nutty nigel

So are you saying Mr Watling saved the club from Mr Chase?   But then he sold to Mr & Mrs Wynn Jones....   Who''s gonna save us now[:S]    

[quote user="No 9 - Bly"]A a nephew of the late great Terry Bly I wish you would chhose another user name to spout this rubbish under[/quote] [Y]  

[quote user="All in Yellow"]That is the first Daily Mail story I have ever read. I thought each paragraph had to include either ''immigrant'' or ''Princes Diana'' in order to get published...[/quote]   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI   [:)]    

OK Butler, instead of trying to be clever and condescending why don''t you help me to understand what you are asking and more importantly why you are asking it?   Ooops.... nearly forgot..... [:D]  

[quote user="Legend Iwan"] I''m going to stay in France again this week and go for - Lille Vs RC Lens Home Win Lillie are currently sitting top of Ligue 1 going 10 games unbeaten, whilst Lens are struggling to stave off relegation sitting one place off bottom. [/quote]   This game is due to be played on 29th Legend. Lille play in the French Cup this weekend. I hope you see this in time to make a revised selection.   As for my selection - I''m with Tilly this week and think that Luton will beat Gateshead in The Conference. Luton''s home record is W9 D2 L1 F34 A8 while Gatehead away are W2 D3 L6 F11 A21.   Luton     V     Gateshead     Home Win    

[quote user="ricardo"] To clarify. It was distinctly stated that our PROFIT from catereing was higher than the catering TURNOVER of many Premier Clubs. Make of that what you will. [/quote]   Now why do you find it so difficult to take this at it''s face value Butler?    

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Blah, Grants introduction to management was to watch three of his best players leave for £5.5m and for Hucks to come out and slam the lack of ambition of the board. It was also around that time that the club captain called our squad "ridiculously small". The cracks were there and widening and the negative momentum gathering pace. It would have taken more than a young coach generously given about half the value of the players just sold to patch things up to reverse that, don`t you think?[/quote] Where did Hucks slam the lack of ambition by the board? He questioned the quality of the players replacing those who left.  

But you are doubting it Butler. You are trying every which way to cling on to the views you held last year.   In reality it''s so very simple : -   Gate receipts and ticket sales 6,989 Football Association and League income 1,595 Catering 3,757 Commercial 3,652 Other Income 737   Now this is exactly how it''s reported in the accounts and I have no reason to believe that ticket income is recorded in catering. I am quite happy to believe what I read. You are the one "banging the drum" as you put it to doubt the accuracy of these figures.   Why?  

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]   Zigger, Zigger, Zigger.........?     [/quote] Tanker, Tanker, Tanker..........    

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="The Butler"] But you, as last year, are the one quoting the figures. Why can''t you then answer the questions. Or do you not know the answers. If not how do you know what the FACTS are about what you quote? [/quote] Really? I thought that in both cases Ricardo reported what McNally had said.   [/quote] Your honour I rest my case! [/quote] Tell you what I''ll do Butler. As you are too shy to ask yourself I will do it for you at the next opportunity. I used to do a similar thing for my kids when they were young.  

[quote user="The Butler"] But you, as last year, are the one quoting the figures. Why can''t you then answer the questions. Or do you not know the answers. If not how do you know what the FACTS are about what you quote? [/quote] Really? I thought that in both cases Ricardo reported what McNally had said.  

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] my old GP once wisely advised me that ''two queens can''t rule''.   [/quote]   I wonder witch doctor that was[^o)]  

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]   Chase bought and sold successfully for 9 of his 10 years or so, and messed up at the end.     [/quote] Sometimes I think you live on another planet! Can we have examples of this selling and buying successfully? The only Chairman I can remember doing this was Sir Arthur.   [/quote]   Refer to the other parts of the post above to which you refer   Are you seriously saying that all this success during 9 of his 10 years was not underpinned by successful player trading?   OTBC   [/quote] Yes  

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"] You''re hanging on to that driftwood by your fingernails Butler. Common sense surely tells you that this catering revenue shows a good profit. Can you give me one good reason why McNally would set so much store by it if it didn''t?   Catering and commercial income together amount to more than gate receipts. God help us if they represent a loss.   Undoubtedly McNally has increased the profitability of all areas of the club but the thing that this board has got right that the others failed for many years is in having someone who could spend the football budget to good effect.   The old board got a lot right off the pitch but very little right on it for their last few years.     [/quote] Not hanging on to anything Nutty.You mistake interest for crtiticism. If you read last years and this years posts on the subject I keep asking the same questions and still no answers I am NOT doubting a profit  but would just like to know what is fact. As you seem to be reading from the accounts perhaps you can tell me. There is an expression that goes something like "The devil is in the detail" As long as the club have stopped haemorrhaging money at a vast rate who cares were it comes from.   [/quote] Well now Butler, here''s something radical. I believe the club still communicate with and answer fans questions in person and on web chats. I asked Delia a question on a web chat only last year because I wanted an answer. And in your position as chairman of NCISA I believe you''ve had at least one opportunity since you asked these on last years posts to ask McNally himself.  

You''re hanging on to that driftwood by your fingernails Butler. Common sense surely tells you that this catering revenue shows a good profit. Can you give me one good reason why McNally would set so much store by it if it didn''t?   Catering and commercial income together amount to more than gate receipts. God help us if they represent a loss.   Undoubtedly McNally has increased the profitability of all areas of the club but the thing that this board has got right that the others failed for many years is in having someone who could spend the football budget to good effect.   The old board got a lot right off the pitch but very little right on it for their last few years.    

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]   Chase bought and sold successfully for 9 of his 10 years or so, and messed up at the end.     [/quote] Sometimes I think you live on another planet! Can we have examples of this selling and buying successfully? The only Chairman I can remember doing this was Sir Arthur.  

[quote user="First Wizard"] [quote user="toftwood"]Wiz: "don''t wish anyone''s death, but that is the stark, harsh reality of the situation" This is a particularly nasty comment and you should be careful what you wish for. Delia & Co have done a mighty job in recent times and always given their best. You on the other hand are just an dumb-nut![/quote]   Believe the myth then toftwood, but it was Mr Watling who saved the club..........not the cook.   [/quote]   What or who did Mr Watling save the club from?  

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]   You''re too kind.   OTBC [/quote]   The lifeboat would be no use to you Babes. You wouldn''t have the gumption to recognise it for what it was.  

[quote user="yellow hammer"]Nutty Nigel wrote: "Now one of the things from last years AGM was that McNally went out of the way to say how high our catering income was compared to other clubs. He said our catering income had been 20m while comparable Premier League clubs were only 6m. Ricardo reported it on here so I must have heard it and understood it right. But some on here indirectly accused McNally of spinning the figures and including ticket money in the catering figures. Others claimed that income didn''t mean profit. In fact many of the usual suspects were trying any argument to discredit what McNally had said. I believe Tangie also had quite strong views on this." A slip of the keyboard, Nutty, old chum? Surely income doesn''t mean profit? Income less expenses=profit? I think opening up two, new academy centres will have a major long-term positive impact on the club. And the PUPs have really got their work cut out now... Fantastic news all round, long may it continue. YH[/quote]     Us PUPS love a challenge Mr Hammer[Y]   These figures quoted from last year obviously can''t be right. According to the accounts gate receipts last year were only 6,989 as opposed to 7,763 in 2009.  Catering income was 3,757 as opposed to 3,460. Last year catering was responsible for over 22% of group turnover where as in 2009 it was responsible for nearly 20% of group turnover which is probably where the figures came from.    Your post reminds me of a drowning man clinging to a piece of driftwood. Obviously income doesn''t mean profit but clinging on to your belief that the sheep fell for some sort of cover up last year just doesn''t add up to me. It''s quite likely that, as in other areas, the profit margin has been improved but it''s unlikely that last years catering income didn''t turn a healthy profit. So I''m going to send you a lifeboat - "RNLI Common Sense" - because if catering revenue is much the same as the previous year it''s unlikely that a loss has been transformed into a profit as big as some premier clubs income.   Income from other sources is a neccessity in todays game. Especially for clubs outside the Premier League. This is something the previous board got right. What they probably got wrong was giving this income to the wrong football manager to spend on the wrong football players.    

[quote user="Gingerpele"] I won''t be able to make then 11th :( I have a 2 hour lecture, then a seminar from 4-5, so won''t be able to get a train until 5:30, meaning wouldn''t be back in Norwich until about 9:00... Maybe i will never meet any of you :P [/quote]   Sorry you can''t make it but there will be many more opportunities. Late summer is when we usually do the presentation so hopefully that will be easier for you.    

That wasn''t an email it was a Web Chat [;)]   But I have got a hand written letter from Delia in 2004. It''s not framed but I kept it[:O]    

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Well it`s nice to know that despite the current blip, normal service will apparently soon be resumed. Our best players will be sold every season for millions and we will be told that "All transfer money is reinvested in the team", despite the accounts showing huge yearly profits on player trading. We will go back to being net sellers of footballers in a big way rather than net buyers. More land and roads will be bought plunging the club further into debt and the wonderful multi-storey carpark plans will be resurrected and implimented. Non-football costs will once more eat up virtually all the clubs revenue as it did in `08 (Luckily i only imagined the huge reduction in costs in the last set of accounts). The accounts will once more show expenditure on fixed assets in the millions rather than the few £100k of the last accounts. Anyone not whole-heartedly applauding the madness and suggesting that maybe a football club should be "obsessed" with football, rather than off-field matters will be branded "anti-club" "binner" and strongly warned that we "mustn`t do a Gretna"....... The argument was done and dusted over a year ago folks. Get over it and move on.[/quote] You really should compare like with like Mr Carrow. As you so often have said the old board did ok when the club was on the up. Following the sale of Bellamy for many years we kept our best players and added good players to the squad. This brought about a play-off season and a championship season. But it was as the club was going down that we became net sellers once more. This was not because we spent money in other areas, as I hope you can now see, but because our income fell away at the same time it became obvious we didn''t have the players to get back to the Premier League.   Now let''s hope that we continue to spend the football budget wisely and don''t repeat the mistakes of the past. Because if we did win promotion and then get relegated we could be back in a position where we have to sell again. It''s great having good intentions but for every WBA there''s a lot of Norwich, Palace and Southamptons.  

That would be great thanks Angel. And I will make sure there''s plenty of Arrdee sausages[:)]   I think you missed it last week but is February 19th ok for you to make the final selections?        

[quote user="TIL 1010"] The last quiz i was in one of the questions was....There have been six King Georges'' name five of them and i got every single one correct.[/quote] [:D][Y]