JuanVelasco

[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]Well done Common Sense. Going back to Doncaster''s analysis in the paper a few months back, £805k was listed as being spent on accommodation, travel, medical etc. We are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club.[/quote]Too right Tangy, must be a Butlins nearby. If not the YHA is only £9 a night. Let''s get real, fed up with being a laughing stock! [/quote] Oh yeah good one, lets put them all in youth hostels full of screaming drunk 18 year old Kiwi''s and Aussies, 4 per room. Then lets see us beat St Johnstone having players that have not slept at all, and then discover that the manky shared air conditioning of those little dives has given our entire squad swine flu. You are lucky to get a Travel Lodge room for £50 a night these days, so seriously get with it!  Me and my missus paid more than that per night in Las Vegas, and I was an office administrator. £100 a night is pretty normal for a half decent hotel. We arent going to sign Preston wingers and Palace forwards by promising them £9 a night slums.

[quote user="TheCardinal"] [quote user="ACE"]Well why not, lets just field attacking midfielders and forwards!  [/quote] To be honest, it''s those positions we need reinforcements in most badly. Our defence is one left back short of being okay, IMO - whereas we need right wingers and strikers as a matter of urgency. [/quote] Our defence is one right back and one left back from being ok, subject to the goalkeeper and new centre back being any good? Or are you a mystic?

Do we really need two people copy and pasting twitter Duffman? If people really need a 30 second faster version of Pete, then let them sign up to Twitter, where they will get a 30 second faster version of Duffman.

Please note that I am fully aware of the age of this post, but first time I have read. I disagree completely with regards to Doherty, Shackell, Lupoli, Hoolohan and Grounds. All of whom are quality players. I believe that Drury is no better than many of the players you slated, and is just as much of a sicknote as Kennedy. Carl Cort was most certainly not the best striker on that list, he too was awful and a sick note. Leroy Lita may be too good for us, but he is also a class a tw*t, who has rejected £26k a week to play for Sheffield United..... and has now priced himself out of a move to..... well..... anywhere!

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mustachio Furioso"][quote user="rjwc22"][quote user="Mustachio Furioso"][quote user="rjwc22"] I love that feeling where you think you have original knowledge and post only to find there are about 109 threads on it dating back weeks! I have almost given up posting new items, as the disappointment is too much for me! As such, will not be telling you all about the former international striker we are courting.....  (Les Ferdinand!!!) [/quote] All you have to do is scan down the first page of the forum.... [/quote] He seems to get out of the wrong side most mornings!   Not if as I suggested the posts are older than that.  Stunning insight though, thanks for that.  Never thought to look at the posts before posting myself, really brilliant. [/quote] There''s plenty of idiots who never have the decency to search for duplicate subjects, don''t worry you are in good company. [/quote]   Looks like someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning[:D] [/quote]

Somebody from this board has gone up, can''t remember who. But if he hasn''t got an internet phone, then we can''t expect him to post on here..... have to wait until he is back.

[quote user="Jen_Jen"]He''s Gone To Brighton![/quote] What''s your point? That had already been established before I posted this thread.... that''s the whole basis upon which the OP was constructed.

[quote user="Old Shuck"]I wonder how, with the probable much larger budget afforded to him last Summer, the sort of players Roeder might have been able to get in if he had taken the approach Gunn and co have had to,this time around-and not spend it all on expensive loans, such as the "beautiful mover" from Portsmouth and Troy Double-Barrelled? Interestingly, no-one has signed Lita yet, who is a free agent. I know he''s out of our league now, but wonder why no-one seems keen to get him?[/quote] Apparently he was offered £26,000 from Sheffield United, before he proceeded to ask for more. Kevin Blackwell laughed him off, and told the press. No club will offer him a deal now because of that. It is also rumoured that Lita''s agent went back to Sheffield United and offered to play for £20,000 a week....... but Kevin Blackwell is not somebody to take the p*ss out of. Lita is clearly an idiot.

[quote user="Legend Iwan"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] [quote user="Superflash"]Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division. I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI. [/quote] Apparently Nielson looked out of his depth in the first half against Dartford! Personally I think Gunn needs to ask himself "Is Neilson better than Luke Daley?". If the answer is yes, then we need to be getting shot of Daley, if the answer is no...... then we shouldn''t be looking at Nielson. I rate Daley very highly personally. [/quote] I believe it is between McVeigh and Nielson for a contract, not Daley. [/quote] Thats not what I was trying to say, I am saying what is the point in signing Nielson if we are going to sign Whaley. All that is going to do is push Luke Daley back into oblivion. We don''t need three right wingers. McVeigh has played on the left side of midfield for us in the friendlies, so McVeigh is irrelevant to this equation. I would personally take McVeigh as our second left winger, in order to prevent Pattison from having to go anywhere near the left wing at any stage of the season. If I did have to choose between Nielson or McVeigh though, I would choose McVeigh. He is a former international with an abundane of skill, a shouter in the dressing room, and respected by the kids (including Spillane and Martin). We have enough decent kids at the club already, if they were good enough to be given a pro deal in the first place, then they should be good enough as back up to the senior players.  

[quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]On his way to Brighton for a fee of around £100K if the Beeb is to be believed. Not sure why we did not want to take a punt on a youngish player who is keen to get his career back on track.....[/quote] The fee is not to be believed, according to Cam the fee is in fact 350k, rising to 500k. There has been loads of threads on this mate, hence why I started this one. There is no way that Brighton are getting him for 100k.

[quote user="spm2866"] Last Year NCFC - Loan Players This Year NCFC - Trialists & Free Transfers Dropping down to League 1 because of the amount of money we spent on loan players, now we are left with just the players not needed from lower league clubs (except Bridges because he was at Hull). OTBC since 1969  [/quote] You mean players not needed from the premiership? Three of our trialists have been released by Tottenham Hotspur, another released by Hull City. Another has been released by Celta Viga. Nielson is non league, but hardly not needed by Cambridge City! We can''t play trialists. Giving players a trial is something that EVERY manager does, at EVERY club. Glen Roeder had about 20, but they club simply closed off Colney to the media instead of being open and honest to the fans. We only found out about 4 all season. Gunn just cannot win. People say that they want a club that is open and honest with the fans, tells them whats going on, how it is...... and now he gets slated for it? Last pre season I started a thread about 4 trialists we had at Colney (when it was closed off for pre season), stating that they were foreign players and their positions. Unfortunately my source was sacked by the club for other rumours which I did not pass on. The day after the thread there was an article in the Pink Un admitting that we had a Right back and centre back on trial. One dutch and one swiss or something similar. I was shocked and suprised that many people thought that this was odd. This sums up how ''closed doors'' this club has been for years, and how different the club is being run now.  By the way, Hasselbaink WAS on trial at the club. A year ago the club would have had this many, or even more trialists, but just wouldn''t have been so open and would have played at least two pre season friendlys behind closed doors and with no public knowledge. I could not be more grateful for the way that Gunn has been with the fans with regards to out of contract players. Contracted players is a different matter, as we don''t want him to jeopardise negotiations.

[quote user="Superflash"]Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division. I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI. [/quote] Apparently Nielson looked out of his depth in the first half against Dartford! Personally I think Gunn needs to ask himself "Is Neilson better than Luke Daley?". If the answer is yes, then we need to be getting shot of Daley, if the answer is no...... then we shouldn''t be looking at Nielson. I rate Daley very highly personally.

[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] [quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote] All I can comment on is the 3 or 4 times that I have seen him play over the last few years. Each time he has looked direct, pacey and intelligient. At the moment we don''t have any direct, pacey and intelligient wingers. To keep things simple, I see the addition of such a player to add to what we have currently got. I also seem to remember him being a much better crosser of the ball than Lee Croft. So you asked why people are pleased with this signing (although what you meant to say is why WOULD people be pleased with this singing - as of course it has not yet happened. And I feel that I have answered this question accordingly, considering I can only speak for myself. [/quote]   To be fair though Juan he has probably been playing against us? We are quite good at making opposition players look direct pacy and intelligent! I have to say I am surprised at the reaction of the Preston fans as he has always seemed to be in and around their team over the last 3 or 4 seasons and has not looked too bad when we''ve played them It seems he was excellent when he first joined them and rated alongside nugent as a real star of the future. Lets just hope a cahnge of scenery is what he needs to recapture that sort of form. Plus if he has a bit of pace then its a bit more than we have now - which is basically none! [/quote] A couple of times against us, but also remember seeing him rip Burnley to shreds...... would have thought that Preston fans would have appreciated that. A lot of the Preston fans seem to think that he is a confidence player. Now, there are two sides to that coin. On one hand we really don''t need another Jamie Cureton. On the other hand, confidence players either do really well for a new club or really poorly. A change might be exactly what he needs. Cureton had a very poor season at Swindon, the fans gave him stick, and then he went to Colchester where he scored a few good goals on loan - the fans got behind him, he regained his confidence and had an excellent season the year after. My main concern is that City fans are very fickle. It would only take three or four games for us to write him off, if we really got behind the team and the players, then we can help to bring out the best in them. Although an extreme example, Huckerby was a confidence player. He has said that the support he got from City fans is the reason he was untouchable for three or four years here. On the other hand, even a Huckerby lacking confidence would have been one of the best in the championship. The Whaley signing is going to be one of those where it will be an absolute bargain or an absolute nightmare. He will (hopefully) have the benefit of not having to justify a huge price tag. I also think that Luke Daley will give him a very good fight this year for the shirt. If Whaley doesn''t bring us consistant performances, he at least brings us competition for places. The club didn''t want to lose Croft, and he is a hard player to replace when your not only skint, but playing in League One. I am going to give Whaley the chance that he deserves, and hope that he comes good (if we sign him!)    

[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] [quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload! [/quote] Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones. We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold. [/quote] The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, it''s a free... I thought this one had been done to death already? [/quote] Fair enough I must have missed that. In fairness I tend to stay off of threads that get any bigger than 50 posts...... so anything ''done to death'' has probably not been done by me at all ;-) [/quote] [;)] [/quote] [;)]

[quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] I think you mean "Belief"   [/quote] Is your best counter-argument still to pick people up on their spelling?? Why don''t you try pointing out to Arthur that belief works on more levels than just assuming we have to be a big club.  I think the reason why some people aren''t getting too upset at the moment is because we are approaching the start of the new season with new players who, despite all the postulating on both sides, few of us have seen play.  They could turn out shite, or they could turn out to be a team of future legends.  Having belief in the team doesn''t just mean shouting "we''re supposed to be a big club, this League 1 is shit", it surely means believing that there are better things around the corner and that, to coin a phrase, the only way is up?  Shouting and singing our hearts out at Carrow Road will make it more of a fortress than standing grumbling into a pastie and will certainly show more ''belief''... [/quote] I never normally pick people up on their spelling. As for a counter argument, there is nothing that I can say to Arthur that would give him more belief in this club. Although I agree with certain aspects of his feelings towards the club and certain members of the board, he knows very well that there are other aspects that I disagree with. He also knows exactly what actions would have to be taken at the club for him personally to have more belief in the club. In order for Arthur Whittle to have more belief and optimism in the club, either 1). A wealthy investor would have to buy Delia out and completely change the culture of the club. Or 2). Delia would have to leave, to be replaced by smaller local businessmen with no money, who could at least give the club a new energy and community feel. As for the other 40,000 registered fans of the club, they can only speak for themselves, I cannot generalise and it is up to each of them to express their opinions on platforms such as the Pink Un messageboard. Something which of course many of us, you and me included, do on an almost daily basis. There is no simple argument or answer to the question. I hope that meets to your satisfaction.   [/quote]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] I think you mean "Belief"   [/quote] Is your best counter-argument still to pick people up on their spelling?? Why don''t you try pointing out to Arthur that belief works on more levels than just assuming we have to be a big club.  I think the reason why some people aren''t getting too upset at the moment is because we are approaching the start of the new season with new players who, despite all the postulating on both sides, few of us have seen play.  They could turn out shite, or they could turn out to be a team of future legends.  Having belief in the team doesn''t just mean shouting "we''re supposed to be a big club, this League 1 is shit", it surely means believing that there are better things around the corner and that, to coin a phrase, the only way is up?  Shouting and singing our hearts out at Carrow Road will make it more of a fortress than standing grumbling into a pastie and will certainly show more ''belief''... [/quote] I never normally pick people up on their spelling. As for a counter argument, their is nothing that I can say to Arthur that would give him more belief in this club. Although I agree with certain aspects of his feelings towards the club and certain members of the board, he knows very well that there are other aspects that I disagree with. He also knows exactly what actions would have to be taken at the club for him personally to have more belief in the club. In order for Arthur Whittle to have more belief and optimism in the club, either 1). A wealthy investor would have to buy Delia out and completely change the culture of the club. Or 2). Delia would have to leave, to be replaced by smaller local businessmen with no money, who could at least give the club a new energy and community feel. As for the other 40,000 registered fans of the club, they can only speak for themselves, I cannot generalise and it is up to each of them to express their opinions on platforms such as the Pink Un messageboard. Something which of course many of us, you and me included, do on an almost daily basis. There is no simple argument or answer to the question. I hope that meets to your satisfaction.  

[quote user="olej"]http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/norwichcitycarrowroad_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZ Selling socks and shirts players who arent at the club wore in games we lost[/quote] We have been doing this for years now. If I was ever to by such an item, which I probably wouldn''t, the first place I would look to buy from is the club. A little note from the club in with the item is the best certificate of authenticity you could have...... buying from anybody but the club could be some bloke on here sewing football league badges onto replica shirts.

[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"] [quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload! [/quote] Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones. We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold. [/quote] The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, its a free... I thought this one had been done to death already? [/quote] Fair enough I must of missed that. In fairness I tend to stay off of threads that get any bigger than 50 posts...... so anything ''done to death'' has probably not been done by me at all ;-)

[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote] All I can comment on is the 3 or 4 times that I have seen him play over the last few years. Each time he has looked direct, pacey and intelligient. At the moment we don''t have any direct, pacey and intelligient wingers. To keep things simple, I see the addition of such a player to add to what we have currently got. I also seem to remember him being a much better crosser of the ball than Lee Croft. So you asked why people are pleased with this signing (although what you meant to say is why WOULD people be pleased with this singing - as of course it has not yet happened. And I feel that I have answered this question accordingly, considering I can only speak for myself.

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload! [/quote] Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones. We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"][quote user="gsr600"][quote user="Graham Humphrey"]What do you base that on? [/quote] check his stats on derbys website, but hey why let the facts get in the way of us signing a player for money, doesnt matter if hes crap hes cost some money which oh yeah must be better then having a freebie[/quote] Why the hell are you having a go at me for? I only asked a question. Anyway you''re the one who''s having trouble with facts here and not me. You did conveniently forget to mention he scored 4 in 9 for Blackpool and 6 in 13 for Huddersfield. Not to mention his record at Stockport (which is why Derby decided to sign him in the first place). He might not be brilliant but to come out with garbage like his record is worse than Cureton''s and then get stroppy when someone might ask why you think that ain''t doing you any favours. [/quote] I didn''t see Blackpool and Huddersfield queing up to take the boy on! Considering Blackpool are Championship, and Huddersfield have plenty of money, don''t you think that says a little about Liam Dickinson as either a player or a person? What about his record in Manchester Sunday League Football where for two consecutive seasons he failed to get into double figures, before his one good season at Stockport?

[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]I would have him over Michael Bridges........ his legs have gone, as simple as.[/quote] I''m pretty sure you''re wrong........... [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/e5ps39.png[/IMG] [/quote] They can do wonderful things with prosthetic limbs these days Evil Monkey..... hairs on them and all sorts.

I think you mean "Belief"  

I would have him over Michael Bridges........ his legs have gone, as simple as.

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="super dave"] They were text messages sent   [/quote] no.. they werent.. they were made up by you... even if there were text messages sent anyone can whip out a mobile and say "look at this text i got from Sammy clingan!" cant they? if you believe them then more fool you. jas :) [/quote] Exactly, I could send a text to you now Jas (if I had your number) pretending to be Sammy Clingan, 95% of people wouldn''t believe you. The other 5% would come and post it on here.