Matt Morriss

Agreed. BREAKING NEWS: Man isnt allowed to have his own opinion and interests. Feminists in total outrage! Anyone who is lambasting Webber for saying this is 100% wrong in their narrow minded thinking. I would rather utter honesty from him, than fake blowing smoke up the womens game's a**. I have zero interest whatsoever in the Womens game, never have and never will (unless it surpasses the quality and heights of the mens game, which is highly unlikely). In the same fashion I would rather listen to Sinatra, Bowie and Aretha Franklin than f**** Little Mix and Sam Smith. Why should I lie and when questioned say "Yeah I can get enough of Little Mix"... In a world of fake people, fake lives, fake lips and fake everything Webber's honesty is sorely appreciated.

Good point, cant knock Webber at all for the Farke appointment, but he did basically just do the same thing he did at Huddersfield and raided Borussia Dortmund II. He then went with Wagner again. It does look like lazy recruitment.

Skipp, Buendia, Tettey, Stiepermann, Vrancic, Hernandez, Cantwell (remained but not really), Rupp (lesser extent). Perhaps not the full 8 were highly influential players however they were the bedrock of the first 11 for the two championship winning seasons. When you replace those players with what we did, with only Kabak having any Prem or English football experience, it was never going to work. The previous years the players had a full Championship winning season to gel. Farke had 7/8 new players to gel and quick. It was madness.

This is all spot on, but with the exception of Sara, Webber hasnt had a good signing since Skipp 2 years ago, and that was on loan.

You dont know that at all and are just surmising. There is no evidence that the fans would have turned on Farke the way we did on Smith. To suggest things would have gone toxic second time round is pure speculation. I actually believe the Brentford win could well have been a turning point. Perhaps not survival, as the new players were woefully inadequte as we all know now, but I believe we would have improved from that first 10 games. Under Smith not only did we not improve at all, we massively regressed. It took Farke 15 months in charge to get us to tick, and once he had gotten a whole new team it still took time. Farke got another new team when the old charge left, 8 players remember not just Skipp and Emi. And he was given 10 games to make it work. In a far tougher, more unforgiving league. He was given 15 months first time round. That second season 5 games in and we werent looking good. Then he changed it with the Pukki/Stiepermann swap and it was lift off. But the 2nd Prem season he gets 10 games, with that first 6 run in, with the likes of Gilmour, Rashica, Tzolis and Sargent. I think even Pep and Klopp would have struggled.

What Webber should have done was take his head out of his arrogant a$$ and admit that the players bought for Farke to replace 8 highly, highly influential players utterly pivotal to our success, were woefully inadequate to compete at the highest level, let alone get results against Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal. And that a knee jerk reaction and sacking Farke was not the correct decision at the time. Of all the things Webber has done, and lets not forget he has overseen one of the best periods in our history, relatively speaking, but sacking Farke and appointing Smith was a catastrophic error and grounds for dismissal. Its the stock market equivalent of a bad trade costing the firm millions and millions. Im sure a trader would be relieved of his duties in that scenario. Webber seems to be beyond reproach however with the current state of nepotism within the club. I am of the opinion that had Farke not been sacked, we may well still have gone down as I believe the squad was not capable, but we would have made more of a fight of it than we did under Smith (Southampton away anyone). We would have then gone into this last season with the leagues most savvy operator.

"1. Was sacked entirely justifiably " - based on losing his first 6 games against the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal when trying to completely revamp our playing style, after losing 8 players he just won the league with, including Buendia and Skipp, only to be replaced by two Bundesliga 2 forwards who just got Werder Bremen relegated, and Tzolis, Gilmour, PLM, Normann etc. and get them to instantly adapt to English football, let alone the Prem, and go and beat Man City. Yep, totally justifiable. 4. Best man manager/coach of individuals ever at NCFC, but absolute **** tactically and in game. - Won the league TWICE. Out tactic'd Pep Guardiola. Beat Newcastle, Leicester, shoulda beat Spurs 2-0, then beat them in the FA Cup. Yeah Farke was definitely absolute **** tactically. First Champ winning season our entire uplift in fortunes was based on Farkes tactical switch 5 games in to drop Rhodes, push Pukki up front and play Stiepermann in the hole. Everyone forgets this happened, but it was a distinct change that worked wonders. Not to mention the entire overhaul selling Maddison and the Murphys and going full bore on Farkeball. Which then won TWO league titles. A lot of his Prem subs and pre match setups were on a hiding to nothing. We were never equipped to survive in the Prem. Dennis Srbeny, Amadou, Patrick Roberts, Ondreij Duda, Josip Drmic. Nah, wasnt the players it was Farke, he was **** tactically. Some people shouldnt be allowed to talk about football.

Yeah he's really going to come out and say... " Well Paddy, we've got f*** all money to spend and Webber has just got rid of 8 players who I won the league with last year, and replaced them with 2 forwards that got Werder Bremen relegated, a pretty boy who's always injured, some greek kid who looks 12, a french lanky tw** ive never heard of and Billy '1 good game ever' Gilmour. Were f***** mate"

I thought we would survive both seasons under Farke, blind optimism most likely. So maybe under Smith where we look far from ready for the Prem, maybe we will all be surprised. Under Farke we blew away everyone and were by far the best team in the League, and it done us no favours at all in the Prem.

I am no fan of Dean Smith at all and agree with the OP re: Farke, but its a bit ridiculous to suggest Smith should be sacked tonight. We are top of the league. You dont sack a manager top of the league. Having said that I believe it is a false position and in no way indicates we are either moving in the right direction or Dean Smith will be a success in the Prem with Norwich. I believe it is a false position because the teams we have played so far have been utterly woeful, League 1 standard. The Championship has dropped in quality since Farke's last title win. The second we come up against a decent side in Reading we struggled. Bristol were the better team and we got away with it as we have the best 2 strikers in the League. Prestion werent great but were solid and organised and executed there counter attacking game plan well. Last 4 games have not been great. Draw with West Brom, narrowly beat a poor Blackpool side, draw with Reading and a loss to Preston. Next 6 games will be telling I think as its a tough run with Watford, Burnley, Stoke, Sheff Utd and QPR in the mix. If we are still top then we will just have to accept this is the Dean Smith way, Farkeball is gone and its as good as its gonna get. The problem for me is that the Championship is so poor and most teams are closer to League 1 standard than Prem standard. There are only a handful of decent teams, Norwich, Reading, QPR, Watford, Burnley. Rest of the league is utter dross. So we may well get promoted, but this current team and the way we play, I dont see how it survives in the Prem, and I just dont see that Smith is building a Prem survival team. In my opinion we are top because for the most part we have played League 1 quality teams.

'lie after lie' 😭😭😭 Seriously mate, get a life. Suns shining go out and enjoy it mate.

You do realise it wasn't me that originally said we were a national embarrassment last season? You are aware of that yes? Secondly at what point have I slagged the club off? Someone further up on this post gave his opinion that we were a national embarrassment last season. If you choose to pretend like last season didn't happen and we weren't a mess of a club at times then carry on pal in your delusional bubble. I'm also at a loss why you are disputing it, it's like last season didn't f@#£_ng happen for you. Were you asleep? The 7-0s and 5-0s. The bottom place finish 16 points from safety. The weekly demolish job by the media. We were an embarrassment in the Premier League and anyone who suggest otherwise, well I just don't know what you were watching. Secondly I was merely giving an example when I said we should spend £25m on 2 players like the Southamptons of this world. Yes perhaps using Southampton as an example wasn't the right team as they've spent more like £10m-£15m on each player. If it makes you happy and you can sleep at night, pick another team slightly higher up the Prem table. Either way, this is my opinion, which is the point of this board. And it's my opinion that spending far more on an individual player would have been better. This is my opinion mate, it's not right or wrong and you certainly don't have any kind of authority to determine its validity. If you have such a sad life that your only motivation in a day is to vet everyone's post on a football messageboard for 100% accuracy then I pity you. I was making an example point that spending £3m here and £8m there on players is not sufficient to stay up, and the teams that do spend significantly more on individual players. This is a universally accepted fact of life in the Prem. And again you do need to get a life pal if your energy is focused on nit picking every thing someone says on here to the death just to claim some kind of personal victory and destroy the poster because the point he made wasnt 100% grammatically correct or contained slightly incorrect detail. It's not that big a deal mate. Last season we were a shambles and the media looked upon us as such. We needed to spend £25m on players, not £5m to stay up. I fail to see why you have such a problem with these two opinions.

Some people post what they believe to be factual statements, that may or may not contain inaccuracies. Doesn't mean you have to pathetically jump all over it. Get a bloody life pal. And the fact is we were slated in the media last season. I fail to see why people are disputing this.

What is it with people wanting proof to backup everything thats said on here? Its pathetic. Were not in bloody school and every post isnt an essay on football, that must be backed up with proof and footnotes. This forum is the equivalent of football chat down the pub. Yet many, on this post as an example just want to dispute everything said. Everything said are opinions, they may include factual statements that are innacurate or incorrect. This doesnt mean you have to jump on everything little thing and throw your toys out the pram because your either butt hurt about something, dont agree or just have a strange fascination of requiring people show proof and back up of everything thing they say.

Not really Horsefly. I posted an opinion of how things could have gone had we spent differently and kept Emi and Skipp. It was you that decided to reply to my opinion as if I was stating scientific fact disputing it.

I didnt even share this opinion, I just echoed it. The OP i think used the term national embarassment.

Oh Sweary..... Firstly, if you disect my comment I didnt call you a W&nker. I assumed that you had just let it slip that you were in actual fact Colin W&nker, which as we all know is Neil Warnock's alter ego. Secondly, what exactly is your issue? Are you actually trying to convince everyone that Norwich werent portrayed as anything other than a laughing stock by the sports media? You seem to be demanding proof of it and are convinced it didnt happen. Everyone knows it did pal, we just didnt save every website article or record every Match of the Day clip/Talksport phone in. Becuase, well, who the f&%k does that? Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

wasnt my discussion either and I still cant work out why certain people seem to be so upset at the suggestion that the media labelled us a national embarrassment last season. They did, because we were. Everytime we were mentioned on Match of the Day, Sky Sports, Talksport, the press etc. it was all about how $hite we were. How someone is claiming this didnt happen, and is almost personally offended at the suggestion it did, is beyond me. Said person also seems to conflate the above happening with people actually being affected by it personally and being upset.

This is possibly the worst comeback in the history of the internet. Grammar correction, and telling us your Colin W&nker. As for evidence, its all in my memory from last season's media attacks at how pathetic we were.

Christ, some people will argue with a lamp shade. Its just an opinion mate, you dont have to disect everything people say and try to work out the scientific validity and whether its provable or not. Any 'might have been' opinion is just that, speculation and conjecture. I think its pretty universal to suggest had we been able to keep Buendia and Skipp, and then spent £50m on two proven quality Premier League players, that we we would have had a far better chance of survival than spunking the lot on Tzolis, Sargent and Rashica and PLM.

You have better eyesight than me then as since November 21 I have failed to see any sense of progressive gameplan from Smith. Maybe it will change with the new players. I disagree with Farkes first season though, to me it was clear what Farke was trying to do, we just didnt have the players to execute it.

Just use your real name then. I have a career also and my firm has connections with the club as a regional partner, however this doesnt mean i have to post anonymously . Your just making excuses. If you knew me personally you would know im far from the sensitive type, i just get sick of everytime i come on here we see keyboard warriors like you, posting anonymously, spouting abuse at people who disagree. You seem to also have made more out of my suggestion. It wasnt a virtual 'lets step outside', and i dont see whats laughable or pathetic about it. Your just saying that to distance yourself even further from actually doing it, along with your 'safeguarding issues cause of your career' crap. Its a valid suggestion to try to get the anonymous and cowardly children on here that act big and tough and hurl abuse, to act like adults and just have conversation and debate about NCFC. I have always said dont say things on the internet that you wouldnt have the balls to say to someones face (cue the ' i would say everything ive said to your face cause im hard' reply). I also dont understand why you so vehemently are attacking people who said we were a laughing stock and an embarassment last season. We were, and it was a running theme in the sports media. I dont know where your getting it from that it wasnt the case. And also why you seem to be taking it so seriously and are battling people who say that we were and demanding 'proof'.

I feel like though, the longball stuff was more last resort in the absence of any prior game plan. That seems to be a growing theme under Smith. Lack of game plan. I may be wrong, as im not a professional footballer, but when several players start resorting to hoof balls its down to a lack of plan. We never saw it under Farke, we stuck to Farkeball right to the last minute. Look at the Forest 3-3. 97th minute and Farkeball gets the equaliser. Farkeball to the death. Against Cardiff we were punting after 40 mins! Because there was no other plan in the players minds. Farkeball has been well and truly coached out of them. This is why at times we look clueless attack wise and lack an identity and an obvious tactical plan on how to formulate goal scoring chances. Without a plan the players are just resorting to punting towards goal.

Im not sure why this is being debated. The sports media last season, whether you take it seriously, to heart, or dont give 2 shiny $****s, had labelled us an embarrassment. And they were probably right, we were abysmal at times.

I think it would have served us better than spreading £50m thinly like we did. We arent competing with Man U. We're trying to stay up. History shows filling your team with £7m players is far more unlikely to result in survival next to the team that buys £25m players. Pretty obvious one that one id say. We did it once or twice, but the teams that remained in the Prem, your Southamptons and Burnleys, have consistently bought players in the £25m mould rather than £5m-£10m like we do. Also you seem to have misunderstood what I said. I didnt say we should have kept Emi and Skipp. I said we needed to have kept Emi and Skipp and added with the £25m players, to have stood a far more realistic chance of being competitive and staying up.