Glenn Foy 0 Posted October 10, 2008 OK, this is clearly quite a heretical viewpoint, but I believe that a packed Carrow Road can sometimes effect the team in a negative way. If we are 1-0 at home, or simply playing poorly, and the crowd start to moan etc, I believe most of the players start to hide and not want the ball. I think the best example of this is best described by the term Social Loafing (I really don''t mean to be pretentious by the way), and its where players will ''hide'' and not want to the receive the ball, just in case they make a mistake. The most obvious player that suffers from this in my opinion is Fotheringham, who tends to hide just in front of the back four (but I can almost empathise with him, due to the reception he gets, especially when coming on against Derby - fans couldn''t wait to get on his back). I think this is where we miss Safri (sorry to go back so far), but he always used to want the ball and was never scared to want the ball and play a pass. I think the negative vibes also effect flair players such as Hoolahan, as when he came to the club he was a player full of thinking and wanting to create chances, and we have seemed to suck out any inventiveness within him, due to the reaction he may get if he plays a poor pass or doesn''t beat his man, when the team is playing badly. Anyone elses opinion on this? can the crowd really work against us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Foy 0 Posted October 10, 2008 [quote user="Glenn Foy"]OK, this is clearly quite a heretical viewpoint, but I believe that a packed Carrow Road can sometimes effect the team in a negative way. If we are 1-0 at home, or simply playing poorly, and the crowd start to moan etc, I believe most of the players start to hide and not want the ball. I think the best example of this is best described by the term Social Loafing (I really don''t mean to be pretentious by the way), and its where players will ''hide'' and not want to the receive the ball, just in case they make a mistake. The most obvious player that suffers from this in my opinion is Fotheringham, who tends to hide just in front of the back four (but I can almost empathise with him, due to the reception he gets, especially when coming on against Derby - fans couldn''t wait to get on his back). I think this is where we miss Safri (sorry to go back so far), but he always used to want the ball and was never scared to want the ball and play a pass. I think the negative vibes also effect flair players such as Hoolahan, as when he came to the club he was a player full of thinking and wanting to create chances, and we have seemed to suck out any inventiveness within him, due to the reaction he may get if he plays a poor pass or doesn''t beat his man, when the team is playing badly. Anyone elses opinion on this? can the crowd really work against us? [/quote]I mean 1-0 down by the way (got to start checking posts before submitting them). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Largey 0 Posted October 10, 2008 Im sure the pressure is greater in front of a fully packed ground (Carrow Road) rather than a 50% full stadium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted October 10, 2008 [quote user="Largey"]Im sure the pressure is greater in front of a fully packed ground (Carrow Road) rather than a 50% full stadium. [/quote] I think that your point is valid, but there is an element of chicken and egg involved. At this point I think its fair to say that the crowd aren''t giving the players stick from the word go (although I agree with what you say about Fozzy), only after they''ve performed badly.These are professional footballers who should be sufficiently motivated to play well enough to avoid that situation occurring.After all,they are going to get much more stick away from home.As I''ve said before,players are quick to bask in the adulation when things go well, so they have to accept stick when they don''t.If they are sufficiently mentally soft to be put off their game by adverse crowd reaction that will still be the case whether the ground is full or half empty,and let''s be honest, the negativity exhibited so far has been pretty mild! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted October 10, 2008 Is it really loyal support? Or, do many just turn up as a matter of routine and in the vain hope that they just might see a decent game of football. (Something to do on a Saturday?)Catchment area is another probable reason.....Nearest and dirtiest - is Portakabin Road.....It started after the Millennium Stadium Final ''experience'', followed by an uneventful ''lull''. Then came the season of the ''fence''.....When 16,000 filled the 3/4 sided Carra. We were playing well and demand for admittance and attendance was at its peak. Then, when the Jarrold eventually opened....those frustrated who couldn''t attend the games - were now in attendance.Champions, then Prem football.....then, it''s now.....Yes we 90%+ fill our ground week in and week out, but is it really through loyalty?.....Or habit?And the 5 year season tickets come to a finale......in May.There are many who sit around me in the Catheter Lounge - who are as incessantly pi$$ed off with our current situation as I am. The majority of folk were avid NCFC board supporters.....now, they want change at the top.....It''s the same talking to fellow fans in the boozers.....But, I do suppose I could be making it all up.[:|] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted October 10, 2008 Catchment area is a good point. It''s often used as a hindrance but on occasions (possibly this occasion) it can be a fortunate we live out on limb. If this Club was part of a multiple team City our attendances imo would have dropped ages ago. Reason being fans would look else where for entertaining high level football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites