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I guess in the dark you’ll always get things like the biscuits crumpled into the ground accidentally. But would always take bottles and bags etc with me. Will say though, most places there isn’t anywhere to throw your rubbish. One of the cinemas near me has a chap on the door at the end with a bin bag, but most there isn’t - not an excuse but I’m sure it would be a bit tidier if there were more receptacles. Separately, I saw him in this on Saturday night - had forgotten/not known he does “real” theatre too and has a pretty good voice. Jack and the beanstalk a bit of a strange panto though!

Do you understand how the monarchy works?

Wasn’t van gaal playing 3/5 at the back at Man Utd before then? The manager of my Sunday league side at the time was a Man Utd fan and tried to get us playing it…

Did the trip to Istanbul a month or two ago. Enjoyed it. Slightly underwhelmed with the Hagia Sophia (as it’s now a functioning mosque again, quite a lot of it was off limits, and it wasn’t as impressive inside as the blue mosque). The Topkapi palace was better. Stayed five days in sultanahmet and then four further out in the more modern shopping areas plus a day on the Asian side - very friendly city, decent food, good weather. The new airport is also massive. Not sure I’d rush back but glad to have been. Was supposed to be in Tel Aviv at the start of December but that’s obviously not happening right now.

Really? If we hired a new manager tomorrow, still in October, six points off the playoffs, and we finished 13th, would you really be sat there saying the new guy’s done a good job, exactly what we needed? Let’s be realistic… if that happened, there’d already be a large number of calls for him to go over the summer.

Atrocious run of form but I’m not sure mid table is really an aspiration to be settled for when we’re two wins away from the playoffs and less than three wins off third place…

Strangely I got the subs quicker than some of the first team, although I did initially get the wrong JJ…. JS also had me confused as I was trying to think of a right back… SC did play a bit in midfield for us I think. Presumably 433 or a diamond midfield with PM at the top. CF at right back presumably.

Why did they go with the spurs badge for 10p?

Afghanistan really the example you want to use?

But none of that is caused by someone having a sex change. Those things are caused by other wider societal issues and views , and the stance of the employer - people also get sacked for comments on race, gender/misogyny, disabilities, sexuality etc etc. The prime minister’s comment wasn’t “let people do, believe, and say what they want, but that works both ways”. That would have been fair enough.

Of course they should have that right. Anyone should have the right to insist whatever they want - as long as it isn’t abusive or violent. Struggling also with your second para. What is the negative affect on ‘you’ here - it isn’t hate speech, it isn’t violent. It is an opinion that hypothetical ‘you’ is a terrible bigot, an opinion anyone should have the right to hold. If your hypothetical neighbour starts harassing you on your doorstep, I absolutely agree with you. But like I said previously - that isn’t an issue about men being men or women being women etc…

Ah, all becomes clear. You don’t think people should have the right to insist things you don’t agree with. I don’t usually like to use the term snowflakes, but…

The point is that they are different questions. Women and men don’t have separate changing rooms purely because they are different genders. It’s for safety. Most sexual assaults are men on women. Women in a changing room full of men is an obvious safety issue. But the PM wasn’t talking about safety concerns, he was talking about people not having to accept other people’s choices. Perhaps stretching my earlier curtain analogy a little too far, if my neighbour puts up bright red curtains, it is their choice and doesn’t affect me. If they take those bright red curtains down and start using them to strangle passers by, that does affect me. The PM would seemingly be talking about banning people from choosing bright red curtains - which isn’t really the issue.

Not really. The points you’ve summarised are ones of safety (and, in the case of sport, fairness). They aren’t anything to do with whether biological men should be able to identify as female (or vice versa) or go through a sex change procedure etc. I couldn’t care less if the guy next to me in the changing room is straight or gay - as long as he doesn’t try to assault me. I also couldn’t care less if he was born a biological woman but is now identifying as a man as long as he doesn’t try to assault me either. Why on earth would I? Our prime minister has apparently decided whether people should be required to ‘identify’ as their biological birth gender is an issue politicians need to get involved in. I wonder whether his next campaign announcement will be about my neighbours’ curtain choices - another example of somebody else’s personal choice which simply doesn’t affect me or anyone else (even if I wouldn’t put them up in my own front room).

Surely they are different points. I have been to many a bar/club where the toilets are not male and female specific. People have concerns about that, but the concerns aren’t about men identifying as men or otherwise.

Why don’t you summarise it for me.

People worry about test matches, but my guess is that one day 50 over games will be the first to become redundant.

I haven’t bothered reading the rest of this thread but my guess is there is no sensible response to this.

You’re going to have to explain this one to me. It took hundreds of years of scientific enquiry to figure out men are men and women are women? Were they all woke and lacking in common sense before and during those investigations?

The government response says (p163 of below) average speeds on these areas was in the low 20s anyway - presumably even if it’s 30, you don’t drive at 30 the whole way - rush hour traffic, slow down when road narrows or if children are around, stop start at traffic lights/crossings, stuck behind cyclists etc. They reckon 3 per cent increase in journey times outside of cities, or 5 percent increase in city centres - so for a 2 mile trip solely in a 30 zone it would add half a minute… so these findings say anyway. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5bf2ba08ed915d1830158998/20mph-technical-report.pdf

Wasn’t the ref Simon Hooper? Sky sports suggests Oli is Oli Kohout, the VAR Hub Operations executive, although another one of their articles suggests fourth official Michael Oliver.

I’ve got an electric car (not a Tesla), insurance renewed last month - barely noticed the difference.

GB News… what a bunch of leftie snowflakes…

Yeah, should scrap anything below 60 in any location that doesn’t have a tram.

Fair point actually about those in remote areas and lack of mobile signal - although surely the solution there is to boost signal in those areas. I’ve not had a landline phone at any place I’ve lived in since moving out of my parents’ house, so am probably not the person to comment… Although my grandparents, all in their 80s, video call me from their iPad.