Creative Midfielder

Unbelievable, well over a year on and with the bill standing at £28 billion+ and yet we still haven't got a IT system that delivers the numbers reliably. Just who are the clowns that have been paid billions to deliver this software shambles when most 15 year olds could knock them up a working system orn their home PC (or maybe phone in the case of 15 yr olds 😀)

I think you need to be a little more subtle, your lies are too obvious and stupid to achieve that - an irritant is the most you've ever achieved, along with confirming what we thought about of the stupidity of Brexiteers all along................oh, and demonstrating to the forum that you're a very sad and pathetic individual.

I think that might be a bit of a forlorn hope, which is not for a minute to suggest that all Brexit voters were as stupid and dishonest as Swindon but its pretty obvious that a good many were. After all even on here we have another couple. @Jools and @paul moy, who for a long while were very akin to Swindon in their posting (although they have since gone very quiet) plus a few others that certainly aren't as stupid as Swindon but definitely have issues around honesty., to put it politely.

Just more lies - you really do deserve all the abuse you get on here.........and then some!! And incredibly stupid, if you actually believed anyone would be taken in by your very obvious lies.

We've all got it in for you because you keep posting lies............and then running away.........only to come back to post more lies. Try posting something vaguely reasonable, something that, if someone disagrees, you could actually justify/discuss with a few actual sentences of your reasonsing and opinions, ideally with a few real facts thrown in to support your point of view. I don't know if you are daft enough to think your one liners are clever, but they really are not. There is a very old saying in IT, 'GIGO' Garbage In, Garbage Out'. I guess something similar applies applies to social media, if you continually post provocative tripe then you really shouldn't expect any friendly or respectful responses.

I'm pretty sure they didn't do any modelling because they knew they wouldn't like the results and of course it would have caused them great difficulty if the results ever became public. Of course in the end this is yet another case of Johnson's recklessness and incompetence but in this instance he is far from alone - I dare say you remember in the early days of Brexit when the dunce David Davis was still Brexit Minister and he stood up and lied to the HoC that his department had conducted detailed impact assessments on, I think from memory, 64 different market sectors but refused to reveal the results. When a Select Committee eventually forced him to hand over the 'assessments' they turned out to be just a folder full of newspaper clippings - even the Tory MPs were embarrassed by that level of stupidity (and deceit) by one of their ministers. Then, much more recently, we have had the equally stupid Liz Truss who in true Johnsonian mode negotiated a series of ‘really great’ deals, all of which, now they are being examined in detail, turn out to be not great deals at all – well not for the UK anyway but Australia, New Zealand and Japan are all delighted that the UK’s desperation for a deal has enabled them to strike deals that are highly favourable to them and lousy for the UK, especially UK farmers.

........yes, and now what about Paul Moy's fish??

I think its very possible that a future government will try and negotiate closer links, and its possible that they will succeed to a limited extent. But I don't think there is any chance that they will be able to reverse the damage that is being inflicted on our economy - you mention supply chains being re-routed which is certainly already well underway and I suspect will increase further in the next two or three years. We also know of large numbers of UK firms setiing up distribution hubs in the EU as it is no longer feasible to distribute goods directly from the UK, that also will almost certainly continue to increase. Even if the links are 'tweaked' a bit, once the changed supply and distribution chains are well established, which they will be, there will be absolutely no benefit to businesses to disturb them again - they will stick with what they have especially as there will be no guarantee whatsoever that the next UK government along won't turn everything on its head again.

Whilst I guess this is essentially good news, it still appears that a third of voters are so 'away with the fairies' that they have absolutely no idea what is happening all around them - makes you wonder just what it will take for the penny to drop. I'm hoping that a combination of rising prices with rising taxes might just do the trick.

Is that the Tory Campaign HQ's official line, or are you just doing a bit of unpaid weekend overtime?

Further proof that Angela Rayner was right and that most Tory MPs are quite literally scumbags. However I also wonder, once again, where the hell is the opposition??? I know the Government has a big majority but clearly with this feeble opposition they don't even need that - 265 MPs is all it takes apparantly. So I would blame those who didn't vote at all just as much as the scumbags that did.

😂 No wonder you are so often accused of lying. What on earth is the point of trotting out nonsense like that, when we've all seen you do it????

Aren't you shooting the messenger here?? Good Law Project are the very opposite of Johnson in that they are always very sure of their facts before they say anything, and from memory I think they have won every time they've ended up in court with the Government. You may not like the message but it is unquestionably true however unpalatable you find it.

Really surprised @SwindonCanary didn't get round to posting that - he's forever posting links to the Express, I suppose the dog must have eaten it this morning 😂

Well, there you go then. Must admit I hadn't looked at the NHS site but my understanding was that the rollout would be based on flu jab in one arm and Covid booster in the other which is exactly what happened when I took my Mum to her appointment three or so weeks ago. So it seemed an obvious question to ask when I got my text - and having now just checked when I had jab 2 it turns out that I was, through luck rather good judgement, bang on time. However there clearly are regional variations - not in the rules but in the delivery. As I said my sister in Norfolk should have been ahead of me and my wife throughout the process but in practice has always been behind us, even though we all booked the first jab as soon as we received our offers. I suspect that going via the GP (certainly in our case) speeded things up as it was all very well organised - in the early days when the vaccine supply was rather hit and miss, they were completely on top of when they were getting vaccine and very quickly organised things to blitz as many as they could by pulling all the doctors in on a Saturday when they should have been having a day off. You may have noticed that I'm a tad cynical (about many things) nowadays, but I was genuinely impressed by what they set up and the numbers they got through - appointments to the minute and people going through at a rate of knots without ever going anywhere near anybody else other than the doctor or nurse that jabbed you. Sadly, as I also pointed out with respect to the 'queue' - I read this morning that uptake of the booster offers is only around 50% of the double vaccinated people eligible. Doesn't make any sense to me but then that is true of so many aspects of this country nowadays 🙄

That little bio suggests he had an education which comes as a bit of a surprise I must say.

As far as I as I can tell there is no queue - that seems to be part of the problem. Take up of the booster seems to be very patchy, presumably because so many have lapped up Johnson's nonsense that it is all over and don't see the need, or perhaps the urgency, to have one. Certainly of the people I know of locally (most of similar age) they've all either had the booster or are booked for the next few days. Don't know why there are regional variations but it seems clear that there are - my sister is extremely vulnerable, lives in Norfolk and has been several weeks behind us at every stage of the vaccination programme this year.

Here you can if your GP surgery is on the ball - I got a text saying I could have a flu jab so I rang the surgery to book a flu jab and asked if I could have a Covid booster at the same time, they said yes. So I asked if my wife could have both at the same time as well, they said yes. So last Saturday we both went in, got a jab in each arm and were back out again in under 3 minutes. Superbly well organised as it is always - as per earlier posts - if the government and the private sector would get the hell out of the way and let the NHS do the job that only they really understand then we would all be in a much better state.

Excellent list lo which I would add: .............Start paying doctors & nurses properly - even with huge increases in recruitment schemes and training new medical staff we are going to struggle to retain the number of doctors and nurses we still have in the NHS, never mind start filling the huge gaps without a significant uplift to current NHS salaries. ..............Take social care seriously and put serious money into that (I know you also said that @sonyc but thought it needed its own bullet point) plus integrating it or at least aligning it to the NHS in a far more effectively than we have currently. ..............Remove the private sector from all involvement in the NHS - we have seen for many years the serious failures to deliver the services they are contracted to deliver, the huge costs involved for things that the NHS could deliver itself far more effectively and the hugely bureaucratic and costly contracting process that bogs down NHS management. ................Reform the Trusts to introduce some genuine local accountability.

😂🤣😂 The sort of Torygraph b*ll*cks that Johnson would be proud of - they, like you, must be getting absolutely desperate to distract from the shambles of Brexit Britain to even attempt to peddle tripe like that 😂🤣😂

You are clearly getting more desperate and even more stupid - didn't think that was possible but there you go, proving me wrong again The Government is not 'trying' to do either of those things - the Government's incompetence and negligence has created shortages all over our economy and only after the shortages became crises did Johnson dream up his narrative for the simple minded that this was actually part of a government policy to increase wages but somehow, he forgot to mention it until he noticed that nobody could buy any petrol. In actual fact the wage rises are pretty patchy but in the long term are a good thing but they will lead directly to us all paying more and not less for the things we buy - I would have thought even you would be capable of grasping that. I think it is also worth pointing out that Johnson's oven ready deal deliberately introduced additional overheads and delays to businesses which will also lead inevitably to price rises as it is impossible for businesses to simply absorb these additional costs without passing at least some ontot customers. Johnson knew this when he signed the deal but as usual he lied about it. The only way that wages can go up and prices down is to have a huge boost in productively and yet the UK's record on productively relative to our European competitors is very poor indeed and has been for many years - Johnson's government, and their Tory predecessors have known about this issue for the last ten years and done absolutely nothing about it, so you are, as usual, talking total cr@p.

That chimes pretty much with what my daughter says about the patients she has been treating recently.

Yes, but that was far from their only mistake - we were weeks, or months in some cases, later than most European countries in vaccinating the younger age group, possibly a bigger mistake. Plus of course we removed the final restrictions at a point when case numbers were dropping quite quickly but still at a ridiculously high level - Johnson said repeatedly throughout the last lockdown that the decisions on unlocking would be driven by 'data not dates' but in the end, as we always knew he would, he ignored the data and went with the dates. That decision, as @Van wink said the other day, could have been a calculated gamble to try and get the peak(s) out of the way before the onset of winter. Personally, I don't think there was any calculation involved - as with so many of Johnson's decisions on the pandemic response, he ducked a difficult decision and just hoped it would all somehow work out alright and of course it didn't this time, just as it didn't on the earlier occasions.

I think that is very debateable, and its certainly no more stupid than pretending that there is nothing we can do to improve the current situation which appears to be the Government's current (failing) strategy. Lockdown is only the most severe option, out of a number of possible options we could introduce to reduce the spread.

There are several things in there I agree with; waiting lists were increasing pre-2019 although you are wrong to say many millions were denied treatment in 2019, the waiting list was only just over half a million in 2019 and the wait times were only a small fraction of what they are now. That was a result of underfunding as you suggest except it is not a decades old problem but a decade old problem - a decade of Tory austerity which hit the NHS as it hit all public services. Of course you could always, at any point in time, argue a very reasonable case that the NHS requires more funds than it is receiving (or did receive) but there is a very clear dividing line between the level of funding received by the NHS between the previous Labour administration and the Tory one that followed. Even if we had a government that is prepared to invest what is needed to resolve these problems (and it is pretty clear that this government isn't) that would still mean only a very gradual improvement could be achieved and would therefore need to be sustained for many years to even return back to roughly where we were 10 years ago, never mind the improvements we need in mental health care, cancer treatment etc, and of course social care which is both another issue in its own right as well as a factor in clogging up the NHS. So I completely disagree with your statement 'But unless we’re at a point where people can’t get emergency life saving treatment, then the answer isn’t lockdowns and restrictions' because when you say 'can't get emergency life saving treatment' I presume you are only including those in pretty immediate danger of dying as 'emergencies'. But that definition ignores other categories of patients whose demise is probably still some months away and quite preventable if they receive prompt life saving treatment but for whom a delay is effectively a death sentence - some aggressive forms of cancer are the obvious example but they don't meet your (or the NHS's) definition of an emergency. So we need to invest properly in health and social care - the need is a given but in reality it isn't going to happen in the foreseeable future and even if by some miracle it were to start tomorrow it wouldn't have a significant impact on the rapidly approaching crisis this winter, so IMO the only thing we can do to assist the NHS get through this winter is to take some measures to reduce the load that Covid is placing on our hospitals. As you will no doubt have seen this morning, many in the NHS are now openly saying the same thing.