Ian
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Unfortunately the first in particular was a terrible miss, we should really have been out of sight in that game.
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2 minutes ago, Coneys Knee said:He’s not wrong though is he!
How far do you want to go back? We finished third in the top tier in 92-93. Back a few years ago I was personally extremely disappointed at how Farke's tactics and training were far removed from what we saw then.
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Woman in her 80s feels unsafe at a public event and some highly intellectual chaps point out she was probably asking for it.
Sounds surprisingly familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it?
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5 minutes ago, lake district canary said:It's a far cry from the efficient and disciplined training of the Reimer/Domogalla/John days - players playing one touch football, triangles, concentrating on movement and position. A lot of the training match they showed here was just a free for all.
I say this with all respect; you truly have to move on from Daniel et al.
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28 minutes ago, hogesar said:Most coaches running sessions don't tend to be top ex footballers to be fair.
Actually bizarre how people think being a "top ex pro" is a qualifier for being a top coach or manager. Edit: plus I would suggest being a good Championship Player, whilst not being Pirlo, is pretty ****ing high level for a footballer in general.
Wayne Rooney sends his best though.
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The goal was a cracking move though wasn't it?
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I actually thought we had the better chances overall today, and that had we been capable of making more basic passes would have fashioned even more.
No doubt we deliberately surrendered possession to Southampton (and whether that's ever a good approach at home is a valid argument), but I don't really remember that many nailed on chances for them. Even their goal came from arguably two mistakes from Kenny and Hanley.
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Could be some players are a bit on the fatigued side?
Doesn't exactly seem inspiring but let's see how it goes.
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Surely it depends massively on what price could be negotiated? Anybody know what he's available for?
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Could this be the season we see a record point-scoring third place haul? 😁
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1 minute ago, Helsinki canary said:Certain agree with the comment about the left back, Macallum is getting off lightly on this board tonight, he had an absolute shocker and was terrible in getting back and doing his main job which is defending the left side - his only saving grace was some great long throws into the box
Easy to point fingers at McCallum, but I thought the difference in covering between Sainz and Rowe was quite stark today.
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On a serious note, Wagner has had a lot of exceptional circumstances to deal with which has led to me giving him the benefit of the doubt so far, particularly when it is clear he still has the dressing room.
That said, when Sarge is back (and Hanley fully match fit) there really are no excuses left for Wagner. If we haven't progressed significantly by the end of the season I can certainly see Knapper pulling the trigger.
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"Nothing will change in regards to players showing dissent until players are sent off for this kind of thing..."
Disappointing when this happens to your own player, but I am sure lots of people would be saying what a great decision it was had the shoe been on the other foot.
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9 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said:Oh lets think for half a second now............ Idah against Hull - Idah against Cardiff - Idah against Bristol City - you know games that we were either drawing or losing when he made the substitution and we ended up winning because of a goal scored by the substitute that he brought on.
Well yeah, but apart from all the times substitutions have won us points, or kept us from conceding, they've done nothing.
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3 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:It's fair to say he was in contravention of the rules and thus open to be being booked. However, both of the yellows were for very trivial things that amounted to a decision that basically ended the whole game at 33 minutes. The referee does have discretion on what he does and there has been plenty of inconsistency this season, which means it's entirely justifiable to criticise the referee for killing the game unnecessarily.
It's apparently accepted that consistency can't be expected, in which case sensible discretion should be. What the referee did today doesn't stand up either in terms of consistency throughout the game or for sensible application of discretion.
Both decisions were justified yellows. The referee didn't break any rules or make any wrong decisions, both were made in accordance with the laws of the game.
If you want to obfuscate and say it was harsh, or players don't always get booked, or this player did the same thing and avoided punishment, then I am sure you are correct, but that's completely besides the point.
The fact is that Sainz is supposed to be a professional footballer and simply let his team-mates down today by acting as he did, particularly after receiving a yellow card just a few minutes before.
Hopefully this is a lesson he will learn quickly, as there's no question he has great abilities and is one of our best attackers.
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Just now, RobJames said:Is English your first language ?
Yes, perhaps I just progressed passed Primary School levels of comprehension?
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1 minute ago, RobJames said:No one is making excuses for Sainz. Stop making up stuff.
So nobody has said it was poor refereeing/harsh/the wrong decision/not a yellow card offence then?
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Wonder if all these people making excuses for Sainz would also be making excuses for Kenny or Idah had they done the same thing?
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Definitely should have been more yellows in that game, but Sainz can't complain at either.
Very stupid to do that gesture when you have just been booked, and hopefully he has apologised to his teammates. Difficult to say he cost us a point today, but I would have fancied us to at least score if we had 11 on the pitch.
PS. Thought Kenny was good at both CB and CM throughout today.
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The laughable "but Leeds' squad is worth 10 times ours" have already come out.
I suspect it could be a glorious festive period for us.
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2 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:"and also one of the few midfielders who actually does track midfielders back and screen the defence."
....and here is the problem, he wasnt doing a good enough job of it
See tge 20 chances conceded per game and the worst defence in the league...up until about 6 games ago, when he switched position
..and what DD had got to do with it , is that you seem incapable of the distinction that exists between the skills required for a central defender to that of a midfielder
Whereas every other CM we have has been faultless defensively and absolutely not responsible for any poor midfield play.
I've seen Sara gift the ball to the opposition in ridiculous areas numerous times this season, far more than KM, but I note you haven't shared any criticism of him.
There is quite literally no point in trying to reason with "supporters" like yourselves who have already made their decision on KM, and strive to clutch any straws which they think proves their opinions rather than except the growing body of evidence that Kenny is actually a pretty decent player at this level.
Let's see how the rest of the season plays out and revisit this conversation in July.
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12 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:Really doesnt see the difference between a defender reading a game and a midfielder being overrun and being sliced open???
One of the best 'defenders' I saw play for us for reading a game was Dion Dublin....now do you think he could play in central midfield??
I think its time for your horlicks and bed
WTF has DD got to do with whether Kenny is a decent CM, despite playing there at Prem, Championship and international level? Really quite demented.
Anybody who has watched any games in the last couple of seasons would see that Kenny is very often sitting between two CBs who are pushed wide, and also one of the few midfielders who actually does track midfielders back and screen the defence.
We have previously been utterly porous in midfield this season, but I just cannot comprehend those who think this is due to KM, and furthermore that his exceptional performances at CB are evidence he is culpable defensively.
Clearly you're so entrenched in your views you won't ever consider you could have misjudged him, so suggest we leave it there.
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8 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:You need to distinguish between 'player' and 'midfielder' as you're quite cowardly moving the goal posts
My criticism is of him is as a midfielder...and still stands
...and as has now been previously mentiined twice, we couldnt have known how he would play in this defensive rols as we hadnt previously seen it
...and for that i have acknowledged that it has worked ..so far...and that he loiks a better player there
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1 minute ago, canarydan23 said:Is it more or less sad than those who can't hold their hands up and admit they were wrong about him being essential to our midfield?
Moving him to CB was a smart move. Dropping him from CM was even smarter. No one was calling for the former, but those calling for the latter were spot on, weren't they? You can admit that, can't you?
I just genuinely don't understand the point you're trying to make.
I've seen nobody suggest Kenny is absolutely essential to our midfield, but plenty who have pointed out that he has always done a consistent job there, and that he has been unfairly maligned as responsible for our poor defensive performance this season.
The argument that because he has now dropped back to CB in a totally alien position demonstrates he's a poor defensive midfielder is really very bizarre. Honestly what sort of logic dictates that because a poor defensive midfielder has been moved into a far more critical defensive position and done magnificently well, is proof he is **** defensively?
Clearly Kenny haters are willing to jump through as many hoops of congnitive dissonance as it takes so they don't have to admit they may be clueless.
At least Wagner is honest
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Hernandez made things happen today, should absolutely have had two assists.