Fat Barman 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Once again posts cross in moderation - and I was so pleased with myself for the putdowns! No worries Smudger - now I look stupid.(er?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hornblower 0 Posted January 12, 2007 The omens are not good. Brown has come up through the Sunderland Accadamy and the view up there is based on not just as he is now but how he has developed as a player.Why do we keep buying other peoples rubbish, Grant has got no more of a clue than the last idiot.How on earth is the Club celebrating this signing as a great event. we only get the left overs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted January 12, 2007 [quote user="Fat Barman"]Once again posts cross in moderation - and I was so pleased with myself for the putdowns! No worries Smudger - now I look stupid.(er?).[/quote]I don''t mind the put downs FB... and in this case I asked for it.... Your intial post was there an hour or two before mine while there was a mix up during moderation of the recent posts... [;)] [sn]Take it that you agree with the counter arguement I was trying to make referring to Kevin Doyle though??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Barman 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Doyle was a hell of a find - not many of those around. I''m in the suck-it-and-see camp on Brown. This is Grant''s first real chance to change things, so I''m giving time before judging.The last three signings before Grant have turned out OK (if I''m right they were Earnie, Croft & Dublin), let''s hope Chadwick, Brown + ''?'' slot in well too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bacon Roll 0 Posted January 12, 2007 why can''t we sign a lower teams good players, ie. Billy Sharp etc, or much as we did with Dean Ashton then buy another Championship sides cast off''s! Wat stops us?Money?Manager?Board?Our dimishing reputation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,709 Posted January 12, 2007 I''m glad at least some got what I was talking about re: the Crouch comparison. I kind-of expected that some would go completely overboard denouncing it, but the point was that the main thrust of this thread was that we should trust other fans opinions of anyone we sign. Well Villa fans hated Crouch and his time there was a flop (37 games, 6 goals), proving my point, sometimes players fit at a club, sometimes they don''t. As far as I am concerned we can make our own minds up. Actually, those who think Crouch started his career at QPR are wrong, he started at Spurs and had a loan spell in some backwater before he went to Shepherd''s Bush, and 10 goals in 42 games at QPR is hardly stunning (not sure where your 14 goals in 1 season comes from?). Pompey were actually a poor Championship side who had just avoided relegation when they bought him, not the Prem side of now - but yes he did well there. Then there was the flop at Villa, and us. By the age of 22 we were actually his 6th club. But that is my point entirely: sometimes players fit at a club, sometimes they don''t. I can happily rest my case: that is all I was saying and he proves the point perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevie Wonder 0 Posted January 13, 2007 [quote user="Branston Pickle"]I''m glad at least some got what I was talking about re: the Crouch comparison. I kind-of expected that some would go completely overboard denouncing it, but the point was that the main thrust of this thread was that we should trust other fans opinions of anyone we sign. Well Villa fans hated Crouch and his time there was a flop (37 games, 6 goals), proving my point, sometimes players fit at a club, sometimes they don''t. As far as I am concerned we can make our own minds up. Actually, those who think Crouch started his career at QPR are wrong, he started at Spurs and had a loan spell in some backwater before he went to Shepherd''s Bush, and 10 goals in 42 games at QPR is hardly stunning (not sure where your 14 goals in 1 season comes from?). Pompey were actually a poor Championship side who had just avoided relegation when they bought him, not the Prem side of now - but yes he did well there. Then there was the flop at Villa, and us. By the age of 22 we were actually his 6th club. But that is my point entirely: sometimes players fit at a club, sometimes they don''t. I can happily rest my case: that is all I was saying and he proves the point perfectly.[/quote]This is a good point. Nearly every club will have players that are "cast offs" from other clubs. 2 of our best players of recent times in Hux & Iwan had not settled or done the business at previous clubs. Crouch was ridiculed during his time at Villa - this of course does not mean that Brown will be playing for England in a couple of years! He may well turn out to be a poor player but we should give him time to show what he can or can''t do and this means he should be judged over more than just a couple of games. Remember Iwan was rubbish during his first year here and equally Keith Scott scored on his first 2 games for us.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheded 0 Posted January 13, 2007 [quote user="cityangel"]Welcome Chris Brown, enjoy your first game and ignore the moaners on here who havent seen you play yet!!Yes footballers do read these message boards!!![/quote]If they do Angel , then its all part of the initiation process ! like ... if he goes jelly after reading all the stuff about him , he`s just not got the backbone to prove himself , am I right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
