OldRobert 38 Posted July 16, 2016 http://news.sky.com/story/live-turkish-army-says-taken-power-over-country-10503062 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Stump 1 Posted July 16, 2016 ''Kim Kardashians @rse has got bigger" would have attracted more views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted July 16, 2016 I originally thought that it was a thread about one of the Bernard Matthews birds that''s being fattened up for Christmas OR, until I heard the news.UK out! Turkey in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted July 16, 2016 and yes.News about Kim Kardashian''s @rse exploding would probably excite more interest on this testosterone enhanced forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 16, 2016 Currently on holiday in Cyprus.Had some great holidays in Turkey, but when the travel agent has suggested it for the last two years, I have declined, for this reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 497 Posted July 16, 2016 Coup appears to have failed. The losers are really going to suffer for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,952 Posted July 16, 2016 BroadstairsR wrote: UK out! Turkey in?Let''s not perpetuate myths. Turkey will not join the EU for decades and decades, if ever. Before Brexit, several other countries had expressed they would block Turkey''s accession to the EU (as they could easily do, the accession would have to be unanimously agreed). Turkey has several articles in it''s constitution which don''t jive with the EU''s regulations (eg, there is a law which makes it illegal to criticise Ataturk which clearly contravenes freedom of speech etc). As someone who has lived in Turkey, it''s unimaginable they would ever take that out the constitution. This is a nation which blocked youtube for 5 years because a video appeared on there which was not favourable to Erdogan.Turkey joining the EU ain''t going to happen, that was fearmongering from the Leave side, Brexit is done now, so let''s stop pretending it might. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,952 Posted July 16, 2016 Should say they blocked youtube for 5 years for a video that was not favourable to Ataturk. Erdogan was the one blocking it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted July 16, 2016 It was perpetuating nothing KiO save little, un-funny, tongue-in-cheek remarks that contain no intended substance or viewpoint.Perhaps this thread should merge with the EU one which, apparently, is still alive and kicking otherwise we are in danger of diluting this forum with polly-ticks (or turkey-ticks in this case) etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,952 Posted July 16, 2016 Fair enough mate, whatever the realities of the situ with Turkey/EU, it''s sad to see a nation I love firing on their own people.Looks like it''s well and truly been crushed now, but the fallout from this will not be pretty. Hell hath no fury like an Erdogan scorned! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 Didn''t take Boris long to kick that one off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted July 16, 2016 "The wankara from Ankara" has survived then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 There was a young fellow from AnkaraWho was a terrific wankererTill he sowed his wild oatsWith the help of a goatBut he didn’t even stop to thankera.👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 Remarked our new Foreign Sectretary when asked to reassure British citizens in Turkey ATM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 16, 2016 [quote user="kick it off"]Looks like it''s well and truly been crushed now[/quote]A sad day for modernity and civilisation [:(] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93vintage 16 Posted July 16, 2016 [quote user="Jools"][quote user="kick it off"]Looks like it''s well and truly been crushed now[/quote]A sad day for modernity and civilisation [:(][/quote]Maybe that depends on who was behind the coup attempt, and the reasons for launching it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 93vintage wrote the following post at 16/07/2016 3:50 PM: Jools wrote: kick it off wrote:Looks like it''s well and truly been crushed nowA sad day for modernity and civilisation Sad [:(]Maybe that depends on who was behind the coup attempt, and the reasons for launching it.The coup was an attempt to move Turkey''s direction of travel back towards a more secular state, its failure will now see it slide into a pseudo democratic religious dictatorship.A sad sad day for the young people of Turkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93vintage 16 Posted July 16, 2016 [quote user="Ali K"]93vintage wrote the following post at 16/07/2016 3:50 PM: Jools wrote: kick it off wrote:Looks like it''s well and truly been crushed nowA sad day for modernity and civilisation Sad [:(]Maybe that depends on who was behind the coup attempt, and the reasons for launching it.The coup was an attempt to move Turkey''s direction of travel back towards a more secular state, its failure will now see it slide into a pseudo democratic religious dictatorship.A sad sad day for the young people of Turkey.[/quote]That might be what the Turks are being told, but whoever is behind the coup is perhaps bound to say that. Often there are underlying motivations and politics involved.There''s been quite a bit of talk about the Islamic scholar Fethullah Gulen and his shadowy religious movement being behind the coup, perhaps backed by the US (where Gulen is exiled). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 All the opposition parties have opposed the attempted coup.Whenever anything goes wrong in Turkey Erdogan always blames Gulen and his so called "parallel state"The parallel state is a fictitious "terrorist group" created in the mind of Erdogan, he uses it to remove top judges, police officers, local politicians, large numbers of journalists and even a major opposition newspaper, anyone in fact that opposes him is classed as a Gulanist and removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted July 16, 2016 [quote user="Ali K"]All the opposition parties have opposed the attempted coup.Whenever anything goes wrong in Turkey Erdogan always blames Gulen and his so called "parallel state"The parallel state is a fictitious "terrorist group" created in the mind of Erdogan, he uses it to remove top judges, police officers, local politicians, large numbers of journalists and even a major opposition newspaper, anyone in fact that opposes him is classed as a Gulanist and removed.[/quote]Yep, and Erdogan''s anti-democratic grip on the country just got stronger [:(] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2016 Indeed Julian.The only conspiracy theory that I might subscribe to is that fringe groups sympathetic to and controlled by Erdogan helped manufacture this coup in order to strengthen his presidential ambitions.Somehow last night all seemed a little bit too convenient and choreographed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites