is still young and appears avery good bit of business by Mr worthington. Its in reserve we have a problem if one of these get injured. I have always said Henderson is a decent player, and the widde right position in the 4-3-3 would probably suit him down to the ground, when fit this is where he perhaps should be deployed if croft is unan#vaialble. Paul Mcveigh is a waste of space and clearly has an attitude proble, and Rob eagle should be used if hucks is out. We could however do with another option in this area.

Strikers

We have Rob Earnshaw as our number 1 and is performances on the whole this season have been very good, but we do need someone else to come in or step up. The 4-4-2 formation will have to be deployed at times and we will need to goalscoring forwards. The arrival of Freddy Eastwood or Billy sharp would please me no end. Ryan Jarvis if there is a space needs a run in the team to see whether he is up to it, reserve games or 5 minute cameos arent enough. I had my doubts but Dion Dublin could be handy Sub, but sub only. He isnt up to 90 minutes, only 30 and so cannot be reiled on and neither can Peter thorne who is proven to be useless.

In Conclusion

We have the basis of a good team which would be enhanced by 2/3 new signings and the influence of a couple of  younger places. Peter Grant needs to build a team around Drury,shackell , Croft, Etuhu, Huckerby and Earnshaw

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Paul Gallacher 7

Defenders
Mathieu Louis-Jean    Who?
Adam Drury 7
Jason Shackell 7 
Craig Fleming 6
Jurgen Colin 5
Gary Doherty 6

Midfielders
Carl Robinson 5
Andy Hughes 5
Dickson Etuhu 6
Youssef Safri 7
Lee Croft 7

Strikers
Dion Dublin 6
Robert Earnshaw 8 
Peter Thorne 4
Darren Huckerby 9 
Paul McVeigh 6
Ian Henderson 4
Ryan Jarvis 5

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Goalkeepers
Paul Gallacher 6
Lee Camp unknown
Joe Lewis  4 at present could improve

Defenders
Rossi Jarvis 5   
Andrew Cave-Brown 6
Patrick Boyle return to sender thanks but no thanks
Matthew Halliday 4
Mathieu Louis-Jean 6
Adam Drury 8
Jason Shackell 7
Craig Fleming 6
Jurgen Colin 7
Gary Doherty 7

Midfielders
Carl Robinson 6
Andy Hughes 6 get off his back
Dickson Etuhu 8 or 4 depending which one turns up
Michael Spillane 5 potentially 8
Robert Eagle 5   
Andrew Fisk 5
Youssef Safri the controversial one 3 attitude stinks get rid. Could be 8 if he cared
Lee Croft 7 lose weight

Strikers
Dion Dublin 6 7 if he gets fit
Robert Earnshaw 9
Peter Thorne 3
Darren Huckerby 9

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Goalkeepers-5

Defenders-5

Midfield-5.5

Strikers-8

[1st Wizard 0]

Goalkeepers
Paul Gallacher - 7 on his day but needs to improve his consistency and also is in bad form at the moment
Lee Camp - not sure but should get a chance with gallaghers bad form at the moment
Joe Lewis  - not sure

Defenders
Rossi Jarvis - 5
Andrew Cave-Brown - not sure
Patrick Boyle - 6 will get better with more games
Matthew Halliday - not sure
Mathieu Louis-Jean - 6 but needs to be seen
Adam Drury - 7 good championship performer but no better than that
Jason Shackell - 8 when he plays well again
Craig Fleming - 6 solid 
Jurgen Colin - 7 lacking for at the moment but comfortable in a good championship team
Gary Doherty - 8 wins everything in the air, desicion making could be better

Midfielders
Carl Robinson - 7 does the simple things very well and without him in the team our early success woulld not have happened
Andy Hughes - 6 not as bad as everyone says
Dickson Etuhu - 7/8 great going forward and winning the ball but passing needs to be slightly better
Michael Spillane - not sure
Robert Eagle - 5 will be a 7 in a year or two
Andrew Fisk - not sure
Youssef Safri - 8 when he can be bothered but does not compliment either of our other 2 central midifleders
Lee Croft - 9 stand out player in our team and would get in any championship team

Strikers
Dion Dublin -6/7 will get about 8 golas or so this season
Robert Earnshaw - 9 best striker in the division on current form and will be top scorer this season for division around 25 goal mark
Peter Thorne - 5 needs to drop down a division
Darren Huckerby - 8 still vital memeber of our team but can''t play in a 4-4-2
Paul McVeigh - 7 creative but out of form
Ian Henderson - 5 tries hard but no end product
Ryan Jarvis- 6 needs more of a chance