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Guess what Johnson once said about ID cards: "“If I am ever asked,” Boris Johnson once wrote of ID cards, “on the streets of London, or in any other venue, public or private, to produce my ID card as evidence that I am who I say I am, when I have done nothing wrong and am simply ambling along and breathing God’s fresh air like any other freeborn Englishman, then I will take that card out of my wallet and physically eat it in the presence of whatever emanation of the state has demanded I produce it.” https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/johnson-the-civil-libertarian-wants-to-have-his-voter-id-card-and-eat-it/ar-BB1gC0hm?ocid=uxbndlbing

No I don't want precious parts of the countryside to be sacrificed to property developers who want to build highly expensive houses on crammed estates. I've seen enough of those in Norfolk already. There are huge numbers of sites already purchased by developers that have had nothing built on them for many years. Once those have been built on then the government should be looking to develop inner city and brownfield sites. But we all know that developers are not interested in anything other than prime countryside to maximise their profits. Of course it is no coincidence whatsoever that property developers are major contributors to Tory Party funds.

Meanwhile Johnson seems to be determined to destroy the countryside beloved by many Norfolk folk: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/johnson-s-planning-laws-an-utter-disaster-say-countryside-campaigners/ar-BB1gCd6V?ocid=msedgntp I expect Jenrick might need to contemplate opening a Swiss bank account to cope with the "donations" rolling in from developers.

I rest my case

Basically Frost is admitting that he and Johnson either lied to the UK public, or were so incompetent that they signed a deal without realising its disastrous consequences for the UK. Personally i would plump for the Latin use of the inclusive "or" (vel) in this particular case.

Yep! I'm afraid the RWNJs use the same glaringly obvious tactic for almost every issue: set up an obviously absurd straw man argument that no one in reality has actually presented, knock it down, and claim victory. Sadly for them no one is remotely impressed or fooled by such an immature approach.

The effects of brexit are completely relevant to the career of a Tory leader who lied about it to the voting public in order to cheat his way into power. The disastrous economic consequences of brexit will undoubtedly remain very significant given Johnson's claims that it is a wonderful deal. I'm afraid your claims in the last few posts have been soundly refuted and you can't escape that fact by simply expressing your boredom with the issue.You are not obliged to respond to any other person's post on the matter of Johnson's culpability for the brexit disaster, but the idea you have any authority to demand others stop discussing the issue is both absurd and arrogant.

Just how many of the UK's Islamic fundamentalist terrorists arrived in the country via EU "free travel" regulations? I think one will find they were pretty much exclusively "home grown".

I'm afraid this is simply wrong.You need to go on-line and check the number of SMEs and other businesses that are complaining that a drastic drop in exports is entirely down to brexit. Only last week I posted a report from the Food and Drink Federation that showed the dairy industry had lost £1.1bn in export trading with the EU since January due to brexit regulations (96% down). These are real figures not speculative nonsense. Similarly it is brexit regulations that have decimated exports from UK fishermen. I suggest you go to the Road Haulage Association site too and see what they have to say. Brexit regulations are the issue, not Covid regulations.

Oh dear! Your exceptional levels of ignorance displayed yet again.

They can empty the bin but it will still stink.

Are you really so sure? The evidence of his performances at PL level (when he was in his prime) suggests quite the opposite.

What voters will worry about most of all will be the economic destruction caused by brexit. They will worry about the job losses caused by the removal of furlough. They will be angered by inquiry findings that will show the bungled handling of the Covid crisis caused thousands of unnecessary deaths. They will be angered by inquiry findings that will show incompetent and corrupt use of taxpayer's money to line the pockets of Tory chums. And as all these factors (and others) combine to cause growing discontent with a Tory government's mismanagement of the country, Boris Johnson's corrupt behaviour and compulsive lying will no longer wear the garb of a lovable buffoon but be exposed as the naked selfishness of a crook willing to bring the honour of the most important office in the land into egregious disrepute for the sake of a few quid. You may wish to characterise recent revelations as trifling concerns about who paid for Johnson's wallpaper; luckily the inquiries into those affairs will not mischaracterise them in this shallow way. They will be focused upon the potentially criminal activity of money being stuffed into Johnson's back pocket in return for future favour and influence. The Electoral Commission and the Parliamentary Standards Committee will act according to legal principle and not voter bias, and that will render Johnson's "charm" irrelevant.

Oh stop it! I might die laughing. Pure comic genius!

Gosh! How do you manage to come up with such side-splitting humour???

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/matt-hancock-admits-only-6-voter-fraud-cases-at-last-election-as-protests-grow-over-photo-id-crackdown/ar-BB1gBioM?ocid=msedgntp Oh dear! Hancock pontificating on voter fraud. Well I suppose he's an expert on defrauding the voter/taxpayer, as his chums will attest from the comfort of their new million pound homes.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/litter-campaign-tory-mp-who-dropped-cigarette-butt-accused-of-hypocrisy/ar-BB1gBby2?ocid=msedgntp

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/john-bercow-calls-boris-johnson-a-liar/vi-BB1gBg39?ocid=msedgdhp

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/republican-who-backed-arizona-audit-based-on-trump-s-election-lies-now-says-it-makes-us-look-like-idiots/ar-BB1gAl2T?ocid=msedgntp As a ploddingly slow election recount in Arizona drags on, some of the Republicans who originally called for it are expressing regret. “It makes us look like idiots,” Republican State Senator Paul Boyer told The New York Times. “Looking back, I didn’t think it would be this ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to be a state senator at this point.” Some are now wondering if it’s worth it. Rejecting the work done by state election officials six months ago, the State Senate has volunteered to count the vote with its own auditors, subpoenaing all 21 million ballots. To house the effort, the Senate has rented out the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum until 14 May – this Friday. So far their auditors have recounted about 250,000 votes. At that rate, they’ll be done some time in August. Arizona’s secretary of state, Katie Hobbs, has condemned the effort, saying the equipment being used is uncertified and the counting methods deviate from “standard best practices.” “Though conspiracy theorists are undoubtedly cheering on these types of inspections – and perhaps providing financial support because of their use – they do little other than further marginalise the professionalism and intent of this ‘audit,’” she said on Wednesday. Since making those comments, Ms Hobbs has received death threats, and Governor Doug Ducey has ordered state police to protect her. Even before the current review, Arizona’s 2020 vote had already been audited. In accordance with Arizona state law, county election officials performed hand-counts of large numbers of ballots and compared them to the original machine counts. According to county officials, the machine counts were found to be 100 per cent accurate. Officials worry the new recount effort will cast doubt on legitimate election results. “It would be unfortunate if the antics and false allegations of people who didn’t like the results lead voters to question a system that is designed to be fair,” Maricopa County communications director Fields Moseley told CBS News.

Bird feed is indeed very healthy, just don't buy any from Australia.

Going by the "intellectual capabilities" displayed in your posts, you've been eating such food from birth.

Oh look! Another dreadful consequence of the rubbish Australia trade deal: UK-Australia trade deal could mean children and patients eating meat reared in ways illegal in UK, warn experts Schoolchildren and hospital patients could be fed meat from hormone-fed cattle, chlorine-washed chicken and pigs kept in cruel stalls that are illegal in the UK under a trade deal with Australia, experts are warning. Farmers and environmentalists say allowing imports that create high greenhouse gas emissions and undermine animal welfare would be grossly hypocritical of the government.

You have basically just posted the same thing again. Sleaze may not be new, but never in living memory has the prime minister himself been so mired in it that he is the subject of several official investigations into his corrupt behaviour. Johnson may well be getting the benefit of the doubt under the current circunstances, but history suggests that it won't survive long if other factors erode the public's trust and happiness. And as I said, there is a veritable sh*t storm of fall-out from brexit, covid, and official inquiries awaiting this government. In the story I linked over half of those polled thought Johnson is seriously sleazy; we'll see how that affects their voting intentions when the Sh*t storm descends.

Perhaps you should read my post properly then you will see that I have said the sleaze factor will have a much more significant impact once, "the vaccine bounce wears off, and the effects of brexit hit home, when furlough stops and jobs are lost, when all the inquiries into sleaze and the disastrous and corrupt mismanagement of the Covid crisis are made public, then we shall a very different response to the sleaze rife in the most corrupt Tory Party in living memory.".

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/voters-associate-boris-johnson-with-dishonesty-and-greed-poll-finds/ar-BB1gz2Pl?ocid=msedgntp https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-mps-who-lobbied-judges-during-charlie-elphicke-sexual-assault-trial-under-investigation/ar-BB1gzCVq?ocid=msedgntp John Major discovered that sleaze eventually catches up with the Tories, and after being out of power since 1979, 1997 saw Labour win a 179 seat majority. Once the vaccine bounce wears off, and the effects of brexit hit home, when furlough stops and jobs are lost, when all the inquiries into sleaze and the disastrous and corrupt mismanagement of the Covid crisis are made public, then we shall a very different response to the sleaze rife in the most corrupt Tory Party in living memory.