YELLOW BELLY 0 Posted September 13, 2004 I thought the boys played well against Spurs, the first half was a bit ''backs against the wall'' but the second half when Huckerby got more involved we looked a good premeirship team. It does worry me that we are too reliant on Huckerby to create chances and provide pace upfront.. When Huckerby was running down the left at Spurs we lacked pace ''upfront'' to provide another man in the box.. I thought Leon had a reasonable run out and would like to see him given more of a game.. If Huckerby was to get injured we would lose both our creativity spark and pace in attack.. I''m not sure we need a new target man as much as another pacy stricker with Huckerby given a free role on the left..With the start we have made we look capable of staying up and winning games.. but we need to score more goals.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDelia is Magic 0 Posted September 13, 2004 I agree with you yellow belly. Although the Huck is outstanding, and IMO our best player by a long way, we are totally reliant on him. If he did his cruciate knee ligements tomorrow we would be absolutely screwed! I hope to god that he stays fit but I do think we need to look to other avenues to create chances Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meeky 0 Posted September 13, 2004 "I thought Leon had a reasonable run out and would like to see him given more of a game.. "Agree with your points there. I to, would like Leon given a good run out, even start a game instead of Doherty. Why do we need a target man? Yesterday in the 2nd half when Hucks was making his runs, there was no one in the box for him to cross or pass it to. However when Leon came on and Hucks made yet another run, Leon was in the six yard box for him to pass to, and if it wasn''t for exceptional defending he could have scored. It''s no good having a player of Hucks ability if he has to do it all on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tufnell Park Canary 0 Posted September 13, 2004 You''re right - if leon was upfront with hucks it might mean that rather than failing to score after a dramatic run, Hucks could provide a simple pass for leon to tap in or head. The Doc has a role to play, but hucks is too quick for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beelsie 0 Posted September 13, 2004 several good points made on this thread, Yes! I''m afraid we do make our attack into a one man Hucks band. This is due to the inability of the team to quickly move forward as a team. We must have at least two or three striking options in the 18 yard area to support him and vary the approach. He has several times started to make his forward move when our mid field have the ball, only for them to play the ball too late and get him into an off-side position. The lack of midfield support speed cries out for the old fashioned hold the ball up striker, Ist div stuff i''m afraid, and of no use in the prem. We must get the team moving forward as a unit quickly passing and moving giving our forwards options and learning that the diagonal ball is so much harder to defend against : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzathegreat 0 Posted September 13, 2004 boys and girls, this is music to gazza''s ears the era of no more target man can not come quickly enough!!and yes, leon should start the game, how is he ever going to prove himself in the final ten minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morph 31 Posted September 13, 2004 Don''t want to appear negative in saying this but I don''t think Worthington knows how to play without a target man.I''d agree with several of the others who have posted in this note on both points:a) need to find an attacking option that is NOT Huckerbyb) need to give Leon a start and try playing the type of game where the ball is on the deck when it goes forward.Can you imagine defending against both McKenzie and Huckerby making diagonal runs behind you looking for passes from the midfield?Actually that last question does raise something else - to play that kind of game you need somebody on the ball in the middle of the park that can knock those through balls through. Dare I say Mulryne? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzathegreat 0 Posted September 14, 2004 [quote]Don''t want to appear negative in saying this but I don''t think Worthington knows how to play without a target man. I''d agree with several of the others who have posted in this note on both points: a...[/quote]now come on morph, you are verging on the fantastical!!i for one would love to see it though and yes, we do have to start playing proper football without a target man and learn to pass to each other, most of the points on here today are about our passing going astray - or who is better than who - for god''s sake this should be elementary stuff!! worthy must get the hoofing up to a target man out of his mindset and play on the deck, put leon upfront with hucks the days of greeno to iwan are gone - we have to get used to life in the premiership and that means short sharp passing to each other, not long speculative balls upfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeelansGlove 0 Posted September 14, 2004 At last ! Spread the word, thought I''d been talking to myself since the begining of the season.Yes we are too reliant on Huckerby but that is because he is playing upfront whilst actually dropping deep onto the left (where he is most effective) but that means there is nobody infront of him to play the ball too.Lets just try for once the formation that served us so well last year, as posted elsewhere.Green Edworthy Charlton Fleming DruryJonson (or Mcveigh) Safri (or Helveg) Francis HuckerbyDoc McKenzieIf you wanted to be more defensive you could play Helveg in front of Edworthy to cover the defending Huckerby wont do, I think Safri is worth another try in the Centre whilst he lost lots of ball his pass over the top to Huckerby was without doubt the best pass from midfield.I would be happy with either Jonson or Mcveigh (something tells me Jonson is going to click soon given the chance) Bentley Isnt enough of a team player for me, a spell on the bench may focus his mind to play the easy ball rather than just looking for the 25 yarder every time.I think McKenzie needs 90 minutes, he has had chances in every single game this season. With more confidence and a better touch he should surely have scored at least 2 by now (and that probably would have equated to 4 more points) so he needs the chance to proove if he can do it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morph 31 Posted September 14, 2004 <quote>now come on morph, you are verging on the fantastical!!</quote>Me, fantastical!!!Actually KG I''d prefer to see Doc out of the front man configuration completely. Not because he''s done anything wrong, but simply it puts a certain type of play into other players minds.Playing CM03/04 with the current City side I have a formation like this: GreenEdworthy Docherty Shackell Drury Safri Holt FrancisHuckerby McVeigh/Bentley JonsonYou could pick the front man as anyone of Jonson, McKenzie, Svensson. Similarly at the back perm two from four for the centre halves of Docherty, Shackell, Fleming, Charlton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites