A Load of Squit 5,201 Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, essex canary said: Not so long ago our shareholder initiative was apparently a world leader. Now the shareholders are the 20% whingers. Not all fans are shareholders so the above post isn't accurate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,965 Posted March 13 22 hours ago, norwich canary said: I have to strongly object to this reply . There is only room on this board for one thick fan and that is me I am Spartacus! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,105 Posted March 13 On 10/03/2024 at 10:07, essex canary said: That many of us believe there is something about local identity in following a Football Club and don't always want to fully embrace Globalisation. Is there any irony in someone called ESSEX canary talking about following your local football club? Go and support Colchester United you spanner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,965 Posted March 13 17 hours ago, essex canary said: If we had a stadium of Barcelona's capacity and their organisation (as per the attached) it could be a good idea. Barcelona is currently in debt to the tune of £1.2bn and is still actively promoting a European Super League to get them out of it. Perhaps try another role model? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 504 Posted March 13 11 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Barcelona is currently in debt to the tune of £1.2bn and is still actively promoting a European Super League to get them out of it. Perhaps try another role model? Isn't that our model also in relative terms? £96 million in debt, pretending we are top 17 and chasing fans around the world. That is why we need to get our feet on the ground as per this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,965 Posted March 13 I've been using this forum for over 10 years now. This is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,169 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: I've been using this forum for over 10 years now. This is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. Well he's just started another one approvingly quoting Lenin so he's on a roll right now............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,169 Posted March 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, essex canary said: Not so long ago our shareholder initiative was apparently a world leader. Now the shareholders are the 20% whingers. Well it's definitely true in your case. 🤣😅 Edited March 13 by Thirsty Lizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,336 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: I've been using this forum for over 10 years now. This is probably the most idiotic thread I've ever seen. sorted! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, essex canary said: Isn't that our model also in relative terms? £96 million in debt, pretending we are top 17 and chasing fans around the world. That is why we need to get our feet on the ground as per this thread. "Putting it politely" you really can't criticise anyone for having a lesser understanding than you when you demonstrate such a lack in understanding of what is in front of you, let alone in the wider community and world. Football is an international market. Been that way since the TV deals first struck with the arrival of the premier league at least. There are some incredible examples of how clubs continued wealth, fortune and success has been built on the back of it... Barcelona is just one example. The billion plus of debt they're in has them in hot water. Is it relative? Well they can't wipe it out with one promotion, so no... it probably isn't. Nor is the vast majority of it to have been paid off in a few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,336 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, chicken said: "Putting it politely" you really can't criticise anyone for having a lesser understanding than you when you demonstrate such a lack in understanding of what is in front of you, let alone in the wider community and world. Football is an international market. Been that way since the TV deals first struck with the arrival of the premier league at least. There are some incredible examples of how clubs continued wealth, fortune and success has been built on the back of it... Barcelona is just one example. The billion plus of debt they're in has them in hot water. Is it relative? Well they can't wipe it out with one promotion, so no... it probably isn't. Nor is the vast majority of it to have been paid off in a few months. No point engaging with Gollum , he's obsessed. The way he ignores truth and promotes 'his truth' makes me think he's a little unhinged. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted March 13 12 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: No point engaging with Gollum , he's obsessed. The way he ignores truth and promotes 'his truth' makes me think he's a little unhinged. As usual sir, you are too kind. "Little" is very polite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 504 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, wcorkcanary said: No point engaging with Gollum , he's obsessed. The way he ignores truth and promotes 'his truth' makes me think he's a little unhinged. The truth is that as a multiple of Turnover, Barcelona's debt is not that much higher than ours and clearly if Annual Turnover is less than the brought forward debt at the year start, the latter will not be paid off in that year for either us or them. The so called wealth and success of Football Clubs is built on a foundation of sand being resources they haven't generated or hold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,336 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, wcorkcanary said: No point engaging with Gollum , he's obsessed. The way he ignores truth and promotes 'his truth' makes me think he's a little unhinged. 9 minutes ago, essex canary said: The truth is that as a multiple of Turnover, Barcelona's debt is not that much higher than ours and clearly if Annual Turnover is less than the brought forward debt at the year start, the latter will not be paid off in that year for either us or them. The so called wealth and success of Football Clubs is built on a foundation of sand being resources they haven't generated or hold. See, the mans a fackin loony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,336 Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, essex canary said: The truth is that as a multiple of Turnover, Barcelona's debt is not that much higher than ours and clearly if Annual Turnover is less than the brought forward debt at the year start, the latter will not be paid off in that year for either us or them. The so called wealth and success of Football Clubs is built on a foundation of sand being resources they haven't generated or hold. Dont bother ,weird moneycont. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,201 Posted March 13 51 minutes ago, essex canary said: The truth is that as a multiple of Turnover, Barcelona's debt is not that much higher than ours and clearly if Annual Turnover is less than the brought forward debt at the year start, the latter will not be paid off in that year for either us or them. The so called wealth and success of Football Clubs is built on a foundation of sand being resources they haven't generated or hold. It's amazing how alike the 2 clubs are, if we'd managed to spend more time in La Liga then we'd be exactly like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
