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  1. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

    I can well imagine how the local youths had a field day. I went to Brussels following England at Euro 2000 for what i think probably remains a record breaking weekend for arrests at a football match (England v Germany). Everyone will be familiar with the 5 minutes of chair throwing in Charleroi which always gets shown on the news but the truth is that lasted about 5 minutes and was pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.

    Brussels was a different kettle of fish, as is Marseille when England play there in major tournaments - give it a wide berth! If you wander about by yourself or in small groups then you get picked of by the locals, if you joined other groups of England fans in pubs or bars then sooner or later the police would turn up and tear gas the place and randomly arrest groups of people. But the most terrifying moment (which is why I draw the analogy with the gangs in St Dennis) was having returned from Charleroi as the police made all of the England fans get off at the Brussels South station and walk back to their hotels from there. This basically involved walking through what i subsequently was told is a very dodgy quarter of Brussels as most of us were staying in the city centre., As soon as we are a few hundred yards out of the station, all the polkice completely disappeared and youths began emerging from every side road flashing knives and calling us every name under the sun. Then at a cross roads all hell broke loose when hundreds of them came rushing in and ambushed us. The most hairy moment i've had watching football I have to say.

    All you heard after that weekend wa about England fans causing trouble and its true to say that we have our nutters when travelling abroad and England fans sometimes do themsleves no favours. But a lot of the time its the English fans who are the ones being attacked an in some places its not by rival fans but usually by the local gangs of youths who wait til it gets dark then pick you off. 

     

    A similar thing happened with this the buses letting people out roughly 3km from the stadium and them having to walk through the Saint-Denis suburb to the stadium.

    As you said I imagine the local youths had a field day.

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    1 hour ago, king canary said:

    Oh this is going well.

    On one hand we've got 'I don't like Liverpool fans so it must all be their fault.'

    On the other we've now got 'I don't like African's so it must be their fault.'

    Here's Thierry Henry saying for fans to be careful because the final will be held in Saint-Denis (notoriously dangerous suburb)

     

  8. Posted

    Just now, hertfordyellow said:

    "It is a neighbouhood where they live mostly people of African origin". Why does this matter to him I wonder?

    While this account points to poor organisation and a lack of police it is a very different problem to the one happening at the Liverpool end. Also, a lack of police might be because 80k more Liverpool fans turned up in the city, took over whole squares and drank heavily all day, needing a huge police presence? Liverpool did nothing to dissuade fans from turning up without a ticket and it will always cause issues, especially with a police force already uneasy with British fans.

    Because Saint Denis is a neighbourhood where people of mainly African origin live.

    It's also a neighbourhood where almost every tourist site will tell you never to visit because it's too dangerous  

  13. Posted

    12 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said:

    His full name is Giovane Santana do Nascimento. 1 goal in 9 games for Corinthians this season. If memory serves correct, I vaguely remember some other Brazilian with the same surname who turned out to be a half decent player.

     

     

     

     

    Giovane (Transfermarkt)

    He's part of the Corinthians youth team so he'll most likely join up as an option for our youth team too, if he does sign.

    Might be the recruitment team testing the waters of bringing in South American talent and utilising the knowledge they've acquired over the past couple of years.

    Screenshot_20220418-232119_Instagram.jpg

  15. Posted · Edited by Renskay

    I don't know why exactly but I'd prefer us to sign a domestic based player because our transfer business from abroad this season shows that we've underestimated the adaptation period it actually takes to readjust to a new league/country/play style/language/ etc. 

    It seems it is far more of a factor than the scouting team accounted for.

    Players don't just slot in to a new side perfectly on talent alone.

    Teams like Brentford regularly pluck domestic talent from English lower leagues and mould them to be better players for their first team. We should try to do the same.

    That being said my creative midfield picks would be either of Scott Twine (MK Dons), John Swift (Reading - Free Agent in Summer), Jed Wallace (Millwall - Free Agent in Summer)or Callum O'Hare (Coventry).

    I'd really like us to sign a dead ball specialist because it's been a common theme that our set pieces have been atrocious for years now.

  16. Posted

    3 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

    The irony is that you are claiming that this racist is a victim because he should be allowed to spout hatred online and, when he does, he is being victimised as a result. 

    The people of the country are victims because the noose of what is and is not acceptable is tightening so that you will be arrested for the perceived offence of another person even when the reality of what actually happened (posting a picture online) does not match the punishment.

    The precedent is clearly set by things like this and it's through blind naivety that people like you can ignore that and sing it's praises.

    Anyway I'm about to go workout, you guys have fun in agreement about how this is the best thing ever.

  17. Posted

    2 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

    Hate speech can be a precursor to violence by the person themselves or incite others to violence, or both.

    "can be a precursor to violence"

    So it's now in legislation that the police can assume a motive for your intent to commit violence just through the perceived offence taken of another individual based on something you said, even if what you said in no way directs an intent to violence. The state can prescribe an intent towards you, as if they can read your mind and predict your actions.

    Therefore arresting you for a crime you are yet to commit and are unlikely to commit.

    and you boomers don't see how that's a problem...

    Honestly we're all doomed.

  18. Posted · Edited by Renskay

    12 minutes ago, non-scoring strikers said:

    So we should ignore some crimes because there's other crime? 

    That's not logical. Quite the opposite. 

    You should prioritise crimes where *actual* violence is taking place as they cause more damage to people.

    That is logical.

    It makes sense to solve murders than to spend every man hour of police time hunting down the IP address of a 14 year old on twitter who leaves a comment after his team lost.

  19. Posted

    1 minute ago, Canarywary said:

    Do you understand the concept of 'inciting racial hatred'? It isn't simply words if it's creating an atmosphere that puts people at genuine risk. Look how instances of racism increased under Trump.

    Why would "incidents of racism" not increase when the focus of cataloguing the said "incidents" have gone into over drive in the past 5 years.

    The spectrum of what classifies an "incident of racism" is so broad that's it's actually laughable as well as people can claim to be a victim with no evidence, witness, reason or fact and still it will be catalogued as legitimate. 

    You can say why would someone do this? Well the reason is obvious, claiming to be a victim is something that is rewarded in today's society.

    There are countless examples of people claiming to be victims to seek out some type of reward from it.

    https://fakehatecrimes.org/

     

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  20. Posted

    1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

    Not too sure that sending someone photos of gas chamber victims and telling them they are next in line should count as 'free speech' but what do I know..

    If you can't see how the precedent is being set to silence speech at this stage you will forever remain blind to it.

    The patterns are obvious. 

    Stop pretending it's just going to be people you hate who will be arrested.

  21. Posted · Edited by Renskay

    9 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

    Cough, did Renskay really just say that?  Perhaps we should bring back Goebbel's, he was only setting things out in print that his mate wrote in Mien Kamp. 

    Perhaps we should just lock me up and throw away the key because I committed the sin of having a logical opinion on this instead of hysterical virtue signalling about a situation which is clearly bad for society and will push the bounds of free speech and freedom itself until there is nothing you can say on the Internet or even be uttered lest you are hounded down by the police for an opinion that goes against the popular narrative being portrayed by the establishment whilst actual murders, acid attacks and rapes go unsolved but do go on about how it's so great people are being arrested for tweets.

     

    It's such a great sign of *progress*

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