Badger
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On 28/05/2021 at 17:22, corbs said:Do you get a yellow card if you absent mindedly slip into a jog?
The idea of "absent-mindedly slipping into a jog" is beyond my comprehension! Were I ever to consider such an activity it would take moths of careful planning and a full risk assessment.
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10 hours ago, DraytonBoy said:Attanasio may be happy with the takeover timescale which might be contractual.
I thought that he was the one that wanted the longer time scale?
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4 minutes ago, Commonsense said:They are, but capital investment almost always involves a loan at all levels. The training ground gave fans the opportunity to invest if they wished, and it paid them back. It seems to me to have been a sensible way of raising funds.
I think my suggestion was a little more pointed - he seems to think that it would be sensible to invest in a company that is seeking money to pay the wages and the tax bill - which suggests that he really shouldn't make anything but the simplest financial investments!
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Just now, Canary Wundaboy said:I would consider both to be expected costs of running a football club.
Which reinforces the point I made above.
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2 hours ago, TheBaldOne66 said:Is this any different to what they asked fans to do with the training ground? Remember Huckerby, how a local businessman, also a fan, stumped up the money so we could sign him!
1 hour ago, Canary Wundaboy said:People have short memories, it wasn’t that long ago that the club were pleading poverty and asking the fans to pony up money for core facilities and overdue infrastructure improvements.
If you can't tell the difference between being offered the chance to invest in capital development and being asked to invest to pay the tax bill and wages, I'd suggest that you are very careful when making investments!😁
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I like it that as far as I know, I only saw one of them play - it makes me feel young!
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If he is ready, it surely helps us for him to get some competitive time with Chile rather the U21s which must be at a lower level. Helps him to gain match sharpness.
No problem for me.
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4 hours ago, Davidlingfield said:Yes, he started well but has single-handedly created the financial disaster that has required the begging bowl to be thrust out to some random Americans.
Of course, the big losers from that are actually the ex-majority shareholders who have effectively given away their control on the cheap, but is also seen on the pitch with recruitment largely currently being limited to free agent journeymen.
Yes, the facilities are better than pre Webber, but the squad certainly isn’t - of course it may all be a blessing if the random Americans can steer us out of trouble but only time will tell.
Financial disaster?
Have you had a personal preview of the accounts or are you just making this up?
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2 hours ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:For me the only requirement for the role would have been previous success in a similar position at another club. If I’m hiring staff at work I’m wanting people who can hit the ground running not people I have to spend 6 months training.
Well anyone serious about developing a career would never apply for a job that they're already doing at the same level. It would show total lack of ambition!
Therefore the only plausible candidate would be someone from League One or Two and I'm sure that would bring plenty of negative comments too!
This appointment was never going to bring widespread support and frankly, I suspect most people, myself included, don't have a clue about the person speciation.
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1 hour ago, hogesar said:Because it's not turning them into traditional strikers if you ever read the links you post all over here.
He's essentially helping him become a more all-rounded midfielder who can play an attacking role if needed. An untraditional number 10, I guess.
This.
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3 hours ago, Commonsense said:Sorry, but reading this message board, I thought that was what we needed, a rich foreign investor pumping in money, rather than owners who have a long term interest and genuinely care about the club. How could so many be so wrong?
I think that you will find that when you point to the huge string of rich owner failures they will point to Man City + whichever smaller club is doing well at the time. There is a long list of clubs who have been identified as clubs we should emulate currently sitting below us in the league, but evidence seems to have little impact upon their beliefs.
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According to Swiss Ramble, the latest accounts show that he has pumped £135 million into the club since taking it over in 2015 had points deducted for FFP, so you can understand him being piqued by criticism. He is still owed about £63 million and the ground is owned by another one of his companies, not the club.
Perhaps their "divorcees" ought to shut up before they end up like another Derby?
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10 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:Quite - I agree far more with your take on it. Yes they had some crosses that evaded everyone, but that suggests either the cross was poor, the striker was poor or the defence did its job of preventing him from doing so. It in no way makes us lucky not to have conceded.
Plus it is quite likely that the reason that they managed to fashion a crossing opportunity is because they "overloaded" elsewhere, which created the space in the first place! Players can't be in two positions at once!
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1 hour ago, ricardo said:Only young and will learn.
Wagner isn't stupid he knows that Rowe can produce that bit of magic that not all players possess.
Give the boy a chance, he is more than a bit special.
Thanks for the report brilliant as ever 👍
Rowe obviously has great potential but as far as I'm aware is only contracted to 2025 - I hope that this is rectified soon.
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34 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said:Gotta be joking, Brim’s a horrendous place. My cousin lives there and even he doesn’t dare venture out after dark!
I go most years for the Edgebaston test and the centre has always seemed fine to me.
There are places in all big cities where you have to be a bit careful after dark, especially with all the police cuts in the last 10 or 15 years.
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On 26/09/2023 at 14:11, essex canary said:The football authorities are moving towards a financial control of Wages plus Amortisation with the latter being the allocation of transfer fees over seasons.
How would we have done with this measure over recent seasons?
Compared to Burnley we have spent more on Wages in 10 seasons despite them staying in the PL 5 times versus our 0. They have invested more in transfer fees typically a net £15 million per season in cash terms relative to our 0 over the past 8 years.
On average their efficiency and success ratio is greater. The Webbers were happy to gamble to boost Stu's chances elsewhere whilst maintaining their high incomes whilst here. Where has been D&M's restraint and control? Now we are in bailout mode. Quite simple in reality.
I'm not sure that we are in "bailout mode" and tbh, none of us can be until we see the accounts.
Other than that I agree with most of what you say although, I suspect we may have different conclusions. To my mind the comparison with Burnley (and others) demonstrates that "the model" per se is not the cause of instant relegation when we reach the PL: the fact that others have stayed up with lower expenditure is pretty good evidence for this.
If this is accepted, we need to look elsewhere for the cause of our painful and embarrassing PL performance in recent seasons. My belief is that it is a playing style issue: we need to be far more pragmatic, defensive, physical and direct to stay up. If this is correct, the next question would be, "is this a price worth paying?"
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12 hours ago, Petriix said:Last season we had Pukki, Cantwell and Dowell in our squad: just add Buendia and you have the first choice attack from our record points season under Farke. Add Aarons and Omobamidele and we're massively lacking in technical ability.
Of the 5 players you mention, only 2 were regular starters. Pukki was probably "over the hill" + Cantwell and Dowell, whilst talented have produced little to get excited about for some time. Aarons is a miss, as I suggested but Omobamidele couldn't force his way into the first team because he was too unreliable.
We have more options up front, in the midfield, out wide and in defence - I don't think that the squad is "paper thin" and cannot see it is even a value judgement, but simple arithmetic.
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8 hours ago, Petriix said:There are some potential positives signs (Sainz) on the horizon, but the squad is paper thin and we are likely to suffer further injuries which expose our lack of depth as the season progresses.
Perhaps I have been over-dosing on the positivity pills as well, but I really don't get the perception that our squad is paper-thin. I think that our squad is stronger this year than last. The only real downgrade (for Wagner's system) is Max* and we have strengthened in several areas.
* Teemu was past his best last year and not really suited to Wagner's system.
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4 hours ago, Captain Holt said:Are we at the level where 11 professional footballers sticking to a plan set out in-depth over months of work by a manager is a feat worthy of praise? It should be the *absolute* bare minimum.
Not at all. We were off track ("derailed") in our last performance and didn't play to the plan set out by the manager, for which they were rightly slammed. Last night was still a disappointment because we lost but at least we were back on track and played the ay that they have been trained to do.
It is about nuance rather than the "binary wonderful/terrible" that some seem to employ as an analytical strategy.
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8 hours ago, kenfoggo said:We did not concede 6 goals, true. But to say we are back on track, having lost, is delusional. If we win at home against Birmingham then perhaps there might be a glimmer of hope. However, whatever Wagner says post match, pre match or in the programme will be empty words unless the performance this Saturday matches the rhetoric.
I suspect he was referring to sticking to the playing strategy rather than the result. We weren't consistently caught on the break.
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1 hour ago, Davidlingfield said:Except that it won’t as there are no assets left to provide security.
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2 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:Well Ipswich did- and Brentford- and Brighton and all other clubs who are less controlling etc
Brighton and Brentford have rich fans as owners - care to suggest anyone you know who is happy to chip in a few tens of millions a years (if you know any Norwich fans).
I suspect that MA has already spent more than the Ipswich owners - not that I am wholly convinced yet.
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Thanks Ricardo.
TBH, I was encouraged by last night. I though that a fairer result would have been 1-1. Despite another thread saying that we were too open, I thought that we coped pretty well their attacking threat and were only undone by a foolish five minutes at the end of the first half, when the players seemed to lose focus a bit, and a sucker punch at the end when we were throwing caution the wind. I don't think that there will be many teams in the league with Leicester's goal threat.
Up front we had our moments, one created by a great cross from Onel (which doesn't seem to have been mentioned anywhere else that I can see) and for much of the second half we looked to be at least a match for Leicester.
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Thanks Ricardo - great report as ever. I sit in the Snakepit and it definitely looked like a penalty in the first half - certainly the prevailing opinion around us.
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Blackburn Rovers Accounts
in Main Discussion - Norwich City
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Our last non-parachute year was 18-19, and our turnover was over double this from Blackburn (£33.7 million). We could probably afford Blackburn's wages + more player sales.
The "known unknown" is the level of debt after our flirtation with ambition last time we were in the premier league when our spending was well beyond sensible levels - as many on here encourage. This will be revealed when the accounts are published shortly and we will be able to see whether we will be hampered by being over-ambitious previously.