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  1. Posted

    27 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

    City came out after the break and looked bereft of ideas, gave the ball away, couldn’t find a team mate, absolutely terrible, and what did Smith do………..sweet fa, just stood there with his hands in his pockets. Alex Neal or Daniel Farke would be going berserk on the touch line. Come on Smiith let’s have a bit of passion.

    Again, why the need to rewrite history just to have something to whinge about regarding Smith?

    Farke was constantly criticised for his lack of involvement on the touchline and surely the one negative all fans had was his inability to change a game when the play wasn't going our way. No plan B was a constant comment. Now we have a coach who's tried and trying various methods and formations of play- and we get this nonsense OP.

    As a ST holder behind the dugouts I can say Farke did show passion at times but pales in comparison to many managers, and I'd say Smith is certainly as passionate, and much much much more vocal, along with Shakespeare.

    There was a good post saying that fans only see what they want rather than what's actually happening. I agree in this situation that people simply don't want Smith to succeed and therfore are doing all they can to find a negative. When actually we should be celebrating a coach who's not got the star players we lauded last time out, who's bringing in youth and new signings to the team, who's tried different styles (but we have no identity mwah mwah 😭😭) and.... has got us to the top of the league. If Farke was in charge, I guarantee we would not have the bleating about his touchline antics, poor 25mins in second half (when already 2-0 up!!!) and that it was a missed opportunity to push ahead our GD.

    We won 3-0 and are top of the league. Happy days.

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  4. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

    The point I'm making is that this IS a place to vent frustrations and concerns that people have, rather than venting more publicly into the face of our players via social media.

    So again, just think about the weight that your words carry when aiming such remarks about the general posting that occurs here.  You labelled the entire forum as being "pathetic" at times, and your reasoning boils down to others venting with different opinions to yourself.

    Ok fair enough. No, the whole forum is not pathetic. However the overwhelming posts around Smith and his failures in charisma, leadership, tea drinking and fitness were.

    Also, Branston is not a **** and I think you need to take your own advice on the weight your words have. I warrant singling a poster out has fer more of an effect than a group statement.

  5. Posted

    1 hour ago, hogesar said:

    Secondly, Farke's personality was mocked by some of the same fans in his first season. It's not his personality you liked. It was the fact we won two championship titles at a canter playing brilliant football.

    This. Summed up what I've been trying to say.

    Farke was fantastic, and lagely responsible for the best season I've witnessed as a City fan. However Smith is doing his own thing, and deserves praise for what he's trying to do with our football this season. He couldn't sort out the c*** he was given last season (not sure anyone could) but to continue to find fault this season shows some are either not watching or just want to criticise dependent on the latest result(s).

    Farke was treated similarly (though not as bad as the pathetic 😱 tea jokes became) in his first season and was regularly called on to leave. Its sad it all seems to come down to simply immediate results rather than look at the details and reasons behind what's going on. As recently as a week and a half ago, this season went from a write off to a relegation fight according to a poster. Look at the performances, look at the progression, look at the injuries, just look! Patience please!

     

  6. Posted

    10 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

    We waved goodbye to a good man in Farke, with the promise that we'd see improvement and a very definite target to survive in the prem league.

    We ended up bottom of the championship within 8-9 months.

    People are demonstratively upset with those turn of events, and if they come on here to vent then so be it.  I think to be calling them pathetic is a little hypocritical personally.  All of us here, are a collective group who want this club to be as best as it can.  If people start to lose their ****, we dig in, talk it through and come out the other side tougher.

    I'd rather these kind of debates happen in closed forums like this, than spilling out into players social media channels - that's where I start to define pathetic.  So maybe consider the weight of such words?

    I agree with some of that.

    But seriously? You call me a hypocrite?

    Page 1 of this thread - your responses to Branston. That's a whole different world of abuse. It's actually laughable you've given me your definition of pathetic.

    My history is there for all to see. I get frustrated, passionate and can be argumentative. But I have never reached your level of rudeness or expletives aimed directly at another poster.

     

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  8. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    1 hour ago, Petriix said:

    What's 'pathetic' is the need to abuse other posters for daring to hold different opinions. This forum has been at its absolute best on some recent threads with the level of analysis and debate. When people are able to articulate their opposing views with intelligence and courtesy it enables a greater level of understanding.

    I've seen plenty of people (myself included) giving Smith his due credit for starting to get the team playing well and dropping the underperformers.

    Some of us still have (perfectly reasonable) reservations about the tactics. And those who were unhappy about Farke's sacking are entitled to make comparisons, especially when the overriding narrative was to give Smith a transfer window and see how he goes in the Championship. We're still giving him the first 10 games before making our judgement... 

    Reasoned debate is great and there has been some good examples of it of late but the majority of the time (for the last year) has seen Smith derided, often falsely criticised and abused by posters, simply for not being Farke. That's what's pathetic, in my opinion.

    I'm not directly abusing posters, I'm not interested in childish tittle tattle posting back and forth, but I will voice my opinion. I apologise if you were offended but reading so many similar posts from the same posters over the last year, takes its toll. I have attempted to engage in debate and believe Smith has earned some reevaluation with a clearer style and philosophy, some promising signings and a very attractive way of playing, but the conjecture and unreasonable explanations continue (old school, tea drinking, no heart, no charisma etc etc.)

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  9. Posted

    56 minutes ago, Petriix said:

    On the other hand, we've gone from our B team beating their B team 6-0 to what would have been a highly fortunate victory very much against the balance of play.

    It's totally reasonable to look at the comparison between how a Farke team tore them apart and a Smith team struggled. 

    It's also totally reasonable to put FAR FAR more emphasis on the league games when we actually play our preferred 11 and try and get the results we need to reach our ultimate goal for the season. But funnily enough, the majority of posters on this thread didn't give Smith any credit for the wins this past week, or the clear vision and identity that is apparent, the identity that, incredibly, some are still insistent is missing 🤣 they also don't praise the recruitment this summer and how Smith has integrated new signings (not just from a different country, but a different continent) relatively quickly.

    If anything goes well it's in spite of Smith. Any hint of troubles (and narrowly losing a carabao cup game playing our second string is REALLY scraping the barrel of finding something to whinge about) and Smith is a fat, tea drinking, tired old school manager with no charisma.

    This forum really is pathetic at times.

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  10. Posted

    1 hour ago, The Real Buh said:

    …what?

    Neil Adams started well with a fortunate set of fixtures but did at least have the good grace to admit he was beat and resign. Smith won’t. We lose a succession of games he’ll urge us to stay calm while we finish mid table and wait for him to lose to Ipswich.

    And this guy WILL lose to Ipswich, I can see it in his eyes.

    we’ve had a half-hearted strained start to the season. Adams actually did much better if I recall.

    I haven’t flip-flopped on anything. I still want Dean Smith out and I want Webber out. I’m hopeful that a director joining with higher standards for this club will recognise Dean Smith isn’t the man to take us to that next level, having failed at Villa and with us at the premier league.

    everyone’s made fun of Josh sargeant, pretending you haven’t makes your look stupid. He literally missed an open goal and nutmegged himself. What are we supposed to do? 

    Wow too much bu****** on here to go through point by point. But...

    No not everyone made fun of Sargent.

    Using Adams time as any kind of example of comparison is hilarious as it just reminds me that many of the posters now continually criticising Smith were the same that proclaimed we would walk the league under Adams when he had that decent start and beat the binners. Just proves said posters aren't always right 😱

    Failed at Villa? Haha. Go on any Villa forum and see what the overwhelming consensus is (not just the idiots on there of which, like on here, there are numerous.) It's most definitely not that he failed. Also, do any kind of BASIC research to realise he didn't fail, particularly not at championship level.

     

    "Smith inherited a squad that had absolutely no right to be in the play-offs with the way they were playing under Bruce, got us promoted, rebuilt the entire squad and kept us up"

    Yup, massive failure.

     

    cue some random insult about me being a yes man and give him more time etc, yawn 🥱

  11. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    7 hours ago, shefcanary said:

    though why it has taken him to do this and not Smith himself is quite telling.

    I suppose its not surprising to see the positive in the OP turned into yet another negative about Smith.

    So for balance, let's not forget, Farke never did any of this with corners or free kicks, and he had 5 years to sort it out. Other than Vrancics heroics occasionally, how often did we see a successful (or even a well planned) corner or FK? We even persevered with Emi taking them all despite failing far more often than not with the delivery.

    It's almost as if some fans will find fault in Smith no matter what he does 🤔

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  12. Posted

    6 hours ago, TIL 1010 said:

    It appears two swallows make a summer.

    Love it. It's ok for the whinge brigade to be out in force (whether the performances warrant it or not) but a few posters talk POSITIVELY about the latest performances and prospects for the season, and that's unacceptable.

    If 10x more posters can proclaim our mediocrity or relegation scrap after ONE game of the season, I'll happily take my place in team positivity and patience thanks very much. 

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  13. Posted

    It really is sad that so much critisism came (and continues to come) Smith's way simply for not being Farke, and the extremes it went to in the first few games this season (despite us playing well and a definite style emerging) shows how little people know, and were actually watching of the football.

    Smith inherited a useless PL squad, that Farke must have had a say in building and certainly had a major say in getting to play so poorly. Smith made changes to try and get the best out of it (bypass the non existent midfield), playing to the very few strengths we had, and yet that meant we had no 'identity' and were throwing away the messiahs philosophy, as if Farke had the patent on passing slick football, despite Smith's history as a football manager and the way he had teams such as Brentford and Villa playing. Those players were not able to play the way we are now in the PL and get results. As it turned out we weren't good enough full stop, but Smith's way gave some glimmer of hope and but for injuries and poor management of the Covid situation, who knows.

    That we're now seeing Smith's way of playing is very similar, and equally attractive on the eye (without the two players supposedly responsible for our promotion last time) as Farkes is hilarious. Nice to see some giving some due credit, and it's not all rosy now as the season is long and still improvements and consistency needed. But what the team has shown this week is a philosophy, a clear way of playing, a tactical and motivational coach and also a club all pulling in the same direction. All despite the unintelligible ramblings and inpatient blubbing 'support' of many 'fans'. It's all very well having an opinion, please can it be based on actual evidence and basic sense, rather than just the latest result and whether the coach drinks tea out of a mug and is getting a bit podgy.

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  16. Posted

    30 minutes ago, hogesar said:

    I know football fans are notoriously thick but Forest were lucky and most days would have lost that game. They will need to improve significantly. 

    They had a lower xG than West Ham, who will be feeling hard done by but the intelligent ones will realise they didn't deserve to lose and if they continue to play in a similar way will be fine.

    This.

    At least 2 goal line clearances, twice hit the bar and a missed penalty. WH should have won comfortably and could've been a thrashing.

    Fair play to Forest but they won't be that lucky every week.

  17. Posted

    Definitely lucky. WH twice hit the bar and Henderson in great form. Should be 1-1 at best for Forest. They are working hard and as its a very new team, are doing really well. Good luck to them.

    Got to love another excuse to bash the club though 👍

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  19. Posted

    2 hours ago, Greavsy said:

    Which is exactly what Max did, imo, as I stated in my post yesterday. 

    But that simply doesn't happen. Max doesn't kick anything but air as his shin is attacked by the defender and forcibly pushed back and then he's falling to the ground.

    Yes the defender gets the ball but it's a leg breaking tackle if Max wasn't in the process of shooting. It then becomes a reckless tackle endangering the opponent = a red card.

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  20. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

    Aarons then kicked the bottom of his boot

    I don't see this at all.

    Aarons goes to shoot, the ball is gone so Aarons ends up kicking nothing because his leg is being forced back from the dangerous and reckless tackle that results in the defenders studs scraping into his leg.

  22. Posted · Edited by Fiery Zac

    12 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

    I thought this as the time, and still do having seen that video. 

    Aarons shapes for a shot, and defender gets the ball, as Aarons swings his leg to shoot and his leg connects with the underside of the defenders boot. 

    A nasty cut, but not a foul in my view. 

    Swap the players over, and ask yourself would you be saying the same? 

     

    Wow. Not a foul?

    In the laws of the game and in all common sense to protect players health, that is a foul and a red card.

    Completely irrelevant he gets the ball, completely. Could've been a leg breaker and so that sort of tackle cannot be allowed to be seen as acceptable. It's crazy its actually being debated. At least the infuriating VAR would have at least seen sense and have made the ref change his baffling on field decision.

    Swapping the players over, I'd be saying Aaron's was very very lucky to get away with it and shouldve been sent off.

  25. Posted

    2 hours ago, ricardo said:

    The point ive been making for some time. The old road was the correct one, it made us distinctive. This road just leads us back to being like everyone else. An important facet of our identity has been thrown away in a moment of panic.

    Do you believe the old road would have been successful in the PL? Do we as a club have the resources to attract the players of enough quality to keep us up under such a philosophy? We saw flashes of Farkeball working in the PL but too often out fought and out played by better quality.

    I agree that the identity was thrown away (by Farke himself let's not forget) but would the same fans now crying over that style really have not called for Farkes head sooner or later had the results and performances continued to be as embarrassing as those at the beginning of last season? 

    It's very easy to blame Smith for our relegation overall but he didn't set the new way of playing over the summer and he didn't choose not to replace our 2 most influential players from the previous season - Farke seems to escape virtually all blame from this catastrophically ludicrous decision.

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