JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 2008/09 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Shrewsbury Town Johnstone''s Paint Trophy 3 0 7 1 2 0 8 10 1 0 Shrewsbury Town English Carling Cup 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 Shrewsbury Town English FA Cup 1 0 1 0 1 1 4 4 0 0 Shrewsbury Town English League Two 46 0 20 4 135 57 135 116 12 0 2008/09 Season Totals 51 0 28 5 139 58 148 130 14 0 2007/08 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Nottingham Forest English League One 22 10 3 4 35 12 46 36 4 1 Blackpool English League Championship 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Nottingham Forest English FA Cup 1 0 0 0 1 1 3 2 1 0 2007/08 Season Totals 23 14 3 4 37 13 49 38 5 1 2006/07 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Nottingham Forest English FA Cup 4 1 1 0 6 2 8 6 0 0 Nottingham Forest English League One 34 12 14 5 52 28 42 47 8 0 Nottingham Forest English Carling Cup 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Nottingham Forest Johnstone''s Paint Trophy 3 0 3 0 3 2 2 4 0 0 2006/07 Season Totals 41 14 18 5 61 32 52 57 8 0 2005/06 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Rochdale Johnstone''s Paint Trophy 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rochdale English Carling Cup 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Nottingham Forest English League One 17 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 Rochdale English FA Cup 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rochdale English League Two 21 0 14 0 0 0 0 0 7 1 2005/06 Season Totals 41 1 19 0 0 0 0 0 11 1 2004/05 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Rochdale English League Two 41 0 17 0 0 0 0 0 14 0 Rochdale English FA Cup 3 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Rochdale English Carling Cup 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Rochdale Johnstone''s Paint Trophy 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2004/05 Season Totals 46 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 16 0 2003/04 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Sheffield Wednesday Johnstone''s Paint Trophy 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Sheffield Wednesday English Carling Cup 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sheffield Wednesday English League One 9 8 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 1 Sheffield Wednesday English FA Cup 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rochdale English League Two 14 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 2003/04 Season Totals 26 11 6 0 0 0 0 0 10 1 2002/03 Statistics TEAM Competition GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC Sheffield Wednesday English League Championship 3 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 All I keep seeing is people using Wikipedia to criticise Grant Holt''s career goalscoring record. So I invite the critics to argue over some more detailed and very well sourced stats, which show him actually scoring many goals for Rochdale and showing his subs appearances, as well as his cup goals.If you are going to place a player under scrutiny then at least do it properly.Lets av it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 Right, ignore that.... I will do something readable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 2002/03 (Sheffield Wednesday)Games Started: 3Games Sub: 4Goals: 12003/04 (Sheffield Wednesday)Games Started: 26Games Sub: 11Goals: 62004/05 (Rochdale)Games Started: 46Games Sub: 0Goals: 242005/06 (Rochdale)Games Started: 41Games Sub: 1Goals: 192006/07 (Nottm Forest)Games Started: 41Games Sub: 14Goals: 182007/08 (Nottm Forest)Games Started: 23Games Sub: 14Goals: 32008/09 (Shrewsbury Town)Games Started: 51Games Sub: 0Goals Scored: 28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 TOTAL CAREER STARTS: 231TOTAL CAREER SUB: 44TOTAL CAREER GOALS: 99Come on then, lets have you pick apart that record! Also... sets him up nicely for his 100th career goal being his first goal for Norwich! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuglestad 0 Posted July 25, 2009 I''ll tentatively say well done Mr Velasco, on posting something based on evidence, and correcting that pesky Wikipedia. Holt looks like a great signing, scores when he gets regular games. Can we not start to boo him if he doesn''t score in the first five games though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLo 0 Posted July 25, 2009 [quote user="JuanVelasco"]TOTAL CAREER STARTS: 231TOTAL CAREER SUB: 44TOTAL CAREER GOALS: 99Come on then, lets have you pick apart that record! Also... sets him up nicely for his 100th career goal being his first goal for Norwich![/quote]Let''s hope he doesn''t stumble trying to get to that 100th goal!! Remember Cureton?? Has he actually got to that landmark yet (can''t remember how many...was it 200??) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted July 25, 2009 [quote user="Fuglestad"]I''ll tentatively say well done Mr Velasco, on posting something based on evidence, and correcting that pesky Wikipedia. Holt looks like a great signing, scores when he gets regular games. Can we not start to boo him if he doesn''t score in the first five games though?[/quote] I''m booing him if he doesn''t score in the first five minutes against the Us [:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC_Shaun 0 Posted July 25, 2009 [quote user="JuanVelasco"]TOTAL CAREER STARTS: 231 TOTAL CAREER SUB: 44 TOTAL CAREER GOALS: 99 Come on then, lets have you pick apart that record! Also... sets him up nicely for his 100th career goal being his first goal for Norwich![/quote] No offence mate. But if that''s refering to me - I think you''ll find I was questioning the wikipedia stats rather than outright criticising him because of it. I was asking the people who are happy with the signing to explain their reasons as I was hoping to be pleasantly suprised - and I was.So no, I won''t try to ''pick that record apart''. I never wanted to. [^o)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted July 25, 2009 That is actually much better than i thought form some of the impressions some people give on him, and from what i have seen/heard of him, not perfect, but should do well (doesn''t seem to get injured much, apart from that 1 season at forrest from the look of the appearances there) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tookie140 0 Posted July 25, 2009 Anyone try Soccerbase League and cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted July 25, 2009 As anybody can alter Wiki, I have noticed some players'' goals are shown as just league goals, some are league and cup. Wiki in that case can be misleading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 NCFC_Shaun, it was aimed at about 10-15 people, but don''t let your insecurities get in the way of a good argument. I hadn''t even heard of you until you posted on this thread, but if you want to have a go then go for it. I can argue all night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 25, 2009 "Anyone try Soccerbase"Hi Tookie, the stats are gave do include League and Cup. He is on 99 league and cup goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 25, 2009 He might be on 98 or he might be on 99, depends if Forest''s 2nd goal at Blackpool on 8th August 2006 was his or in fact Jack Lester''s. [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC_Shaun 0 Posted July 25, 2009 [quote user="JuanVelasco"]NCFC_Shaun, it was aimed at about 10-15 people, but don''t let your insecurities get in the way of a good argument. I hadn''t even heard of you until you posted on this thread, but if you want to have a go then go for it. I can argue all night.[/quote]Sorry. I didn''t mean to start an argument. I thought that was aimed at me as I had posted a thread not long before you made this about why I am unconvinced about the Holt signing - and then criticised him from the game today. Didn''t mean to start an argument for the sake of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essexshrew 0 Posted July 27, 2009 [quote user="CashCasinoCrane"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]TOTAL CAREER STARTS: 231 TOTAL CAREER SUB: 44 TOTAL CAREER GOALS: 99 Come on then, lets have you pick apart that record! Also... sets him up nicely for his 100th career goal being his first goal for Norwich![/quote]Let''s hope he doesn''t stumble trying to get to that 100th goal!! Remember Cureton?? Has he actually got to that landmark yet (can''t remember how many...was it 200??)[/quote] don''t think he is going to stumble as he scored his 100th goal in the last league game of the season. stats on soccerbase show 100 goalshttp://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=17954 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 27, 2009 The Barrow stats must be wrong, no league appearances in two years?? The professional goals on there total 98. In terms of overall career goals he must be well over 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 28, 2009 http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=12830&cc=5739This is the source I used which shows him on 99 goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
