Penalties and Yellow Cards

[Barclay hero 0]

Over the last few days there has been a lot of rubbish written about the Chris Martin-conceded penalty, and if it was a penalty then Martin should have been booked. Unfortunately this has shown a lot of posters (similarly to a lot of pundits) lack of knowledge of the laws of the game of football.

The law states

A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any

of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be

careless, reckless or using excessive force:

• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent

• trips or attempts to trip an opponent

• jumps at an opponent

• charges an opponent

• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent

• pushes an opponent

• tackles an opponent

Was Martin guilty of a careless or reckless challenge? If the answer if YES (and it looked a fairly careless challenge to me) then a direct free kick is awarded. If the offence is committed within the penalty area, then the direct free kick is taken from the penalty mark, regardless of where the ball is PROVIDING the ball is in play (which it was)

Nothing in the law says about ''getting the ball first'' - thats a commentators made up rule, although getting the ball first CAN be an indicator that the tackle/trip wasnt careless or reckless

Likewise yellow cards (or Cautions) are issued for the following:

A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the

following seven offences:

• unsporting behaviour

• dissent by word or action

• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game

• delaying the restart of play

• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner

kick, free kick or throw-in

• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission

• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission

Martin''s foul didnt really fit in with these - he hadnt committed repeated fouls, it wasnt a particularly unsporting foul (eg he didnt wrestle a player to the ground)

Thats why he wasnt booked.

So it WAS a pen - at least in the linesmans view and the ref is entitled to change his mind if he feels the linesman had a better view (remember the penalty that was awarded to Ipswich and then turned into a free kick to us?) and it wasnt a yellow card offence

I agree that the ref had a crap game and missed some key decisions - not least the push on Holt which would have given us a pen - but the officials got that one right

[barclay seats 4849 0]

You mean in your opinion

[William Darby 0]

When you did your copy n'' paste you missed this important bit off the Football League Websitetackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball

[Barclay hero 0]

Yes, Barclay Seats - but that is what a lot of the laws are about.  Opinion followed by a course of actions

With regards to the cut and paste that actually came from the FIFA Laws of the game leaflet (which is issued to all referees).  Not seen the football league site, these will be recommendations but obviously that has a bearing on football league games.  Fair enough comment

[0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0]

[quote user="Barclay hero"]

Yes, Barclay Seats - but that is what a lot of the laws are about.  Opinion followed by a course of actions

With regards to the cut and paste that actually came from the FIFA Laws of the game leaflet (which is issued to all referees).  Not seen the football league site, these will be recommendations but obviously that has a bearing on football league games.  Fair enough comment

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Laws are fact. Many referees think they are bigger than the game and thats where the problem lies in not applying the laws. The other problem is inconsistency in refereeing what is a red card one game isn''t even a foul  in the next.

[Scooby 0]

[quote user="Barclay hero"]Over the last few days there has been a lot of rubbish written about the Chris Martin-conceded penalty, and if it was a penalty then Martin should have been booked. Unfortunately this has shown a lot of posters (similarly to a lot of pundits) lack of knowledge of the laws of the game of football. The law states A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force: • kicks or attempts to kick an opponent • trips or attempts to trip an opponent • jumps at an opponent • charges an opponent • strikes or attempts to strike an opponent • pushes an opponent • tackles an opponent Was Martin guilty of a careless or reckless challenge? If the answer if YES (and it looked a fairly careless challenge to me) then a direct free kick is awarded. If the offence is committed within the penalty area, then the direct free kick is taken from the penalty mark, regardless of where the ball is PROVIDING the ball is in play (which it was) Nothing in the law says about ''getting the ball first'' - thats a commentators made up rule, although getting the ball first CAN be an indicator that the tackle/trip wasnt careless or reckless Likewise yellow cards (or Cautions) are issued for the following: A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the following seven offences: • unsporting behaviour • dissent by word or action • persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game • delaying the restart of play • failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner kick, free kick or throw-in • entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission • deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission Martin''s foul didnt really fit in with these - he hadnt committed repeated fouls, it wasnt a particularly unsporting foul (eg he didnt wrestle a player to the ground) Thats why he wasnt booked. So it WAS a pen - at least in the linesmans view and the ref is entitled to change his mind if he feels the linesman had a better view (remember the penalty that was awarded to Ipswich and then turned into a free kick to us?) and it wasnt a yellow card offence I agree that the ref had a crap game and missed some key decisions - not least the push on Holt which would have given us a pen - but the officials got that one right[/quote]

I''m sorry mate but this really does rate as a pathetic post. How you manage to arrive at that conclusion is astounding. A careless challenge??? Which part of he touched the ball first don''t you understand?  It was a fair challenge, contact was made with the ball (which the ref indicated he saw) NO PENALTY.......simples.

[paul moy 235]

The fact is that Martin''s tackle was ''reckless'' in that he risked giving away a penalty when the opponent was heading out of the box anyway and attacking danger from the opponent was deminishing.  ''Reckless'' with respect to the laws of football is a different thing altogether.