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  1. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

    No Buendia or Skipp this time, but you keep burying your head up your ****, that's as embarrassing as the performances, I'm literally embarrassed for you, but hey as you say entertaining for the rest of us, cheers me up seeing people so utterly deluded 👍😂

    Also you do realise club's have been promoted in the past without Buendia and Skipp? (Including us).

    At least I'm not burying my head in the past. I look forward to the next star, the next transfer steal, up and coming loan, or free transfer.

     

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  2. Posted

    1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said:

    No Buendia or Skipp this time, but you keep burying your head up your ****, that's as embarrassing as the performances, I'm literally embarrassed for you, but hey as you say entertaining for the rest of us, cheers me up seeing people so utterly deluded 👍😂

    Has it been announced we're signing no one this summer?

    Thanks for your concern and being 'literally' embarrassed for me 🤣

    I just don't take it all as seriously as it seems some on here do. I cant get angry enough to start talking so abusively about the club or its fans.

    I'm also not going to overreact about a season that hasn't even started yet. I've heard all this angry nonsense before and now it's just funny, because the seasons some oracles on here have predicted would result in relegation or mid table mediocrity have been... somewhat different.

    You need to look up what delusional means before using it so readily

  3. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    2 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

    Well, this is fun. Can genuinely see these idiots heading to league 1 next season without major changes at board level, management level and playing staff. 

    Yet with a similar points total last time out, we kept the same board, management and playing staff and won the league.

    I get people are angry, but the reactions on here are as embarrassing as the performances on the pitch

    Entertaining though....do carry on everyone

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  6. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    5 hours ago, priceyrice said:

    Is this a joke? You know they had him on last week? 

    Yes it's a joke. Don't you get it? It's the old 'pretend I don't know something for absolutely no comedic effect whatsoever', joke 🙂

     

    Had no idea. Don't listen it. Will do now though. Can't be anything too revealing or damning on there though as haven't seen a highly misleading, clickbait thread about it

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  8. Posted

    On 30/04/2022 at 18:46, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

    I too received an email yesterday saying that one has become available. I joined the waiting list with my dad and there's no mention of him (nor me actually, they just addressed me as 'City fan'), but I assume it means us both. 

    Does anyone know which parts of the ground are likely to have seats available and what the likelihood will be of two seats together, or failing that, reasonably close?

    Don't know if you still need the info but there's pair's of seats in

    Upper barclay

    Wensum corner (between city stand and river end) - impaired view

    River end, Upper and lower

    Joma corner, Upper and lower - impaired view

     

    These were the only areas I was told had seats together. There's single seats dotted about in all areas, but nice to get a seat with my boy - and saved some money on my current ST.

     

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  9. Posted

    5 hours ago, AJ said:

    Smith has yet to show anything to suggest he has the credentials to do well next season

    Other than his previous promotion from the championship (cue the bleating about money and squad - you can find fault in anything if you look hard enough, do you really want to find fault that much in our current manager?) and the fact he's kept a team in the PL (only because of a technology fail 😪 all those other results don't count) and has a superior record to Farke in said league. Also other than the fact he actually reacted and worked with what he has at the club rather than stubbornly, foolishly or just due to incapability, plough on with a failing system and embarrass the club, forcing a decision to be made.

    Love that I've infuriated so many posters with that paragraph.

    Smith has plenty to show he will be a success for us next season. Whether he will remains to be seen but his actual history (without just spouting statistics) is proven and encouraging.

    If not Smith, who, realistically, would be a better option for us in the championship? (Farke isn't coming back)

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  10. Posted

    I know it was only paper but the amount of young children (and adults) throwing disused flyers at Man City players (and then Raphinha, which just sums Leeds fans up) was absolutely disgraceful. Paper easily becomes bottles and coins. Pathetic fans, deserve no place anywhere near a football ground and give decent, respectful fans a bad name.

  12. Posted

    16 minutes ago, daly said:

    If Leeds or Everton go down almost certain to take up one of the automatic promotion places next season

    Not Everton. Big financial problems regardless of what league they're in. The absence of PL money could see them do a Leeds/Sunderland/Charlton etc and simply keep dropping.

    DCL and Richarlison probably leaving whatever happens, but would have to lose a lot more if they go down to have any kind of hope of staying afloat a league below.

    Some very ITK pieces written by Everton fans/pundits about the subject if you look around (or listen around on podcasts). They're s****** themselves about the prospect of relegation.

  15. Posted

    1 minute ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    Didnt matter though did it. The outcome with Smith has been no better than if we had kept the faith with Farke. We've still been relegated, we've still been sh*te and we've still stunk the place out according to most other teams fans (not that I care what they think - my point is, I dont think switching to Smith achieved anything - the football has still been sh*te to watch, painfully ineffective and our reputation is still mud).

    The reality is we will never be able to compete in the Premier League without either keeping the players who might grow into PL standard players (Aarons, Godfrey, Buendia etc) or without serious investement - not kids for the future, or cut-price relegated Bundesliga players.

    And as long as that remains the case it doesnt really matter who our manager is. All I know is we lost the best in the business at getting promoted from the Championship and I dont think that's something we should have tossed away.

    I remain to be convinced that Smith will get us promoted again. Jury is still out. I do feel there needs to be a major overhaul this summer though. Smith needs to install a single way of playing that will be effective in the championship and subsequent Premier League seasons. That is his remit and if he fails to achieve that, nothing will convince me that dispensing wth Farke in favour of him was the right move.

    I agree with most of that, but it's hindsight. The change was to give us the best possible chance of staying up. From what I know and saw of Farke managing in the PL, we had virtually no hope. Smith, whilst many will claim has done nothing and changed nothing, did give me hope. We looked like we could compete and get results. I simply didn't feel that way with Farke, unfortunately. Its not a nice thing to think as I'm not inpatient as a fan, I believe in giving managers time and I love Farke. But thats the reality and whilst again I agree there's no one better than Farke in th3 championship, I agreed the change needed to be made, to roll the dice, to try something different. Farke had plenty of time to adjust, change and make us as competitive as possible. He just didn't do that in the PL.

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  16. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    14 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    The problem is, and always was the players.

    I just feel Farke was blamed for the poor performances, when it wouldnt have mattered who the manager was, Farke, Smith, Alex chuffing Ferguson.

    I cant really name a single player who has excelled themselves this season - certainly none of our new signings have produced, not even Normann, who for a few games looked the business. People talk about Rashica, but he has really produced very little for all his promise. 

    Aarons has had a poor season by his standards and looks to have gone backwards. Hanley has been praised yet also derided by some. Pukki has been steady and shown he can score, but we have been toothless generally all season

    And this is where we'll have to agree to disagree, whilst also agreeing the recruitment was the main problem!

    It hasn't mattered who's in charge as we got relegated, and yes, comprehensively. But Smith did what Farke either couldn't or wouldn't. He went back to basics and just got the extremely limited squad to do the basic things and try and nick some wins. He played to the very few strengths the squad had and negated as much as possible, the weaknesses:

    - a very very good striker who will score goals no matter what other rubbish is around him.

    - a youngster in Idah who has strength and pace and can really worry and hassle defences and be the support that Pukki can thrive off.

    - a non existent midfield that we started to bypass whenever possible as it wasn't capable of playing through PL teams

     

    Farkes approach is an ideal. It wasn't practical with the resources at his disposal. Was he stubborn or just naive? Don't know. But it didn't work no matter what. 

    Smith, despite this not being his usual way of coaching a team, played fairly unattractive football to try and get results. It worked in patches but the injuries and general quality in the squad told.

  17. Posted

    16 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    Compare the money spent by Norwich and Villa and see the difference in resources

    I agree. Therfore the fact Smith adjusted the style and tactics (despite not his preferred way of playing) proved to me he was more likely to get a tune out of an incredibly poor PL squad than Farke was (who'd had a whole season and the 'only' 11 games of this to prove he could adapt and get the most out of his resources)

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  18. Posted

    9 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

     

    Id simply call that the 'New manager effect'. New broom, performances and psychology changes temporarily. After which player performance levels return to base. Frequently observed.

    Its why we sacked Hughton with 5 games to go and gave the job to Adams - the hope that the bounce effect might give us a temporarty boost in performance. Otherwise there would have been little point in trying it. 'Bonkers!' according to Hughton-lovers Lineker and Shearer

    So therfore the reason we had another patch in January, coincidentally once some players were back from injury and we had some sort of squad to choose from, that looked competitive and got some results....is....?

  19. Posted

    7 minutes ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    Apples and Oranges. Smith had a lot of money (ok he did have to replace a lot of players). He was behind Farke in 2019 finishing 18 points behind us. Villa stayed up according to a lot of people simply because of one goal-line technology failure. Fine margins.

    Compare the money spent by Norwich and Villa and see the difference in resources.

    Sigh. 

    I wrote a lengthy post about Smith somewhere that actually had some context and detail, rather than just the usual '19 points behind Farke', 'one goal line technology decison the reason they stayed up' blah blah.

    Stuff like where Villa were as a club when he took over, the state of the club, the football he then got them playing, losing Grealish (comparing it to us losing Emi) and the run he took them on at the end of that season. Farke had a whole season to implement a change of style. Smith managed it in a couple of months if not less. Yes he had a decent squad, but a change that played to the squads strengths. Something he did here that also started to get results.

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  20. Posted

    2 hours ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    These seem to be rather similar to the points people make about Farke (poor recruitment, no pre-season) that you referred to as excuses in another thread.

    To be clear, Im ambivalent about Smith. I thought sacking Farke was the wrong decision the moment I heard about it and I havent changed my mind.

    Nevertheless the change was made and it IS too early to judge Smith. I can comment that I think sacking Farke was a mistake, and that Smith wasnt, in my opinion an upgrade, indeed he has a lot to even match before we can talk about him being better - most notably he has to bring players through (seems to be trying to bring Rowe on), but his first major challenge is turning a losing team back into a winning one - which Farke did with aplomb. 

    Smith has to win the league in the way Farke did post relegation (no small achievement) to even be considered on a par with Farke, let alone an improvement.

    Imagine he did that, then got given 11 games of the Premier League season before being sacked. In the away dressing room. After a win.

    Would be a pretty sh*tty way to treat him wouldnt it?

    You say the first PL season under Farke is irrelevant in the other thread. I disagree. It was a big reason Farke got 'only' 11 games this time. He continued to show his limitations in the PL. Had we shown potential when changing system then I would've argued he deserved more time but there was nothing. We were going backwards.

  21. Posted

    3 hours ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    Id say that mentality is what saw the board give Farke 11 games. 

    At the time it was commented he'd had far longer than he deserved and longer than most clubs would give managers in the PL. 11 games is close to 1/3 of the season, a season we were becoming more of an embarrassment than the end of our last PL campaign.

    There was virtually no signs of Farkes sides winning games. No matter what he changed, we didnt look competitive one way or another. Ultra defensive boredom that wouldn't get goals or attacking play that got torn apart in defence.

     

    Smith did get a tune out of the squad. We looked competitive. Fans didn't like it but we had a plan and we used the squad and its limitations to the absolute best of its ability. That it wasn't enough yes shows the main failing was recruitment, but the season also shows that we appointed a manager with PL nous who adapted to the tools at his disposal - something Farke proved he couldn't do.

  22. Posted

    3 hours ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    Webber seemingly convinced the board that the squad was underperforming - and he did this based on his own ego/judgement that his recruitment wasnt sh*t. Sacking Farke was like on The Thick Of It, when some lacky's head rolls to give the baying mob their pound of flesh and protect the incompetent minister

    Pure conjecture. As shown from Smith's early results, the squad could compete and get some results. The problem became squad depth. The fact Smith got early results, and again so signs of life in Jan once injuries eased shows it was the leadership more than the squad quality (but agreed this squad was always incredibly poor for the PL)

  24. Posted

    2 hours ago, The Great Mass Debater said:

    We learned last time that Farkeball cant really work in the Premiership - great for winning the championship, but cant work in the Premier League with inferior calibre players. Farke, beng a good manager, was trying to find a formula. They didnt back him, and gave his job to another manager, one for whom there is no evidence is a better manager - to scapegoat him in the mistaken belief that the players were up to it. They lost faith in Farke, which they shouldnt have done in my opinion. They cracked under the pressure. Cowardly, in my opinion.

    You answered it all here.

    Farkeball doesn't work in the PL and the new, whatever it was with Farke was even worse. Those early games were even more embarrassing than post lockdown games. Sooooo bad. And I love Farke, he will most likely be the manager who provided the most entertaining season I will ever have watching NCFC.

    Farke was Webbers man, he will not want to have sacked him. But the decision had to be made. We'd played a really poor Arsenal, a really poor Leicester, a rubbish Everton, Watford etc etc. Whilst there can be a certain amount of excuses made as it was early in the season, settling in with a new system etc, we simply were not even competitive and never looked like getting anything from the games. Farke ripped up this new system much like his whole philosophy since he joined the club and we got a couple of draws at the expense of any goal threat whatsoever. We then got sussed and lost games again, without looking like scoring.

    Again I say how much I love Farke, but the decision had to be made. How have so many forgotten just how bad the start to the season was?? That start coupled with the previous PL campaign (which is completely relevant- how could it not be, it was Farke in the league we're trying to adapt to stay in) meant the decision was simple. Move on to attempt to stay in the league. That a PL manager became available could have been luck, whatever, but available he became and it was a brave decision to sack a beloved (your words) figure, especially after a first win (that came from a return to an old formation). 

    Why do so many place little to no blame on Farke for the changes? He wouldn't have just walked in at the beginning of the summer and said "so Stuart, what do you want me to do this season and with who". He would have had input. How much blame we'll never know, and Webber is clearly most culpable,  but all these excuses for Farke are baffling, and amusing as they weren't around at the time. Hindsight, brilliant.

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