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[quote user="Ches right hand man "][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Ches right hand man "]Can we end this thread? Clearly the majority want him and the minority the op doesn''t. [/quote]If you read this thread and concluded that I''m the only person with doubts then you need to visit this website: http://www.starfall.com/Che Guevara was a totalitarian fascist with the blood of his own people on his hands, by the way. [/quote]So we should bend over backwards for uncle sam? Millions are dying in the middle east over oil. Getting back to topic only wiz and other trolls seem against which category are you? [/quote]Against Quag or Che Guevara? Definitely against Guevara. I''ve stated quite clearly at least twice in this thread that I will trust Hughtons judgement but am surprised at the figures stated for a player who would be a bit of a risk. I also said that despite my reservations, if he signs I will just look forward to watching him play in the yellow and green. I''m not entirely against the idea, in fact I''ve never really heard of him, but that''s partly the point. I suspect he will be a great player, but that doesn''t mean that spending such a huge chunk of the budget doesn''t concern me. As for Che Guevara. He sentenced up to 2000 people to death by firing squad without trial, and then embarked on something called ''population consolidation'', establishing a concentration camp where he would send homosexuals, anybody who spoke out against the regime, academics, and anybody else that he considered undesirable.He was also very outspoken about what he perceived as the inferior black race and considered lighter skinned people to be superior genetically.Not only did he share a fair bit in common with Adolf Hitler, he also shares a fair bit in common with Islamists as he would call for martydom and his dream was tobe killed in battle. He banned rock music too (yeah, freedom?!!). I suppose he was fine if you were not homosexual, dark skinned,  a fan of rock music, or in any way adverse to being controlled to the point where you would face a firingsquad for possessing a different opinion to those in control of your government. 

[quote user="Ches right hand man "]Can we end this thread? Clearly the majority want him and the minority the op doesn''t. [/quote]If you read this thread and concluded that I''m the only person with doubts then you need to visit this website: http://www.starfall.com/Che Guevara was a totalitarian fascist with the blood of his own people on his hands, by the way. 

Hooper, because he wants to play for us, he can speak English, and I can spell his name. 

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]I think this is very exciting. We haven''t had a Drazen Muzinic-style signing - ie risking loads of money on a highly-touted multi-capped international with no sell-on value who has never played club football outside his native country and may have trouble assimilating himself into English culture - since, well, Drazen Muzinic![/quote]LOL :)

[quote user="Jack Flash"]Just worth reminding ourselves that Van Persie will be 30 yrs old in less than 3 weeks time![/quote]Van Persie was Arsenals top scorer for four years out of five, Premier League golden boot winner, PFA Players player of the year, PFA fans player of the year, two time Arsenal player of the year, and a world cup runner up having scored over 30 international goals. He is widely considered to be one of the best strikers in the world and has scored more goals for Holland than Marco Van Basten. To use his age when discussing whether we should sign a player that most of us had never heard of three weeks ago who for a while was a squad player for Italy and has never scored 15 goals in Seria A is both pointless and completely futile. The two are just not in the same league. 

[quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="lincoln canary"]How old is robin van persie?[/quote]29. How many times has Fabio Quagliarella scored 30 goals in a season? [/quote] The point was the age. Nothing really in it. And anyway he might not have scored 30 goals a season but he''s less than a 1/3 of the van persie fee. So all in all the deal sounds about right.[/quote]I''m not completely against the idea of signing him, not even for the huge fee, just taken me by surprise. I guess Hughton just feels that an experienced head or two is needed. Our squad is one of the youngest in the league, and we have just lost a big personality from the dressing room. But that would only make sense if he speaks English as otherwise he will struggle with the banter.... The only player that I can think of who is likely to be able to speak Italian is Javier Garrido, wonder whether that will cause him problems and make it hard for him to settle. He''d have to learn some English! [/quote] Yeah I guess that''s a big difference. Van persie was obviously fluent with English language and culture so signing him was less of a risk in that regard. At 30 he may well struggle to learn a new language, however conversely he may see it as an ideal opportunity to be bilingual and improve his chances of football after retirement.[/quote] *improve his chances of employment after football![/quote]I doubt he needs to worry too much about finding employment after football. 

[quote user="Phillip J Fry"][quote user="ReadingCanary"]Neville clearly does his homework before every game and his punditry is world class. Most of the Sky Team are decent but even they have the odd bad apple. [/quote]What is the point of Jamie Redknapp? He is one of the worst pundits on TV. Almost as bad as Lawrenson[/quote]The purpose of Jamie Redknapp is to get more girls to watch football because, due to some sort of freak genetics, he was somehow born extremely handsome. His mum must be a stunner because his dad sure isn''t. 

[quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="lincoln canary"]How old is robin van persie?[/quote]29. How many times has Fabio Quagliarella scored 30 goals in a season? [/quote] The point was the age. Nothing really in it. And anyway he might not have scored 30 goals a season but he''s less than a 1/3 of the van persie fee. So all in all the deal sounds about right.[/quote]I''m not completely against the idea of signing him, not even for the huge fee, just taken me by surprise. I guess Hughton just feels that an experienced head or two is needed. Our squad is one of the youngest in the league, and we have just lost a big personality from the dressing room. But that would only make sense if he speaks English as otherwise he will struggle with the banter.... The only player that I can think of who is likely to be able to speak Italian is Javier Garrido, wonder whether that will cause him problems and make it hard for him to settle. He''d have to learn some English! 

[quote user="ReadingCanary"]Neville clearly does his homework before every game and his punditry is world class. Most of the Sky Team are decent but even they have the odd bad apple. [/quote]Neville is the best. I hated him as a player but fair play to him, he really knows his stuff. So much so that he should really think about getting into management! 

Great news. We now have some Premier League games on BT Vision, some FA Cup games on BBC, and I don''t have to give Murdoch a penny. 

"during which the manager of Norwich showed off all his dialectic"This bit is hilarious, particularly as Hughton says ten words for every one that is necessary in press conferences. Can just imagine Hughton showing off his vocabulary. I wonder whether it had to go through a translator though, would quite like to know whether Quag speaks English. 

[quote user="paul moy"][quote user="ReadingCanary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"]IMO some fans hang on to every single word that comes out of the club. And take it as gospel truth for ever more.  Through a previous manager we were told this ''young and hungry'' line regularly spun like a mantra.  Reality is, it''s not necessarily applicable any more.  As Hughton is very well aware I should imagine, quality costs even at this earth shattering grand old age of 30.[/quote]Well if age is no issue and everybody gets so excited by Italians then we could of signed Fabrizio Miccoli on a free transfer. The problem isn''t the age, the problem is the extremely high fee. [/quote]Surely if he scores 10 goals.Which keeps us in the league..We then earn the TV Money next year from staying up, it''s a very good investment?[/quote]I would have used virtually the same argument for not selling Holt. We should never have sold him until we had an adequate, proven in the Prem replacement. Crazy !!!!  We sell Holt for 2m or so and pay 8m for more or less the same, potentially, but nobody knows until he plays, so he could flop. Holt should have been kept at least until January for that reason. [/quote]I would have said the same thing about Holt, but I''ve bit my tongue because he was clearly unhappy here. I think it was unwise to let him go before a replacement was signed, just in case, but despite still being in my opinion capable of playing at this level...... I''d hate to think of him being unhappy. The video that he made for The Sun was a bit heartbreaking, could see that he wasn''t having the best of times and he has done plenty enough for this club already. 

[quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Firstly comparisions to players such as Defoe, Hooper, Bent etc. are silly, Quagliarella doesn''t play as a striker sitting on the last defenders shoulder and isn''t a player who ''comes alive in the box''. Norwich brought RvW in for that reason and signing another player like that would be foolish as they would end up trying to be in the same place as each other. It''s like when Becchio and Holt played together, they both tried to make the same runs or occupy the same area of the pitch. Quagliarealla plays deeper and is as happy creating goals as scoring them and would compliment a striker like Rvw, rather than being direct competition to him. Also, for me, he has the skill that is almost priceless and Norwich have been missing for a while, the ability to be a match winner all on his own. Quagliarella is a player who can create something from absolutely nothing, and as we saw last season Norwich can often struggle for that little piece of inspiration. The prices being talked about are high for a player of 30 years old, but his wages wouldn''t be out of Norwich''s range (probably around £40k a week, when you consider Olsson was on around £37k a week at Blackburn it gives you a little perspective). Also I imagine the transfer fee would have all the usual apperance fees, additional payments if Norwich aren''t promoted, win a trophy, qualify for Europe etc. At the end of the day we are talkign about a player who brings a smile to the face and if Norwich are set for a bit of midtable obscurity, then having a little magician on the pitch would be more than welcome (especially when it''s Quagliarella who also has a tremendus work rate). I''ve said it before and I''ll keep saying it, Quagliarella could be Norwich''s Berbatov, the kind of player who makes you look forward to playing Stoke away, because you never know what he might do. [/quote]He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker. How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from? Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it. [/quote]32 starts, 15 goals, 3 assists for £5m! I wouldn''t be complaining....If he does that again this season, I''d say that was value for money.[/quote]Yes but we aren''t signing Berbatov the former Golden Boot and proven Premier League striker, and we aren''t paying £5m! [/quote]''Nice of him isn''t it'' Meaning your comment was to be viewed from a Fulham perspective, suggesting that that they would be unhappy.No?[/quote]I see where you are coming from, but you are still attempting to compare Berbatov with Quaggy, and sorry but there really is no comparison. Berbatov was a genuine world class striker at his best. [/quote]Did I mention Quag anywhere? No. I was responding to your post. Is it really that hard to grasp?[/quote]Well my initial reply to Bethnal Green was related to both Berbatov and Quag. If you want to butt in and take that off course, then perhaps you shoudl ''grasp'' the opportunity to butt off and talk about Berbatov with somebody else. Try the Fulham forum. [/quote]If you only want to talk to one person, maybe you should look up the words ''Private Message'' & ''Forum'', as you obviously seem to be struggling as to what they mean.Oh, and *should*Moron....[/quote]Have you got anything to say about Quagliarella or do you just want to carry on being a pedantic prick? 

[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"][quote user="Indy"] V Kadlec Bethnal, at 21 has shed load of experience including European comp & international football. He is exactly the type of player to take on the creative attacking role. Would be cheaper than Quags and wages inside our structure. Additionally he''s only 21 and has the best of his form in front of him.   I''m sounding like his agent now, but there are some good alternatives to Quags. [/quote] I have been pushing Kadlec for a long time too and would love him to sign for exactly the reasons you point out,  he is now over his serious injury - but he remains a signing based on future potential over 2-4 years, while Quag is a signing to perform now having performed at a standard above nearly all the mentioned names. [/quote]I wonder whether Quag is a signing who doesn''t necessarily represent the best value for money in terms of individual ability but who most closely represents how Hughton wants to set out his team next season. In other words, I wonder whether he is being purchased not for his goals (he doesn''t score all that many), or his assists (he doesn''t set up all that many), but for something else about his game which will simply serve to aid the way that Hughton wants everybody else in the squad to play football next season. A little like Swansea, they have their own philosophy and ethos, and they buy players who fit into that. Perhaps he has a unique vision for a model which only certain players can for some reason fit. Could be anything, perhaps he is a great passer of the ball who can dictate tempo like Scholes, perhaps he sees him as a second striker in the Hoolahan role who can retain possession, who knows. That''s the only way that it could make sense to me. We can''t be buying him for his goals because if we were we''d be signing somebody else, like Gary Hooper! The truth appears to be that nobody has bloody heard of him and nobody has a clue. I''ve been told by somebody that he creates goals, but that doesn''t appear to be the case. It would be wise for everybody to admit that they just don''t have a clue what he will offer at this stage and just assume that Hughton knows best.If it weren''t for the fact that Hughton''s only two transfer flops have been strikers, I wouldn''t be worried. A bit harsh to call Becchio a flop, but can hardly call him a roaring success. Kane was a poor piece of judgement. Two bad/pointless signings, both strikers. That probably underlines my concerns about this transfer and the fee involved. 

[quote user="ReadingCanary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"]IMO some fans hang on to every single word that comes out of the club. And take it as gospel truth for ever more.  Through a previous manager we were told this ''young and hungry'' line regularly spun like a mantra.  Reality is, it''s not necessarily applicable any more.  As Hughton is very well aware I should imagine, quality costs even at this earth shattering grand old age of 30.[/quote]Well if age is no issue and everybody gets so excited by Italians then we could of signed Fabrizio Miccoli on a free transfer. The problem isn''t the age, the problem is the extremely high fee. [/quote]Surely if he scores 10 goals.Which keeps us in the league..We then earn the TV Money next year from staying up, it''s a very good investment?[/quote]Like I said, if we sign him I will look forward to seeing him play. But with an average of 8 goals a season in Serie A I wouldn''t put too much money on him scoring 10 in the Premier League. Just surprised if anything that we would make a signing like this, but then I suppose an experienced player in a young squad won''t hurt. Does anybody know if he can speak English?

[quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Firstly comparisions to players such as Defoe, Hooper, Bent etc. are silly, Quagliarella doesn''t play as a striker sitting on the last defenders shoulder and isn''t a player who ''comes alive in the box''. Norwich brought RvW in for that reason and signing another player like that would be foolish as they would end up trying to be in the same place as each other. It''s like when Becchio and Holt played together, they both tried to make the same runs or occupy the same area of the pitch. Quagliarealla plays deeper and is as happy creating goals as scoring them and would compliment a striker like Rvw, rather than being direct competition to him. Also, for me, he has the skill that is almost priceless and Norwich have been missing for a while, the ability to be a match winner all on his own. Quagliarella is a player who can create something from absolutely nothing, and as we saw last season Norwich can often struggle for that little piece of inspiration. The prices being talked about are high for a player of 30 years old, but his wages wouldn''t be out of Norwich''s range (probably around £40k a week, when you consider Olsson was on around £37k a week at Blackburn it gives you a little perspective). Also I imagine the transfer fee would have all the usual apperance fees, additional payments if Norwich aren''t promoted, win a trophy, qualify for Europe etc. At the end of the day we are talkign about a player who brings a smile to the face and if Norwich are set for a bit of midtable obscurity, then having a little magician on the pitch would be more than welcome (especially when it''s Quagliarella who also has a tremendus work rate). I''ve said it before and I''ll keep saying it, Quagliarella could be Norwich''s Berbatov, the kind of player who makes you look forward to playing Stoke away, because you never know what he might do. [/quote]He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker. How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from? Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it. [/quote]32 starts, 15 goals, 3 assists for £5m! I wouldn''t be complaining....If he does that again this season, I''d say that was value for money.[/quote]Yes but we aren''t signing Berbatov the former Golden Boot and proven Premier League striker, and we aren''t paying £5m! [/quote]''Nice of him isn''t it'' Meaning your comment was to be viewed from a Fulham perspective, suggesting that that they would be unhappy.No?[/quote]I see where you are coming from, but you are still attempting to compare Berbatov with Quaggy, and sorry but there really is no comparison. Berbatov was a genuine world class striker at his best. [/quote]Did I mention Quag anywhere? No. I was responding to your post. Is it really that hard to grasp?[/quote]Well my initial reply to Bethnal Green was related to both Berbatov and Quag. If you want to butt in and take that off course, then perhaps you shoudl ''grasp'' the opportunity to butt off and talk about Berbatov with somebody else. Try the Fulham forum. 

If Quaggy signs I will get behind him all the way, will forget about the fee, and just look forward to seeing him play. I''m just expressing my personal opinion that over £8.5m (and remember, that bid was apparently rejected) is a lot of money to pay for a striker who is ultimately just a squad player for Juventus (however good they are) and who is no longer in the frame for Italy caps at a time when they don''t really have any top class strikers other than Balottelli. There is a premium on strikers, of course there is, but we just signed a 24 year old Dutch international for £8.5m and Swansea have just signed Wilfried Bony for £12m, so I don''t think the ''strikers premium'' would really justify £8.5m for an almost 31 year old who has scored an average of 9 goals a season in all competitions for the past four seasons. I''ve been told that he "sets more up" or "creates more", but his stats seem to suggest 5 assists in three seasons, so not really any evidence of that. Apparently he creates more than Berbatov..... who has 11 assists in the past three seasons. So I don''t know who to believe. 

[quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"]IMO some fans hang on to every single word that comes out of the club. And take it as gospel truth for ever more.  Through a previous manager we were told this ''young and hungry'' line regularly spun like a mantra.  Reality is, it''s not necessarily applicable any more.  As Hughton is very well aware I should imagine, quality costs even at this earth shattering grand old age of 30.[/quote]Well if age is no issue and everybody gets so excited by Italians then we could of signed Fabrizio Miccoli on a free transfer. The problem isn''t the age, the problem is the extremely high fee. 

[quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Firstly comparisions to players such as Defoe, Hooper, Bent etc. are silly, Quagliarella doesn''t play as a striker sitting on the last defenders shoulder and isn''t a player who ''comes alive in the box''. Norwich brought RvW in for that reason and signing another player like that would be foolish as they would end up trying to be in the same place as each other. It''s like when Becchio and Holt played together, they both tried to make the same runs or occupy the same area of the pitch. Quagliarealla plays deeper and is as happy creating goals as scoring them and would compliment a striker like Rvw, rather than being direct competition to him. Also, for me, he has the skill that is almost priceless and Norwich have been missing for a while, the ability to be a match winner all on his own. Quagliarella is a player who can create something from absolutely nothing, and as we saw last season Norwich can often struggle for that little piece of inspiration. The prices being talked about are high for a player of 30 years old, but his wages wouldn''t be out of Norwich''s range (probably around £40k a week, when you consider Olsson was on around £37k a week at Blackburn it gives you a little perspective). Also I imagine the transfer fee would have all the usual apperance fees, additional payments if Norwich aren''t promoted, win a trophy, qualify for Europe etc. At the end of the day we are talkign about a player who brings a smile to the face and if Norwich are set for a bit of midtable obscurity, then having a little magician on the pitch would be more than welcome (especially when it''s Quagliarella who also has a tremendus work rate). I''ve said it before and I''ll keep saying it, Quagliarella could be Norwich''s Berbatov, the kind of player who makes you look forward to playing Stoke away, because you never know what he might do. [/quote]He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker. How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from? Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it. [/quote]32 starts, 15 goals, 3 assists for £5m! I wouldn''t be complaining....If he does that again this season, I''d say that was value for money.[/quote]Yes but we aren''t signing Berbatov the former Golden Boot and proven Premier League striker, and we aren''t paying £5m! [/quote]''Nice of him isn''t it'' Meaning your comment was to be viewed from a Fulham perspective, suggesting that that they would be unhappy.No?[/quote]I see where you are coming from, but you are still attempting to compare Berbatov with Quaggy, and sorry but there really is no comparison. Berbatov was a genuine world class striker at his best. 

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][/quote] He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker.  How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from?  Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it.  [/quote] Vela is a totally different kind of player, whilst of course there are other players available, you are unlikely to find many with Quag''s class, affordable wages and would be interested in joining Norwich (not that we are certain he wants to join). You will only find players who are slightly older wishing to make that move. Also Norwich are going to have a pretty young squad next year, a couple of experienced heads around the place would help out a lot. Norwich are trying to take advantage of Juve''s current situation of rejuvinating their squad with new attacking players, most Juve fans don''t want Quagliarella to leave but with world class players coming in there is little option. The Olsson wages figure was from something his agent told the Swedish media last season, he mentioned it was the reason Olsson didn''t leave Blackburn as soon as they were relegated. The fact Norwich picked up a very capable international left back, at the perfect age who had time left on his contract for around £2.5m fits into him being on high wages - Blackburn were eager to offload his high cost. Also, £35k - £40k a week isn''t particulary high wages for a club in the position Blackburn were in when he signed the contract, it''s roughly average wage for a Premier player I reckon. Even if Berba does leave Fulham on a free in a years time I think you''ll find most Fulham fans will feel they got good value - most Fulham fans say he is the main reason they enjoy going to games because players like that can pull off the unthinkable at times. Football is entertainment, let''s get some entertainers on the pitch. [/quote]£5m for Berbatov and £8.5m+ for Quaggy aren''t really comparable are they? One is a Premier League golden boot winner who has scored over 250 career goals. 

[quote user="cornish sam"]To compare his value based on Central and Defensive Midfielders that are a little bit younger but still Italian is missing the point.  [/quote]I wasn''t comparing strikers with defensive midfielders, I was comparing one of the best defensive midfielders in the world with a striker who doesn''t look like he has played for Italy for three years. It''s the equivalent of Peter Crouch being bought for more money than Michael Essien.    

[quote user="Unhinged Canary"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Firstly comparisions to players such as Defoe, Hooper, Bent etc. are silly, Quagliarella doesn''t play as a striker sitting on the last defenders shoulder and isn''t a player who ''comes alive in the box''. Norwich brought RvW in for that reason and signing another player like that would be foolish as they would end up trying to be in the same place as each other. It''s like when Becchio and Holt played together, they both tried to make the same runs or occupy the same area of the pitch. Quagliarealla plays deeper and is as happy creating goals as scoring them and would compliment a striker like Rvw, rather than being direct competition to him. Also, for me, he has the skill that is almost priceless and Norwich have been missing for a while, the ability to be a match winner all on his own. Quagliarella is a player who can create something from absolutely nothing, and as we saw last season Norwich can often struggle for that little piece of inspiration. The prices being talked about are high for a player of 30 years old, but his wages wouldn''t be out of Norwich''s range (probably around £40k a week, when you consider Olsson was on around £37k a week at Blackburn it gives you a little perspective). Also I imagine the transfer fee would have all the usual apperance fees, additional payments if Norwich aren''t promoted, win a trophy, qualify for Europe etc. At the end of the day we are talkign about a player who brings a smile to the face and if Norwich are set for a bit of midtable obscurity, then having a little magician on the pitch would be more than welcome (especially when it''s Quagliarella who also has a tremendus work rate). I''ve said it before and I''ll keep saying it, Quagliarella could be Norwich''s Berbatov, the kind of player who makes you look forward to playing Stoke away, because you never know what he might do. [/quote]He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker. How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from? Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it. [/quote]32 starts, 15 goals, 3 assists for £5m! I wouldn''t be complaining....If he does that again this season, I''d say that was value for money.[/quote]Yes but we aren''t signing Berbatov the former Golden Boot and proven Premier League striker, and we aren''t paying £5m! 

[quote user="chicken"]@Newboy: Defoe, Sturridge and Carroll are not exactly borderline for England are they? Defoe has made 54 appearances for England scoring 19 goals (according to wiki). There is more of a case for Carroll and Sturridge as being borderline but I think you''ll find that they have been called up a lot by Hodgson and included in a lot of his squads. So again, not really borderline. It does introduce another question about English football when your four top strikers are Rooney, Defoe who are then backed up by the likes of Carroll, Sturridge.[/quote]Well another way to look at it is that Quaggy has 6 goals in 25 games for Italy, and Peter Crouch has 22 goals in 44 games for England. Neither have represented their country since 2010. We aren''t signing Francesco Totti like some are making out, people seem blinded by the fact that he has a few Italy caps. He must be about 10th in the pecking order in Italy considering the standard of player that have been capped in his position over the last year or two... Watford have just signed a striker who got an Italy cap in 2012 who has only scored 5 league goals in his career.Don''t think you will find that that Italian strikers are any better than ours, if anything they are worse at the minute, Borini hardly set the league alight last season..... Sturridge didn''t do too bad in the same team. Italy aren''t all they are cracked up to be, as they showed when they failed to score against England last summer. 

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Firstly comparisions to players such as Defoe, Hooper, Bent etc. are silly, Quagliarella doesn''t play as a striker sitting on the last defenders shoulder and isn''t a player who ''comes alive in the box''. Norwich brought RvW in for that reason and signing another player like that would be foolish as they would end up trying to be in the same place as each other. It''s like when Becchio and Holt played together, they both tried to make the same runs or occupy the same area of the pitch. Quagliarealla plays deeper and is as happy creating goals as scoring them and would compliment a striker like Rvw, rather than being direct competition to him. Also, for me, he has the skill that is almost priceless and Norwich have been missing for a while, the ability to be a match winner all on his own. Quagliarella is a player who can create something from absolutely nothing, and as we saw last season Norwich can often struggle for that little piece of inspiration. The prices being talked about are high for a player of 30 years old, but his wages wouldn''t be out of Norwich''s range (probably around £40k a week, when you consider Olsson was on around £37k a week at Blackburn it gives you a little perspective). Also I imagine the transfer fee would have all the usual apperance fees, additional payments if Norwich aren''t promoted, win a trophy, qualify for Europe etc. At the end of the day we are talkign about a player who brings a smile to the face and if Norwich are set for a bit of midtable obscurity, then having a little magician on the pitch would be more than welcome (especially when it''s Quagliarella who also has a tremendus work rate). I''ve said it before and I''ll keep saying it, Quagliarella could be Norwich''s Berbatov, the kind of player who makes you look forward to playing Stoke away, because you never know what he might do. [/quote]He isn''t the only creative deep lying striker in the world though, Carlos Vela would be perfect as a second striker. How did you gain the impression that Olsson was on £37k a week at Blackburn? I''ve just googled ''Martin Olsson £37000'' and there were no results. That is quite a precise figure, care to share where you pulled it from? Whilst on the subject of Berbatov, he has signalled his intention to see out the second year of his contract and leave Fulham on a bosman at the end of the season after Fulham paid £5m for him. Nice of him isn''t it. 

It looks like he hasn''t played for Italy for almost three years, which would make him about as much of an Italian international as Peter Crouch, who last played for England in 2010. In the meantime Borini played for Italy last year, and he was rubbish for Liverpool.