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I know we''ve had several posts on Hull, Hughton etc but make no apologies for adding another as most of the existing posts seem to degenerate into the poster vs poster battles that we see a lot of on here and have gone completely off topicFirstly, the performance on Saturday was not up to standards.  I think we all know that.  OK its difficult to break down 10 men but too many people were off the boil.  In fact I would say only Turner (penalty aside) Redmond and Ruddy had reasonable games - Russell Martin probably had his worst game at CB, Johnson misplaced too many passes, Howson was anonymous, Fer had a couple of headers wide but that was all, RVW didnt play off the last man very often and didnt get picked out when he tried, Snodgrass kept falling over and then got wound up by the crowd, Garrido tried taking free kicks from central and right wing positions straight onto Hull heads, and Wes is just too lightweight for that kind of battle.  Very little second balls won, very little encouragement offeredHowever for once I dont think the blame can be left - totally at least - at CHs door.  OK the first 20 minutes was cagey - typical CH stuff - but not many sides will go hell for leather from the first kickoff away from home.  What I think was different was that - for once - Hughton tried to change it. First Sub at halftime - Snoddy on for Johnson - was quite attack minded.  Adding Elmander and Wes (in the hope that he could produce a bit of oldstyle quality) was the sort of thing our previous manager would have done.  Hughton cant however cross the white line - and so youre reliant on those that doMaybe leaving Redmond on would have been more attacking - perhaps putting Becchio on instead of Wes.  But Hull would have then won the physical battle.  Redmond was getting knackered.  The comment has been made about missing GH as well but we know that Holty isnt necessarily at his sharpest at the start of the seasonWhat Im ultimately trying to say is could anyone else - current manager, past manager, future manager, assistant managers, the wannabe managers on here - have done anything else with the players at our disposal on the day and got anything out of the game.  I''d suggest anyone - whether it be Lambert, Ferguson, Mourihno, et al - would have struggled with 6 or 7 players having an off day away from home

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At last.  A common sense view.  The easiest thing to do is jump on the manager''s back.     People like to see things in black and white.  I suppose till we win again, he is the easiest target.  But you''re right.  Players have to perform - and that is sometimes out of the manager''s hands.

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The current crop of players in my opinion is far better than that of last season and yet for some reason we cant play a pass or build an attack with any real venom and In my opinion it begs the question what are they doing in training??

Why are we so unable to push the opposition back and make a tackle? In my opinion our worst trait. We just watch players and run back with out fighting for the ball and that investabley ends in a goal.

I''m exteamly frustrated that absaloutly nothing has changed on the pitch even when we have invested millions of pounds worth of talent!

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Any player can have an off day LDC agreed, but when it happens to so many, so early in the season, against a team of 10 men it does get you thinking that there is something more fundamentally wrong than just an off day.

But it is grossly unfair to be as damning of the manager and the team as some have, but it isnt going take many more performances like that and even those trying to be supportive are going to be left with nowhere to go!

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[quote user="Canarygirl"]Any player can have an off day LDC agreed, but when it happens to so many, so early in the season, against a team of 10 men it does get you thinking that there is something more fundamentally wrong than just an off day.

But it is grossly unfair to be as damning of the manager and the team as some have, but it isnt going take many more performances like that and even those trying to be supportive are going to be left with nowhere to go![/quote]

I can agree with that.  Its up to Hughton to improve things.   The pressure is on - but then it always was.   I think he will improve the look of the team quite quickly once we are up and running with all the new players involved.  We need to build up some momentum and get the confidence going.

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Dozens of threads and hundreds of posts. Some sense;some lunacy. This is one of the best.

Yet very few mentions of the fact that we had one debutant and two playing only their second Premier league game. It is expecting a lot of them to be up to the pace and on top form from the start.

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[quote user="ReadingCanary"]I would prefer to play the worst football in the league and stay in the Prem

than the most exciting only to get relegated.
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I wouldnt

Maybe there is something wrong with the coaching/managing for so many players to have regualr off days away from home and at home to a lesser extent

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