Campbell 0 Posted January 8, 2005 TeamNORWICH CITYLeague Rank Games20 Goals1719 Shots18515 Conversion %9%19 Passes670414 Pass %74%9 Crosses44813 Cross %21%19 Tackles58317 Tackle %74%5 Fouls2976 Yellow Cards1916 Red Cards014 ShootingPlayerShotsShot % 1David Bentley3824% 2Darren Huckerby2748% 3Damien Francis2756% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Campbell 0 Posted January 8, 2005 Well I thought it was interesting anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Brum Uni Canary 0 Posted January 8, 2005 Hmm...not that these prove much, but it shows how useful Francis is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Campbell 0 Posted January 9, 2005 We don''t get enough from outside the box...and at this level, you need somebody who can produce that bit of magic. When Portsmouth came up, they got Berger, a long-range specialst...we don''t have one. Bentley has the potential, but isn''t quite there yet. We don''t have enough shots...our tackling is good, though we just need to make more...our crossing isn''t that great...Francis is awesome... Stats eh...brilliant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AJ 1,377 Posted January 9, 2005 go francis erm....... i cant believe i nearly sat and read all that Anyhow, shows we arnt really that bad as a team, maybe Ashton can improve our shooting stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Disco Dale 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Some of it is interesting, although don''t know what to make of the rest of it though. I was surprised that our 4 best passers were all defenders. I assumed that that honour would fall to the midfield, although we haven''t had a consistent midfield for a while due to injury.Statistics can be strange though. I am an egg-head scientist and routinely use stats at work. You can get them to show anything you want really. They are often used incorrectly as there are no rules about what statistics to use in what circumstance and there is a widespread ignorance associated with their use. Often incorrect assumptions are made based upon them. The following info is extracted from the player profiles on canaries.co.uk - probably a few errors in the data though when scrutinised. I always thought that a top quality striker should have a strike rate better than 1 in 3 (0.33).Matthias Jonson only appeared 37 times for Brondby in 4 seasons, but scored 38 goals! Hell of a strike rate that if the figures are to be believed. On this sort of form, you would expect one of the top European clubs (other than us) to have picked him up. Strike rate of 1.03 whilst in the Danish top flight. Hucks did hit 26 goals in the 01/02 season for Man City! In 93/94 and 94/95 Hucks hit 3 goals for Lincoln City without making a single appearance - miracle worker! Hucks has hit 103 career goals in 344 appearances. Strike rate of 0.30. Someone who can score without ever taking the field is a god! Leon has scored 72 career goals in his 10th season as a Pro (254 appearances). Strike rate of 0.28 with 19 goals in 01/02 season for the Posh.Matt Svensson has not scored more than 11 goals in a season in England. His goals tally in English football is 44 in 210 appearances in 9 seasons. Strike rate of 0.21.WLY has scored 32 goals in 171 appearances. Strike rate of 0.19.The Doc has scored 24 goals at club level in 174 appearances. Strike rate of 0.14. Many of those appearances would have been in defence, but coming up for set pieces, some would have been as a make shift striker.Jarvo and Henderson have strike rates of 0.10 and 0.11 so far. Worse than the strikers mentioned above, does this make them crap? No, it means that they are young and still learning their trade and the figures may be subject to a high degree of error due to the low numbers involved.For info: Dean Ashton has scored 68 in 175 appearances in five seasons for Crewe. Strike rate of 0.39 and looks like being a consistent 20 goal a season man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZLF 342 Posted January 10, 2005 Defenders are frequently the most successful passers in these types of stats - the ball across the back 4 or back to t he keeper is simple and rarely inaccurate , ditto the short ball to the deep midfielder.Interesting to see that we have moved from bottom (after 5 games) to 9th in successful passing - well done the coaching staff.Now if only they could do something about the defending...OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. 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Campbell 0 Posted January 8, 2005 Well I thought it was interesting anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brum Uni Canary 0 Posted January 8, 2005 Hmm...not that these prove much, but it shows how useful Francis is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Campbell 0 Posted January 9, 2005 We don''t get enough from outside the box...and at this level, you need somebody who can produce that bit of magic. When Portsmouth came up, they got Berger, a long-range specialst...we don''t have one. Bentley has the potential, but isn''t quite there yet. We don''t have enough shots...our tackling is good, though we just need to make more...our crossing isn''t that great...Francis is awesome... Stats eh...brilliant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,377 Posted January 9, 2005 go francis erm....... i cant believe i nearly sat and read all that Anyhow, shows we arnt really that bad as a team, maybe Ashton can improve our shooting stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dale 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Some of it is interesting, although don''t know what to make of the rest of it though. I was surprised that our 4 best passers were all defenders. I assumed that that honour would fall to the midfield, although we haven''t had a consistent midfield for a while due to injury.Statistics can be strange though. I am an egg-head scientist and routinely use stats at work. You can get them to show anything you want really. They are often used incorrectly as there are no rules about what statistics to use in what circumstance and there is a widespread ignorance associated with their use. Often incorrect assumptions are made based upon them. The following info is extracted from the player profiles on canaries.co.uk - probably a few errors in the data though when scrutinised. I always thought that a top quality striker should have a strike rate better than 1 in 3 (0.33).Matthias Jonson only appeared 37 times for Brondby in 4 seasons, but scored 38 goals! Hell of a strike rate that if the figures are to be believed. On this sort of form, you would expect one of the top European clubs (other than us) to have picked him up. Strike rate of 1.03 whilst in the Danish top flight. Hucks did hit 26 goals in the 01/02 season for Man City! In 93/94 and 94/95 Hucks hit 3 goals for Lincoln City without making a single appearance - miracle worker! Hucks has hit 103 career goals in 344 appearances. Strike rate of 0.30. Someone who can score without ever taking the field is a god! Leon has scored 72 career goals in his 10th season as a Pro (254 appearances). Strike rate of 0.28 with 19 goals in 01/02 season for the Posh.Matt Svensson has not scored more than 11 goals in a season in England. His goals tally in English football is 44 in 210 appearances in 9 seasons. Strike rate of 0.21.WLY has scored 32 goals in 171 appearances. Strike rate of 0.19.The Doc has scored 24 goals at club level in 174 appearances. Strike rate of 0.14. Many of those appearances would have been in defence, but coming up for set pieces, some would have been as a make shift striker.Jarvo and Henderson have strike rates of 0.10 and 0.11 so far. Worse than the strikers mentioned above, does this make them crap? No, it means that they are young and still learning their trade and the figures may be subject to a high degree of error due to the low numbers involved.For info: Dean Ashton has scored 68 in 175 appearances in five seasons for Crewe. Strike rate of 0.39 and looks like being a consistent 20 goal a season man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 342 Posted January 10, 2005 Defenders are frequently the most successful passers in these types of stats - the ball across the back 4 or back to t he keeper is simple and rarely inaccurate , ditto the short ball to the deep midfielder.Interesting to see that we have moved from bottom (after 5 games) to 9th in successful passing - well done the coaching staff.Now if only they could do something about the defending...OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites